Best Heather Winchell Podcasts (2025)

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51.5 Go ‘Til No: RECAP from our time with Ekren Miller 36:08

7d ago36:08

36:08

In this recap episode, Heather Winchell and Andy Brennan revisit their conversation with veteran fundraiser Ekren Miller. Discover why fundraising is an invitation—not begging—and how to cultivate donors through his “Four Pillars” framework: Qualification, Cultivation, Solicitation, and Stewardship. Hear creative cultivation ideas (from yard work t…

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51. Borrowing Tools from Big-Org Fundraising with Ekren Miller 1:19:25

14d ago1:19:25

1:19:25

In Episode 51, we ask Dr. Ekren Miller, a major gifts fundraiser, to explore the fundraising principles applicable to personal ministry support. Ekren shares his journey from raising small gifts for overseas work to securing large donations for a university, emphasizing relationship-building, confident asking, and donor stewardship. The episode unp…

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50.5 Goodwin Recap 22:07

21d ago22:07

22:07

If you enjoyed this episode, don’t forget to subscribe, leave a review, and share it with your network. Follow It’s Not About the Money for more insightful discussions on faith-based fundraising and support raising! Get help today! Visit www.provisiofundraising.com Follow along @ its.not.about.the.money.pod . . . . . THANKS FOR LISTENING!…

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50. When Fundraising Isn’t One-Size-Fits-All: Neurodiversity and Sustainable Ministry with Jenilee Goodwin 44:18

28d ago44:18

44:18

Fundraising can be exhausting—but what if it’s more than just a tough season? What if the way your brain works actually impacts how you navigate support raising? In this episode, we sit down with certified neurodiverse coach and veteran cross-cultural worker Jenilee Goodwin to talk about how conditions like ADHD, autism, and sensory processing diff…

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49. Sales ≠ Sleazy: Rethinking the S-Word with Bernie Anderson 1:07:02

1M ago1:07:02

1:07:02

In this episode of It’s Not About the Money, we’re joined by Bernie Anderson—missions leader, podcast host, business consultant, and certified Growability coach. Bernie helps us reframe our ideas around sales and fundraising, showing how sales, when done with integrity and generosity, can become a transformative experience for both the giver and th…

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48. It’s Not Impossible: Reframing Fundraising Through Faith and Formation with Tony Dentman 53:36

1M ago53:36

53:36

“I was probably the wealthiest person in my family when I chose to go into ministry—then I had to go back and ask my family for money.” “If God did it in my life, He can do it in yours.” “If you’re not willing to be faithful, I can’t do much with you. But if you are—I got you.” In this powerful episode, Tony Dentman of Funding Tribe joins hosts Hea…

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47. Fundraising, Fatigue, and the Faith to Keep Going: Dr Mandy on "Is it worth it?" 49:44

2M ago49:44

49:44

In this thought-provoking episode, Dr. Mandy returns to share her ongoing journey in ministry and fundraising. The conversation explores how ministry fundraising transcends mere numbers—it's about personal formation, genuine partnerships, and living out one’s calling. Dr. Mandy recounts her early introduction to support-based ministry, her refreshi…

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46. Dependence Isn’t a Deficit: A Fresh Look at Fundraising with Dr. Jacob Chacko 50:43

2M ago50:43

50:43

"Our support raising isn’t asking for a favor — it’s an invitation to join in Kingdom work." “Greed isn’t about how much money you have — it’s about what you expect money to give you.” What does it really mean to live with an abundance mindset in a culture of scarcity and self-sufficiency? In this episode of It’s Not About the Money, we’re joined b…

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45. Soundtracks and Self-Narratives: Reframing the Fundraising Journey 57:09

2M ago57:09

57:09

“We live at the mercy of our ideas.” – Dallas Willard In this foundational episode of our new series on mental soundtracks in fundraising, we’re joined by the wise and winsome Patty S. If you’ve ever found yourself stuck in patterns of doubt, striving, or self-criticism around fundraising, this episode is for you. We unpack how our internal narrati…

