Welcome to Highly Unlikely with Josh and Jenaye. We're so glad you're joining us, and we're excited to take you into conversations about highly unlikely people, many from highly unlikely places, and now doing some highly unlikely things. We will also dig into topics we're passionate about that lead us to live highly unlikely lives.
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E95: Intentional Parenting (with Bryce & Eden Meyer)
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1:03:35Pastors Josh and Jenaye sit down with Bryce and Eden Meyer for a real, meaningful conversation about parenting. Together, they explore what it looks like to go beyond behavior management and truly connect with our kids' hearts. They share practical insights on building strong relationships through open communication, intentional time, and disciplin…
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E94: Who is My Neighbor? (with Jasmine Tosseth-Smith)
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49:45In this episode, Pastor Jenaye is joined by Jasmine, co-director of Bismarck Global Neighbors, for a heartfelt conversation about how we can support immigrants and refugees in meaningful, lasting ways. Grounded in the biblical call to love our neighbor, this conversation serves as both an invitation to welcome others into what you’re already doing …
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What does it really mean to grow into the man you’re meant to be? In this episode of Highly Unlikely, Pastor Josh unpacks the stages of identity, purpose, and legacy—from childhood roots to midlife revelations. With real talk and biblical wisdom, it’s a call to grow deeper, love better, and leave a lasting impact. https://www.arenamen.org/…
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E92: Hope in the Alaskan Wilderness (with Steve Pavek)
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52:41In this episode, Pastors Josh and Jenaye sit down once again with Steve Pavek, who shares powerful updates about the Hub 1 Initiative in Alaska. Through the Alaska Student Partnership, teachers are being equipped to serve in remote villages—communities facing deep challenges like domestic violence, substance abuse, and isolation. They explore how b…
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E91: Journey Through Infertility and Foster Care (with Jake and Megan Thomas)
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55:42Jake and Megan Thomas join Pastor Jenaye in today’s episode to share their journey through infertility, foster care, and adoption. They discuss how they learned to surrender their plans to God’s timing and encourage believers to step into uncomfortable, vulnerable spaces while trusting His plan. The couple also shares how The Lily Initiative has be…
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E90: Highly Unlikely Gospel (with Mark Testroet)
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40:23Join Pastors Josh and Jenaye as they talk with Mark Testroet, the Chaplain at both the North Dakota State Penitentiary and Missouri River Correctional Center. Hear about the transformative work happening in the lives of residents as they encounter hope and purpose through faith in Jesus. Mark emphasizes how they are seeking something real and authe…
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E89: Give God Your Yes (with Noah VanVoorhis)
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1:05:08Join Pastors Josh and Jenaye as they sit down with Noah VanVoorhis to discuss his journey of stepping out of his comfort zone to serve on Dream Teams at Evangel. Noah shares how serving in Production has provided community for him, given him opportunity to serve with his son, and opened doors to helping in Middle School Services and NextGen Summer …
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E88: Highly Unlikely Gospel at NDSP (with Travis Gatzke)
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58:56In this episode, we talk about a Highly Unlikely way to take the gospel to all nations. Tune in for a powerful conversation with Pastors Josh and Jenaye as Travis Gatzke shares his journey—from his time at Midwest Leadership College to his current role as Prison Outreach Coordinator. Hear stories about Alpha groups, water baptisms, and Evangel’s up…
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E87: Mental Health & Biblical Counseling (with Hailey Jorris, Jenny Gatzke and Pastor Alisha Weston)
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57:11In this episode, Pastors Josh and Jenaye are joined by three licensed counselors to discuss the role biblical counseling can play in supporting mental, emotional and spiritual health. They explore counseling not just as a reaction to crises, but as a proactive step for everyone—similar to regular car maintenance. The conversation highlights how fai…
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E86: Encore (with Bill & Karen Schneider)
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45:17Pastor Josh hosts a discussion with Bill and Karen Schneider, retirees who challenge the conventional view of retirement as only a time of enjoyment and leisure. They emphasize that while they may have stepped away from their jobs, they continue to serve God by establishing a clear purpose in retirement and redefining the retired lives around servi…
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E85: Holy Habits (with Pastor Noah Herrin)
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51:07Pastor Josh welcomes Pastor Noah, who leads Way Church in Nashville. Noah discusses his book "Holy Habits," emphasizing that while encounters with Jesus can lead to freedom, developing spiritual habits is essential for maintaining that freedom. Noah also highlights the importance of creating safe spaces for vulnerability, particularly among the you…
