Welcome to "Recruiting is No Joke" with your host, Joel Lalgee – the realest recruiter. Get ready for raw, no-BS conversations that delve into the latest trends in the recruiting space. Joel holds nothing back, providing a fresh and entertaining take on the world of recruitment. With no filter, Joel gives you an inside look at the industry like never before. If you're craving to be part of the conversation with leaders in the field, this podcast is your ticket. Discover the ins and outs of t ...
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Welcome to the Digital Recruiter Podcast, where we dive deep into the recruiting world and share valuable insights and strategies for success in the digital landscape. Join our host, Clark Willcox, as he interviews industry experts, thought leaders, experienced recruiters, and agency owners to uncover what’s working, what’s not, and what’s on the horizon in the ever-evolving field of recruitment. Whether you’re a seasoned recruiter or just starting out, this podcast is your go-to resource fo ...
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Have you ever wondered why only a few people get past the final round interview and land the job offer? Join us in the ring as our host, AJ Eckstein, speaks with RECRUITERS at top companies in multiple industries to learn the secrets why certain applicants get "knocked out" and others are still standing after the final round. Learn more at www.thefinalround.com
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The Ramped Podcast is built for early-career professionals. Join hosts Manoj Jonna and Danny Leonard as they sit down with industry heavyweights to uncover what it takes to launch a successful career in sales, technology, finance, and many other industries. This podcast is presented by Ramped. Ramped is on a mission to revolutionize the job search by providing democratized access to both jobs and education on how to thrive in the workplace. Thank you for tuning in!
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#69- How Joel Lalgee Uses Content and Conversation to Win
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21:00Episode Summary Live from the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit in Las Vegas, Clark Wilcox sits down with Joel Lalgee, LinkedIn video content powerhouse and longtime agency recruiter for a high-energy conversation on what’s working in recruiting right now. They dive into the real impact of AI, automation, and content, not as threats, but as tools fo…
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Episode 103: The Recruiting Secret Weapon: Meet-and-Greets, Not Just Job Posts with Stephanie Murray
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36:26In this episode of Recruiting is No Joke, host Joel Lalgee welcomes Stephanie Murray, Senior Director of Talent at Brightside Health, for her first-ever podcast appearance. With nearly two decades in healthcare recruiting, Stephanie gets real about the state of the industry, the mental health hiring crisis, and what it takes to build a high-functio…
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#72- Anna Morgan on Building Brands, Events, and Real Recruiting Relationships
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26:03EPISODE SUMMARY Recorded live at ERE Las Vegas, Clark Wilcox sits down with Anna Morgan, founder of Career BFF and the powerhouse behind the Evolve conference to talk recruiting, branding, and building real relationships in a tech-saturated world. Anna shares how she blends leadership, wellness, and breathwork into the talent conversation, and why …
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Episode 102: Breaking Into Construction: Career Pivots & Recruiting in Hard-Hat Industries with Kala Kapahalou
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44:05Is construction the next big thing in recruiting? In the 100th episode of Recruiting is No Joke, host Joel Lalgee sits down with Kala Kapahalou, Director of Talent Acquisition at W.E. O’Neil, to talk about a rarely spotlighted industry with massive opportunity: construction. From ditching culinary school dreams to leading TA at a top national contr…
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#71- How Justin Hayward is Making Care Affordable Without Insurance
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19:52EPISODE SUMMARY Recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit, Clark connects with Justin Hayward, founder and COO of VURV Health, to explore how his company is rethinking access to healthcare for small businesses, gig workers, and uninsured Americans. Justin breaks down how VURV delivers corporate-level healthcare pricing like 24/7 virtual…
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Episode 101: How Emotional Intelligence is Changing the Hiring Game with Napoleon "Napo" Rumteen
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46:26Did you know that emotional intelligence (EQ) can be a better predictor of job success than traditional hard skills? In this episode of Recruiting is No Joke, host Joel Lalgee sits down with Napoleon "Napo" Rumteen, founder and CEO of Interactive EQ, to talk about how emotional intelligence and soft skills are reshaping how we assess talent. If you…
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#70 - Chris Cabe on Managing Remote Teams and Staying Human in a Tech-Heavy Market
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19:58EPISODE SUMMARY Live from the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit in Las Vegas, Clark sits down with Chris Cabe, Recruiting Team Lead at Capstone IT, for a thoughtful conversation about leadership, remote team management, and what it means to be a strategic talent advisor in today’s hiring landscape. Chris shares lessons from transitioning from intern…