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44.5 RECAP of the Gutierrez's Journey from Resistance to Generosity 27:01

3M ago27:01

27:01

In this episode, we revisit the conversation with Danny & Stephanie Gutierrez to explore their journey from resisting support raising to fully embracing it as a means to bless others. In Episode 44, they share how their mindset shifted from viewing fundraising as an obligation to seeing it as an opportunity for partnership and generosity. Whether y…

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44. From 'Never' to Now: Danny and Stephanie's Fundraising Journey 1:01:43

3M ago1:01:43

1:01:43

"We said we'd never fundraise—never. But God had other plans." "The conversations about money were some of the hardest, but they also made us stronger." In this episode of THANKS FOR DOING THAT, Danny and Stephanie Leigh Gutierrez share their journey of stepping into support-based ministry as a married couple. From wrestling with initial doubts to …

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43.5 RECAP of Preparing for Fundraising Success 25:41

3M ago25:41

25:41

"Fundraising isn’t just a necessary evil. It’s the point where we’re drawn deeper into the body of Christ and into intentional, transformational conversations." "The church needs you as much as the people you're ministering to. This isn’t just about funding—it’s about formation, for you and for the church." In this recap episode, Heather Winchell a…

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43. Coach Aaron Gonyou on Preparing for Fundraising Success 53:50

3M ago53:50

53:50

"God could drop the money in your lap, but instead, He takes you through a process that humbles you, grows your faith, and challenges you to see ministry as a team sport—not an individual one." "Support raising is counter-cultural, but it’s not counter-biblical. It transcends culture, and though it’s awkward and hard, it’s a biblical practice that …

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42.5 (RECAP) Building a Support Base That Lasts: Lessons from 25 Years on the Field with Kenton K. 47:12

4M ago47:12

47:12

“There is no scarcity in heaven. Never has been, never will be. And there should be no scarcity in our thinking as we move through ministry.” “Don’t let your only point of contact be an appeal for money. Let your points of contact be person-driven, not finance-driven.” In this episode of It’s Not About the Money, hosts Heather Winchell and Andy Bre…

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42. Mary Valloni on Building Trust in an age of Skepticism 1:13:00

4M ago1:13:00

1:13:00

"Trust isn’t built overnight—it’s built in the little, consistent moments where we show up authentically." "When you go in for a transaction instead of a relationship, it feels dirty. But fundraising isn’t about money—it’s about partnerships and impact." "We aren’t selling a product—we’re inviting people to be part of the greatest mission of all ti…

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41. Season 3 in Review 51:54

5M ago51:54

51:54

WOW, what a season. We had fantastic stand alone conversations about church partnerships, domestic fundraising, spiritual health, soul care, and so much more. Heather was joined by special co-host Jenn Smyth for a six part mini-series on fundraising in ethnically diverse communities. Andy and Heather briefly review this season's episodes, give some…

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40. Dr. Will Smallwood on 1000 Days Transformed Campaign 1:05:21

8M ago1:05:21

1:05:21

In this episode of "It's Not About the Money," Heather and Andy sit down with Dr. Will Smallwood from Cedarville University. Dr. Smallwood shares the incredible journey of Cedarville's 1000 Days Transformed campaign, which has raised over $158.7 million to date. He discusses his unexpected path to becoming a career fundraiser, the vital role of sto…

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39. (Mini Series EP 6) Beth Smith on Listening and Learning 48:17

9M ago48:17

48:17

Join Heather and co-host Jenn as they conclude their mini-series on the unique considerations of support raising in ethnically diverse communities. In this episode, they are joined by Beth Smith, interim MPD director with BSM in Texas. Beth shares her extensive experience in fundraising within the Baptist Student Ministry and the insights gained fr…

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38. (Mini Series EP 5) Jeremiah and Maysa Vaught 34:47

9M ago34:47

34:47

In this fifth episode of the mini-series, Heather and Jenn are excited to welcome Jeremiah Vaught, who, along with his wife Maysa, has been deeply involved in ministry and church planting in Chicago. Jeremiah shares his journey from the initial days of fundraising to planting a church in one of the most diverse zip codes in the nation. He discusses…