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In this final episode of 2024, Pastors Josh and Jenaye share practical plans and rhythms to start your new year strong! They encourage listeners to reflect on the past year, not just focusing on successes, but also acknowledging and processing the challenges faced. And to ultimately ask for God’s wisdom and guidance as we step into 2025 to fulfill …
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Pastors Josh and Jenaye continue to discuss navigating family dynamics during the holidays in Part 2 of Tension at the Table. In this episode they address the tensions that can arise when new relationships are added, such as marriages or children. Listeners are encouraged to establish boundaries and find win-win solutions for family gatherings. Ten…
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In Part 1 of Tension at the Table, Pastors Josh and Jenaye explore the challenges that often arise during family gatherings, particularly around the holidays. The conversation centers on the importance of spiritual maturity when navigating complex family dynamics, including the shifting roles between parents and adult children. Key principles and r…
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In Part 2 of "Highly Unlikely Holidays," Pastors Josh and Jenaye encourage listeners to create meaningful family traditions that foster gratitude and generosity, rather than getting caught up in consumerism. They highlight how to get into the Christmas spirit specificially at Evangel with special events like "Christmas at the Movies" series and Chr…
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In this episode of "Highly Unlikely Holidays," Pastors Josh and Jenaye emphasize the importance of prioritizing peace and generosity during the busy holiday season. They share personal experiences of balancing family commitments, financial planning, and the challenge of maintaining a Christ-centered focus amidst cultural pressures. Listeners are en…
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In this episode Pastors Josh and Jenaye engage in a fun conversation about asking meaningful questions to deepen connections with loved ones. They share insights into their communication styles, particularly how they support each other during overwhelming times, and the importance of understanding what each partner needs. They conclude by encouragi…
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E78: Hope for Life (with Ricardo Pierre Louis)
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54:54Pastor Josh interviews Ricardo, a teacher and soccer coach in Bismarck, who shares his remarkable journey from Haiti to the United States. Ricardo shares his inspiring journey from using makeshift soccer balls in Haiti to playing on the national team, ultimately leading to establishing the organization Lespwa Lavi, which means "Hope for Life." The …
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In this episode, Pastors Josh and Jenaye engage in light-hearted conversation starters to share more about themselves while discussing relevant topics. They emphasize the importance of curiosity in relationships, highlighting how asking good questions can deepen connections. Both share their personal insights on household management, parenting, and…
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Pastor Josh and Cory Phillips, Evangel's Garrison Campus Pastor, reflect on the journey of planting the Garrison campus and the significant changes ahead as Pastor Cory and his family prepare to transition into RV Missions. They discuss the challenges and blessings of their time in Garrison, emphasizing the importance of open hands and trusting God…
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E74: Finding Freedom in Forgiveness
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1:06:10By Josh & Jenaye Skjoldal
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E73: When It Doesn't Seem to Make Sense (with Holly and Dillon Wilson)
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1:13:44Listen in as Pastors Josh and Jenaye talk with Holly and Dillon Wilson. Holly (also known as Hollyn) and Dillon share stories about playing college football, competing on "American Idol", leading a young adult ministry, walking away from a successful music career, meeting and getting married in only three months, and allowing God to use their creat…
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E72: The Value of Suffering (with Granger Smith)
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50:37After 24 years touring as an award-winning, platinum-selling, country music singer-songwriter, Granger Smith left the music business to pursue a future in ministry. Listen in as Granger shares about the events that led to that decision and how God has shown His goodness and faithfulness through deep suffering and loss. Learn more about Granger's st…
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Join Pastors Josh and Jenaye in a special episode about prayer and fasting as Evangel prepares for 21 Days of Prayer and Fasting starting on August 1. Listen in as they talk about the practical and spiritual principles and benefits of incorporating regular prayer and fasting as part of following Jesus. Visit goevangel.org/media to find Pastor Josh'…
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E70: Sharing Coffee and Jesus in Estonia (with Jordy Nuñez)
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51:46Jordy Nuñez grew up in Miami before moving to the midwest, meeting his wife, and joining staff at Trinity Bible College in Ellendale, ND. Join Pastors Josh and Jenaye and listen in as Jordy shares the story of how he and his family felt God calling them to share the love and hope of Jesus in Estonia by starting a coffee shop. For more information o…
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E69: A Deeper Look at the Old Testament (MDWK Q&A)