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Episode 100: How to Find Real Talent in a Sea of AI with Erin Turnmeyer
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36:51AI is rewriting resumes. Candidates are deepfaking interviews. Job postings go live—and within hours? Thousands of applications flood in. So how does anyone actually hire the right person anymore? In this episode of Recruiting is No Joke, Joel Lalgee sits down with someone who’s not just talking about the chaos—she’s living it. Meet Erin Turnmeyer,…
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#68- Jacob Price on Smart Recruiting, Automation, and the Long Game
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22:38Episode Summary In this episode recorded live from the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit in Las Vegas, Clark Wilcox is joined by Jacob Price, Head of Customer Success at pin.com. They dive deep into what pin.com is really solving for: giving recruiters a smarter, AI-driven top-of-funnel tool that surfaces candidates faster, automates outreach across…
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Episode 99: AI Won’t Replace You—But Ignoring It Might: Real Talk with Logan Marsh
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52:48When you’re applying to jobs in 2025, the world feels a little upside down. AI is everywhere. Remote work is under debate. And recruiters? They’re being asked to do more with less—again. So, how do we make sense of it all? In this episode of Recruiting is No Joke, Joel Lalgee sits down with Logan Marsh, Head of Talent Acquisition at Calendly, to un…
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#67- Ross Mayfield on Storytelling, AI, and Standing Out in a Noisy Market
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21:01Episode Summary Live from the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit in Las Vegas, Clark Wilcox sits down with copywriter and longtime collaborator Ross Mayfield to unpack what’s really happening in the recruiting and content space. From AI buzz to timeless fundamentals, they reflect on the key conversations happening at the conference and what they mean…
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Episode 98: Inside Talent Strategy, Retention, and Employer Expectations with Matt Lowney
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42:38Let’s be honest: recruiting is rarely simple—and in high-turnover, high-volume environments, it’s downright relentless. But what if we stopped overcomplicating it and focused on what really matters: clear expectations, streamlined systems, and actually respecting people’s time? In this episode of Recruiting is No Joke, Joel Lalgee sits down with Ma…
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Episode 97: Hiring Smarter, Not Harder: Real Talk on Recruiting Challenges with Trisha Degg
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46:54How many times have you opened that dreaded email—“We’ve decided to move forward with someone else”? Was it even written by a real person? An AI bot, maybe? Rejection stings, but silence stings more. So here’s the real question: do candidates deserve better? And are hiring teams truly prepared to give it? In this episode of Recruiting is No Joke, J…
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#66- Screening Candidates 24/7 with AI with Sahil Seth
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30:08Episode Summary In this episode of the Digital Recruiter Podcast, Clark sits down with Sahil Seth, CEO and co-founder of HirePluto, a voice AI copilot that helps recruiters screen candidates 24/7, so you’re not stuck playing catch-up Monday morning. Sahil shares how the platform handles outreach, follow-ups, and full AI-powered phone screens, deliv…
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Episode 96: Candidate Experience Is Broken, Here’s How to Fix It with Cailean Bailey of Design Pickle
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46:18What’s really happening behind the scenes when you hit “apply” on a job posting? Does candidate experience actually impact business results, or is it just a feel-good metric? Today’s episode will make you rethink how hiring really works, whether you’re a recruiter or a job seeker. Joel Lalgee sits down with Cailean Bailey, Head of Global Talent Acq…
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#65- The Keys to building a 12 Million Dollar Agency with Jeremy Jenson
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1:01:11Episode Summary In this episode of the Digital Recruiter Podcast, Clark sits down with Jeremy Jenson, the founder and CEO of Encore Search Partners. Jeremy shares how he built a high performing executive search firm that now brings in over twelve million dollars a year in revenue. With a team of more than forty employees and a focus on direct hire …
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Episode 95: Recruiting in a Hypergrowth Era, Tackling AI Hiring Fraud, and How Real Networking Wins Jobs with Glenn Lindley
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45:13Ever wondered how recruiters actually land interviews in today’s brutal market? Or what truly makes someone stand out when applying? This episode with Glenn Lindley is packed with raw, honest advice for recruiters and job seekers navigating a hiring world full of ghosted applications, AI-driven fraud, and overwhelming competition. Glenn shares why …
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Episode 94: Scaling Talent Experience with AI, Reinventing Onboarding, and Mastering Interview Training with Sarika Lamont