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37. (Mini Series EP4) Dennis and Evangeline Chow 59:06

9M ago59:06

59:06

Join Heather and special co-host Jenn as they continue their mini-series focused on fundraising considerations from ethnically diverse backgrounds. In this episode, they are thrilled to speak with Dennis and Evangeline Chow, who are currently serving in the Philippines. The Chows share their unique journey from college days at Penn State to their i…

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36. (Mini Series EP 3) Chay'vion Carter 47:46

10M ago47:46

47:46

Join Heather and co-host Jenn as they continue their mini-series on fundraising in ethnically diverse communities with special guest Chay'vion Carter. Chay'vion, who has been working with Campus Outreach at the University of North Texas since 2021, shares his unique journey of raising support from a Black church context. From the initial challenges…

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35. (Mini Series EP 2) Beca Acuna 45:40

10M ago45:40

45:40

Join Heather and co-host Jenn as they dive into the unique challenges and opportunities of support raising in ethnically diverse communities with special guest Becca Acuna. Becca, who has been working with Texas BSM in San Antonio for the past five years, shares her journey from nursing to campus ministry, the cultural nuances she navigates in Hisp…

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34. (Mini Series EP 1) Jenn Smyth 41:39

10M ago41:39

41:39

Join Heather and her new co-host, Jen Smith, as they kick off a mini-series focusing on support raising in ethnically diverse communities. Jen shares her unique journey from high school fundraisers to long-term missions in China, and the cultural nuances she navigated within Korean American churches. Together, they explore the generational shifts i…

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33. (Mini Series KICK OFF) The Samuel family: Support Raising in Ethnically Diverse Communities 1:02:22

10M ago1:02:22

1:02:22

Join Heather and Andy as they kick off a new mini-series focusing on support raising in ethnically diverse communities with a compelling conversation featuring Brandon and Cat Samuel from Wycliffe Bible Translators. They delve into the Bridge Program, an initiative aimed at bringing more diverse staff into global missions, and share their unique jo…

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32.5 RECAP with Bo and Jess Bissell 49:58

10M ago49:58

49:58

Heather and Andy are joined in the RECAP by Jess and Bo Bissell, support raising coaches from Pioneers. Jess and Bo share their unique journey from missionaries in Japan to coaching new and seasoned workers in partnership development. They open up about their experiences, the challenges of rejuvenating fundraising efforts, and the importance of spi…

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32. Callie Davis on Spiritually Healthy Fundraising 49:58

11M ago49:58

49:58

In this episode, Heather and Andy are joined by Callie Davis from the Via Generosity team to delve into the crucial aspect of spiritual health in support-based ministry. Callie shares her journey from growing up in a support-raising family to her current role in creating resources for partnership development. The discussion highlights the importanc…

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31.5 RECAP with Dr. Mandy 42:54

11M ago42:54

42:54

In this episode of "It's Not About the Money," Heather and Andy are joined by Dr. Mandy, a newly minted Doctor of Education in Organizational Change and Leadership from the University of Southern California. Together, they recap the insightful conversation with Josh Lindstrom, focusing on themes of endurance, intentional rest, and the nuanced chall…

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31. Pastor Josh Lindstrom on Endurance in Fundraising 51:12

11M ago51:12

51:12

In this episode, Heather and Andy welcome back Pastor Josh Lindstrom, teaching pastor at Woodman Valley Chapel, to discuss the critical theme of endurance in fundraising. Pastor Josh shares insights from his own ministry and the biblical story of Elijah, highlighting the importance of rest, perseverance, and trust in God’s provision. From exploring…

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30.5 RECAP with Danielle Nelson 45:57

11M ago45:57

45:57

In this episode of "It's Not About the Money," Heather and Andy are joined by Danielle Nelson, a seasoned project manager with extensive experience in mobilizing and coaching people in support-based work. Together, they recap the enlightening conversation with Bryn and Christine, who shared their unique perspectives on short-term fundraising from t…