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1:05:42This episode of Highly Unlikely is a follow-up to Evangel's MDWK event which featured an extended and in-depth teaching of the Old Testament. Listen in as Pastors Josh, Nate Chapman and Dylan Werner address and discuss some of the questions that were submitted live during MDWK event. This video from BibleProject was used to open MDWK: https://youtu…
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E68: A Deeper Look at the Old Testament (MDWK Part 2)
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58:57This episode of Highly Unlikely is the second part of a live recording from Evangel's MDWK event and features an extended and in-depth teaching of the Old Testament. Pastors Josh and Jenaye, Nate Chapman, Dylan Werner, and Davion Logan-Brown talk through how the Old Testament tells the story of our wandering and God's redemption plan through Jesus.…
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E67: A Deeper Look at the Old Testament (MDWK Part 1)
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58:14This episode of Highly Unlikely was recorded live at Evangel's MDWK event and features an extended and in-depth teaching of the Old Testament. Pastors Josh and Jenaye, Nate Chapman, Dylan Werner, and Davion Logan-Brown talk through how the Old Testament tells the story of our wandering and God's redemption plan through Jesus. This video from BibleP…
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E66: Waiting For a Miracle (with Tabi Deraas)
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1:06:01Tabi Deraas joins Pastors Josh and Jenaye in today's episode. Tabi is a nurse who started Parking Lot Prayer Warriors during the height of the COVID pandemic. Listen in as Tabi shares more about that experience, her own personal faith journey of seeking physical healing, and how she experienced beauty through the waiting.…
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E65: Working With Your Spouse: A Closer Look
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51:20Listen in as Pastors Josh and Jenaye share some of the joys and challenges of working together! In this episode, they also talk more in depth about the difference between their two roles (Lead Pastor and Co-Lead Pastor) and the role of women in ministry.* *For more information about Evangel's beliefs on this subject, check out this message from Pas…
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E64: Flipping the Script: Interviewing Pastors Josh and Jenaye (with guest host Jordan Pope)
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57:24In this very special episode, Pastors Josh and Jenaye are interviewed by guest host (and good friend!), Jordan Pope. Listen in as Jordan asks questions about how the Skjoldals ended up leading Evangel, life experiences that helped prepare them for these roles, who is speaking into their lives, and more.…
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E63: Live Panel from Unique Conference 2023 (with Susie Larson, Hollyn, and Liz Turner)
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54:32This episode of Highly Unlikely was recorded live at Unique Conference 2023 and features a panel discussion with Pastors Josh and Jenaye, Pastor Alisha Weston, Susie Larson, Hollyn, and Liz Turner. This lively group shares honest wisdom, insight, and expereience in response to a wide variety of questions submitted by conference attenders. ADULT CON…
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Join Pastors Josh and Jenaye for an open conversation and listen in as they share some of their personal convictions in areas that don't necessarily have "right" or "wrong" answers that apply the same to everyone. This episode covers topics like physical boundaries in dating, friendships with the opposite sex, and alcohol.…
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E61: The Disciple-Making Doctor (with Jeff Rundio)
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45:25Dr. Jeff Rundio joins Pastors Josh and Jenaye in today's episode. Jeff is an ER doctor and serves on the board of Evangel. Listen in as Jeff talks about how his personal experience with Jesus changed how he views his patients, his family, and his purpose in life.By Josh & Jenaye Skjoldal
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E60: The Importance of Authentic Relationships
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46:16In this episode, Pastors Josh and Jenaye talk about why the people we surround ourselves with really matter and how our communities can influence our thinking, our decisions, and our faith. Listen in as they discuss the importance of developing authentic relationships with people who will encourage and challenge us as we follow Jesus.…
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E59: Q& A with Pastors Josh and Jenaye
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1:06:20Pastors Josh and Jenaye are kicking off a new rhythm for the Highly Unlikely podcast! Today's episode is a continuation and a deeper dive of the Q&A from the last episode. Pastors Josh and Jenaye respond to questions from listeners about boundaries and relationships with things like social media, finances, building healthy community, food and body …
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S4 | E15: Healthy Boundaries and the Holidays
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56:03With the holidays (and family time!) coming up, Pastors Josh and Jenaye welcome Pastor Alisha Weston to talk through some questions from listeners about boundaries. Pastor Alisha has a Master's in Professional Counseling and talks through how to have healthy boundaries with loved ones who have different values and beliefs, enmeshment in relationshi…
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S4 | E14: Infertility and Losing a Child (with Ryne + Rachel Jungling)