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47:50What does it really take to build a remote-first culture that actually works — not just one that’s an afterthought? How can AI become your secret weapon without losing the human touch in HR and recruiting? And what does “real candidate experience” even mean today? This week, Joel Lalgee sits down with Sarika Lamont, VP of People and Culture at Vidy…
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#64- How Isaac Bowen Turned LinkedIn Into His Most Reliable BD Channel
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1:04:50Episode Summary In this episode of the Digital Recruiter Podcast, Clark is joined by Isaac Bowen, the founder of Benchmark Search Group. Isaac shares how he built a thriving solo recruiting practice focused on the construction industry, placing top-tier talent across Northern Colorado and Las Vegas. With over a decade of experience and a deep respe…
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#63- Reimagining the Recruiter Marketplace with Darren Koontz
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59:55Episode Summary In this episode of the Digital Recruiter Podcast, Clark sits down once again with agency leader and recruiting innovator Darren Koontz, marking him as the first-ever two-time guest on the show. And for good reason. Together, they dig into the evolving challenges of today’s recruitment landscape, from broken split models to the burno…
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#62- The Importance of In Person Meetups with ERE's Director of Content & Marketing Joshua Jones
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51:42Episode Summary In this episode of The Digital Recruiter Podcast, we sit down with Joshua Jones, Director of Content Marketing & Development at ERE, to talk about what the best talent acquisition leaders are doing to stay ahead—and why in-person learning and real community still matter in a digital-first world. Joshua shares his personal journey fr…
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Episode 93: AI vs. Humanity: The Future of Recruitment in Cybersecurity with Anna Taylor
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44:19What if the key to unlocking the future of recruitment lies not in cutting-edge technology, but in the timeless power of human connection? Could AI, with all its promise, actually be widening the gap between recruiters and the candidates they seek? And in a world where side hustles are on the rise and trust is harder to earn, how can recruiters and…
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#61- The Importance Branding, SEO & Websites with Steve Gipson
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58:31Episode Summary In this episode of The Digital Recruiter Podcast, we sit down with Steve Gipson, Director of Sales Operations at Recruiters Websites, to unpack the critical role of digital marketing, SEO, and LinkedIn strategy in modern recruiting. Steve shares his journey from growing up in a family of recruiters to leading a firm that has helped …
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Episode 92: Bootcamps: Can They Really Launch Your Tech Career with Daniel Odegaard
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50:40Can bootcamps really transform your tech career? You’ve seen the bold claims—“Land a six-figure tech job in just 12 weeks!” Sounds like a dream, but is it too good to be true? With bootcamps becoming a popular shortcut into tech, it’s time to ask: do they really work, or are they just another overhyped trend? In this episode of Recruiting is No Jok…
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#60- From Athletic Director to Top Biller with LinkedIn Branding with Ben Cottingham
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57:52Episode Summary In this episode of The Digital Recruiter Podcast, we sit down with Ben Cottingham, Search Practice Lead at FireSeeds, to dive deep into his journey from high school athletic director to a top-performing recruiter in the AEC (Architecture, Engineering, and Construction) industry. Ben shares his unique career transition story, the les…
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Episode 91: How Can Recruitment Thrive in a Tech-Driven World While Maintaining Human Connection with Ginnette Harvey
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42:21In this episode of Recruiting is No Joke, host Joel Lalgee sits down with Ginette Harvey, a seasoned talent acquisition expert with nearly two decades in the industry. Ginette shares her journey from unexpectedly falling into recruitment to leading a multi-million dollar business, launching her own diversity consultancy, and now building a global b…
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#59- Stop Selling, Start Attracting: How Recruiters Can Build a Personal Brand That Brings Clients to You
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41:58Episode Summary Most recruiters are struggling with business development because no one knows who they are. In this episode of the Digital Recruiter Podcast, Clark Wilcox sits down with Kelli Schutrop, CEO of Thoughtful Resound, to talk about the power of thought leadership, content marketing, and authentic sales strategies in recruiting. Kelli sha…
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Episode 90: Recruitment’s Dark Secret: The Truth About Ghost Jobs & AI
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43:04Have you ever applied for the perfect job, only to realize it never really existed? What if the job market isn’t just competitive—but haunted? Across job boards and career sites, ghost jobs linger—positions that were never meant to be filled or were quietly abandoned by companies. But job seekers aren’t the only ones being deceived. Fake candidate …
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Episode 89: The Silent Takeover: Is AI Killing Human Connection in Hiring?