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30. Short Term Panel on all things Short Term Fundraising 40:46

12M ago40:46

40:46

In this episode of "It's Not About the Money," Andy welcomes special guest co-host Sarah Macy, who steps in for Heather. Together, they delve into the intricacies of short-term fundraising with guests Brynn Holtmeyer and Christine Campanella. Brynn, a junior special ed major at Concordia University, and Christine, a seasoned elementary math teacher…

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29.5 RECAP with Bernie Anderson 39:58

12M ago39:58

39:58

In this episode, we recap our insightful conversation with Amy Young, founder of Global Trellis. To help us unpack the profound topics discussed, we are joined by Bernie Anderson from Growability. Bernie brings his extensive experience in business development and cross-cultural work to the table, offering a unique perspective on the challenges and …

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29. Amy Young on Your Humanity in Fundraising 56:20

12M ago56:20

56:20

In this episode, Heather and Andy dive into a profound discussion with Amy Young, founder of Global Trellis and co-founder of Velvet Ashes. Amy shares her extensive experience in support-based ministry, spanning nearly three decades, and her insights into honoring humanity in the fundraising process. From the challenges of maintaining personal well…

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28.5 RECAP with Amy Young 32:27

1y ago32:27

32:27

We are joined by Amy Young of Global Trellis as we recap the Halligan episode and talk about the multifaceted reality of transition and disruption. If you enjoyed this episode, don’t forget to subscribe, leave a review, and share it with your network. Follow It’s Not About the Money for more insightful discussions on faith-based fundraising and sup…

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28. The Halligans on Facing the Unexpected 51:21

1y ago51:21

51:21

When life "throws a curveball," how do we navigate the unexpected challenges that shake the foundation of our plans and partnerships? In this episode, we explore the profound impact of life's unforeseen events on support-based ministry. Join us as we sit down with Seth and Megan Halligan, who share their transformative journey from serving overseas…

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27.5 RECAP with Andy and Heather 31:30

1y ago31:30

31:30

There was a lot to unpack in Carolyn Kellam's episode on domestic fundraising. We've already heard from listeners that it was an impactful and helpful topic to explore! Listen in as Heather and Andy share their biggest takeaways. If you enjoyed this episode, don’t forget to subscribe, leave a review, and share it with your network. Follow It’s Not …

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27. Carolyn Kellam on Domestic Support Raising 50:15

1y ago50:15

50:15

Most support concepts are applicable no matter where you serve, but there can be unique factors when raising support for domestic ministry. We are joined in this episode by Carolyn Kellam of the Navigators. Carolyn currently serves as the Manager of Staff Funding and is responsible for the training for all Nav staff. She also helps lead the IEdge p…

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26.5 RECAP with Michelle Goodman 33:55

1y ago33:55

33:55

We are joined in this episode by Michelle Goodman. Week after week, we are so encouraged to hear people expound on what they heard AND bring additional perspective and wisdom. Michelle did that and brought some gems of her own into this recap. If you enjoyed this episode, don’t forget to subscribe, leave a review, and share it with your network. Fo…

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26. Travis Cottrell on The Importance of Authenticity 48:06

1y ago48:06

48:06

In our media and marketing-driven world, people -- as consumers -- can become quickly disenchanted. In fundraising, we want to strike a balance between being prepared and not "performing." Travis Cottrell joins us in this episode and highlights the importance of authenticity in approaching others and inviting them into partnership. This year, Travi…

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25.5 RECAP with Wes J. 28:40

1y ago28:40

28:40

Life, leadership, and fundraising coach Wes J. joins us for our recap of the conversation with Rebekah C on using your unique strengths in fundraising! If you would like to connect with Wes about coaching, send us a direct message at our instagram (its.not.about.the.money.pod). Take the Strengthsfinder test! Let us know how it plays out in your fun…

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25. CliftonStrengths Coach Rebekah C on Bringing Strengths to Fundraising 57:37