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49:17Ryne Jungling is the Area Director for Fellowship of Christian Athletes (FCA). In this episode, he and his wife, Rachel, share about their seven-year journey with infertility, eventually having twins, and then dealing with the death of one of them. Ryne and Rachel share deep insight about guarding your heart against bitterness, the reality of God's…
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S4 | E13: The Stages of Parenting (with Galen Woodward)
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55:54Galen Woodward is a husband, father, grandfather, and pastor who authored the book "A Matter of Time: Positioning Your Children to Change Their World One Moment at a Time" and has over 40 years of ministry experience. Listen in as Pastors Josh and Jenaye talk with him about the various stages of parenting, the importance of being intentional, how t…
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S4 | E12: Healing + Restoration after Sexual Addiction (with Mark + Kitty Burke)
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54:33After being married for 38 years, Mark and Kitty Burke faced a brokeneness in their marriage that they were afraid could never mend. In this episode, Pastors Josh and Jenaye visit with Mark and Kitty about how they worked through the shame and condemnation of sexual addiction, found true freedom, learned to trust again, and experienced forgiveness …
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S4 | E11: Foster Care, Adoption, and Biblical Justice (with Paul Hurckman)
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49:50Paul Hurckman joins a conversation with Pastors Josh and Jenaye about the journey of foster care to adoption. Paul lives in north Minneapolis, is the father of a multi-racial family with two biological children and three adopted children, and is the Executive Director of Venture. Listen in as Paul talks about the importance of gaining a biblical un…
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S4 | E10: Intentional Education (with Carmen Banta, Eden Meyer, and Dorie Brendel)
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52:54Join Pastor Jenaye for a beautiful and honest conversation with three other moms who have all made different choices about how to educate their children. Carmen Banta (private school mom), Eden Meyer (homeschool mom), and Dorie Brendel (public school mom) share how they made specific education decisions for their children, some of the stigmas that …
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S4 | E9: Family Business (with Bob, Lorie, and Jordan Pope)
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50:25In this episode, Pastors Josh and Jenaye talk with Bob and Lorie Pope and their son, Jordan Pope. Bob and Lorie started Nexus Innovations, a high level strategic consulting company, and Jordan joined the famiy business a few year later. Listen in as the Popes talk through what it takes to build a healthy team culture and keep family relationships h…
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S4 | E8: Finding Your Special Place with Jesus (with Kitty Burke)
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51:39Listen in as Pastors Josh and Jenaye talk with Kitty Burke about her journey to develop a deeper longing and a more intentional time with the Lord. Kitty is a wife, mother, and grandmother who has walked with the Lord for many years and through many trials. In this episode, Kitty shares about how she is learning to slow down, abide with the Lord, a…
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S4 | E7: Raising a Child with a Disability (with Lance and Anna Anderson)
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53:08When Lance and Anna Anderson's son was born, they were unaware of the challenges that were ahead. As they began raising a child with severe disabilities, God gave them deep peace about who He had made Ben to be. Listen in as Lance and Anna share openly and honestly about the joys and difficulties of this journey. If you have a heart for or a person…
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S4 | E6: The Next Generation and Jesus (with Micah and Stephanie MacDonald)
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49:15Micah and Stephanie MacDonald have a deep passion to reach people for Jesus. Five years ago, they gave up their full-time jobs to start Mac Ministries and have given their lives to sharing the love of Jesus with young people all over the world. Micah is also the author of "Death To Life". To order the book or find more info, visit mac-ministries.co…
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S4 | E5: A Healthy View of Money (with Andrew and Carmen Banta)
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54:51Andrew and Carmen Banta are seasoned leaders of "Financial Peace University" and have an incredible personal story regarding finances and debt. In this episode, Pastors Josh and Jenaye talk with Andrew and Carmen about how to have a heathy relationship with money and finances.By Josh & Jenaye Skjoldal
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S4 | E4: Dating Well ("The Family Handbook" Deep Dive Part 2)
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1:13:09Listen in as Pastors Josh and Jenaye go in-depth about the complexities of dating and how to navigate the dating process in a way that honors Jesus. This episode is a deep-dive continuation from "The Family Handbook (That You Never Received)" series.By Josh & Jenaye Skjoldal
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S4 | E3: Fighting Fair ("The Family Handbook" Deep Dive Part I)
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54:35Listen in as Pastors Josh and Jenaye go in-depth about how to have healthy confict and repair ruptures in relationships. This episode is a deep-dive continuation from the message they preached in "The Family Handbook (That You Never Received)" series. If you missed that message, listen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gIlXyQ6sFk&t=2469s…
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