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45:54Have you ever wondered if the increasing reliance on AI in hiring is slowly eroding the very human touch that makes recruitment so personal? In this episode of Recruiting is No Joke, Joel Lalgee sits down with Jessica Begley, COO of Very, to explore key topics such as recruitment trends, employee engagement, and the role of AI in the workforce. Jes…
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#58- Scaling, Selling (2x) & Recruiting Burn Out with Belinda Kerr
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1:05:58Episode Summary Most recruitment founders are stuck on a hamster wheel—working harder, not smarter. In this episode of the Digital Recruiter Podcast, Clark Wilcox sits down with Belinda Kerr, founder of Recruitment Garage and host of The Tech Savvy Recruiter Podcast, to break down why so many agency owners struggle to scale. With two successful exi…
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Episode 88: The Evolution of Recruitment: From Rolodexes to AI with Matt Pietsch
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44:57A job seeker submits their application. They wait. And wait. But there’s no call, no email—just silence. What they don’t know is that their fate was sealed in milliseconds, judged by AI-driven algorithms they’ll never see, for reasons they’ll never understand. Are we witnessing a revolution that will elevate recruitment to new heights? Or are we on…
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#57- The Mindset Shift That Separates Top Billers from Burnouts with Kate O'Neill
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1:05:01Episode Summary Alright folks, welcome back to The Digital Recruiter Podcast! I'm your host, Clark Willcox, and today, we’ve got a killer episode lined up. I’m sitting down with Kate O’Neill, founder of Job Slinger Academy, to talk about what really makes recruiters successful—beyond just KPIs and cold calls. Kate’s journey into recruitment wasn’t …
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Episode 87: The Greatest Disconnect: Corporate Profits vs. Employee Satisfaction
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46:41Recent Gallup findings show employee engagement is at its lowest in a decade, even worse than during the pandemic. In this thought-provoking episode of Recruiting is No Joke, host Joel Lalgee sits down with Josh Drean, co-author of "Employment is Dead: How Disruptive Technologies are Revolutionizing the Way We Work." Together, they dive deep into t…
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Episode 86: Recruiting Top Talent in Government & Defense Tech with Tommy Weinert of Mount Indie
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44:59Have you ever wondered what it takes to land a job in GovTech or defense tech? In this season-opening episode of Recruiting is No Joke host Joel Lalgee sits down with Tommy Weinert, recruitment lead and founder of Mount Indie, a dynamic agency specializing in government and defense tech recruiting. Tommy shares his unique journey into the world of …
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#56- Poker Pro, Media Mogul, Recruiter: Joe Sebok Always goes All In
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1:05:34Episode Summary In this episode of the Digital Recruiter Podcast, Clark Willcox sits down with former professional poker player turned recruiter, Joe Sebok, to talk about his wild career journey. Joe was part of the poker boom in the 2000s, playing on televised World Series of Poker tables, running his own media company, and even building an early …
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#55- Crelate's Kortney Harmon Discusses the Importance of Recruiting Systems & Marketing
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1:02:28Episode Summary In this episode of the Digital Recruiter Podcast, I sit down with Crelate’s Kortney Harmon to break down the operational chaos in recruiting agencies and why so many firms are stuck in a cycle of inefficiency. From "shadow processes" that drain productivity to high-billing recruiters being promoted into leadership without training, …
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#54- People Over Process: How Doug Burris Helps Startups Build Teams That Drive Success
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1:09:37Episode Summary In this episode of the Digital Recruiter Podcast, Clark Wilcox interviews Doug Burris, founder of DBI 2 Consulting, a talent acquisition consultancy for startups and growth-stage companies. Doug shares his journey from growing up around recruiting to building a career rooted in helping businesses scale effectively. With over 30 year…
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#53- Blending Tradition and Innovation: Denise Chaffin on the Future of Recruiting