1y ago57:37

57:37

Last season, we took a couple of episodes to explore the Enneagram for insight into our motivations and how we show up uniquely in the world (and in fundraising). Today, we’re turning to another tool meant to help us identify our natural talents and leverage those for our good and the good of those around us – you might be familiar with it -- the S…

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24.5 RECAP with Kyle W. 34:08

1y ago34:08

34:08

Kyle W. joins us in recapping our episode with Mindy Caliguire and builds on the helpful principles Mindy put forward from his own training in care of the soul from Biola's Institute for Spiritual Formation. If you enjoyed this episode, don’t forget to subscribe, leave a review, and share it with your network. Follow It’s Not About the Money for mo…

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24. CEO of Soul Care Mindy Caliguire on Avoiding Burnout 1:07:47

1y ago1:07:47

1:07:47

What does it look like to have a healthy soul? Our guest today wrestled with this question and found answers in the midst of her own season of burnout in ministry and fundraising. Mindy Caliguire offers vision and practical encouragement for you as you persevere in your own ministry and fundraising. Mindy is the co-founder and president of Soul Car…

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23.5 RECAP with Patty S. 34:50

1y ago34:50

34:50

Patty S. (season 2 episode 4) joins us again to recap our conversation with Dr. Jolly Johnson on the Choice City Planner. We explore the many ways this tool helps us be intentional with this one life we are given and talk about it's use more specifically in fundraising. If you enjoyed this episode, don’t forget to subscribe, leave a review, and sha…

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23. Dr. Jolly Johnson on Identifying what Matters 59:12

1y ago59:12

59:12

One of the common refrains we hear in the work of fundraising is, "There just isn't enough time to do it all or to do it well." Our time and attention are precious resources. Our guest today, Dr. Jolly Johnson, found himself -- ironically -- with too much time on his hands and set out to develop a resource to use it well. He created the Choice City…

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22.5 RECAP with First-Time Fundraiser Hannah O. 34:21

1y ago34:21

34:21

Hannah O. joins us and shares passionately and vulnerably about her own disruptions and tensions with family as she has launched into support based ministry. If you enjoyed this episode, don’t forget to subscribe, leave a review, and share it with your network. Follow It’s Not About the Money for more insightful discussions on faith-based fundraisi…

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22. Spencer and Annette Nicholl on "You should get a real job" 59:53

1+ y ago59:53

59:53

Many in the North American church "get it." They have context for support-based work and see their part in it... but many don't. Today's episode is actually in response to a question from a listener. "What do you do when your family isn't supportive, when they tell you that you should get a 'real' job?" Spencer and Annette Nicholl have been support…

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21.5 RECAP with Corrie M. 28:24

1+ y ago28:24

28:24

In this first recap of season 3, Corrie brings a wealth of perspective into our discussion of Drew Remke's episode focused on partnership with the local church. Corrie lived and worked in support based ministry for just shy of a decade before moving back to North America where she currently works in the marketplace as well as serving as a fundraisi…

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21. VP Drew Remke on Partnership with the Local Church 46:01

1+ y ago46:01

46:01

We are kicking off season 3 with a timely discussion on the importance of launching into ministry with the holistic support of a local church - a body of believers that you are committed to and that know you well. Joining us for this discussion is Drew Remke. Drew Remke is the Vice President of Church Partnerships for Pioneers USA. Pioneers is a gl…

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20. 2023 YEAR IN REVIEW 41:30

1+ y ago41:30

41:30

One of our top 3 guests (per downloads!) joins us again in our final episode of 2023 to look back over the conversations we've had this past year and talk about what is still sticking with us as we head into 2024. Fun fact - the P.G. episode WAS number 6. This fact will make sense after listening in:) Towards the end of the episode, we announce our…

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19.5 RECAP with Lauren K. 32:05

1+ y ago32:05

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Lauren K., CEO and co-found of Rebuild, joins us for today's recap with admirable conviction and compelling perspective. If you enjoyed this episode, don’t forget to subscribe, leave a review, and share it with your network. Follow It’s Not About the Money for more insightful discussions on faith-based fundraising and support raising! Get help toda…

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