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56:23Episode Summary In this episode of the Digital Recruiter Podcast, Clark Wilcox interviews Denise Chaffin, President of Top Source Talent and host of the Talking TA podcast. With over 30 years of experience in recruiting, Denise shares her fascinating journey, from starting in the industry with cold-calling and physical directories to adopting moder…
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#52- Hitting $700,000 in Year 1 through Faith & Work with Julia Arpag
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41:12Episode Summary In this episode, Clark Wilcox interviews Julia Arpag, CEO of Aligned Recruitment, about her journey from corporate recruitment to launching her own agency after being laid off during maternity leave. Julia, a mother of four with years of industry experience, shares how she reached $700,000 in revenue within her first year by focusin…
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#51- The Importance of Change Readiness for Recruiting Agencies with Amy Yackowski
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56:41Episode Summary In this episode, Clark Wilcox interviews Amy Yackowski, founder of Painted Porch Strategies, to explore change readiness, particularly in high-stakes organizational transformations. Amy, with over 20 years in HR, staffing, and tech implementation, shares her insights on “Phase Zero,” a concept she champions to help organizations pre…
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#50 - AI, Automation & Recruiting: Julian D'Angelo on Balancing Tech with Human Connection
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1:08:29Episode Summary In this episode, Clark Wilcox speaks with Julian D’Angelo, co-founder and CEO of Talin.ai, a cutting-edge automation tool designed for recruiters. Julian shares his unique journey from growth marketing in SaaS to building a recruitment tech company without any prior recruitment experience. He explains how his background in scaling p…
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Episode 85: Why Return-to-Office Policies Are Failing: Dell’s Latest Misstep and Empathy in Layoffs
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23:58Is the return-to-office trend finally losing steam? In this week’s episode, Joel Lalgee tackles a growing corporate misstep as companies like Dell struggle with flawed return-to-office policies that penalize parents and strain employee well-being. You’ll also hear a rare, heartwarming layoff story—yes, you read that right! Joel highlights how empat…
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#49- How Tim Gandee Revitalized his Agency with the Digital Recruiter System
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48:09Episode Summary In this episode, Clark Wilcox sits down with Tim Gandee, founder and executive recruiter of Packaging Recruiter Pros, to discuss Tim's journey in the recruitment industry and how he rebuilt his business after hitting a major roadblock. After over 25 years of experience in recruiting and background screening, Tim found himself at a s…
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Episode 84: Why Job Seekers Struggle in 2024: Networking Tips, Market Realities, and What Economists Keep Getting Wrong with Joel Lalgee
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25:08Are you a job seeker trying to find your way in today’s tricky job market? Let’s be real—networking can feel like the magic key to unlocking career opportunities, right? But with so many people competing for the same roles, what challenges are you bumping into? And how has remote work changed the game for us all? In this episode of Recruiting is No…
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#48- Hiring with AI and Human Touch with Scott Morris
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59:10Episode Summary In this episode, Clark Wilcox interviews Scott Morris, founder of Propulsion.ai, an AI-powered tool designed to help recruiters and hiring managers streamline the job description process. Scott shares his background in HR and talent management, having spent 25 years in the industry, including 20 years as a Chief People Officer. His …
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Episode 83: Talent Acquisition in 2025 and Beyond with Amy Cropper, Asud Anderson, and Brian Fink - Live from RecFest USA 2024 Part 2
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53:03Ready to dive deep into recruitment strategies and tech innovations that are shaping talent acquisition? In this special episode recorded live at RecFest USA, Joel Lalgee sits down with Amy Cropper from TriCentis, Asud Anderson from Equinix, and Brian Fink from McAfee. You’ll hear unfiltered insights on how these leaders are using AI to revolutioni…
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#47- Building of an ATS: How Manan Shah built Recruiterflow for recruiters
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52:58Episode Summary In this episode, Clark Willcox interviews Manan Shah, CEO and co-founder of Recruiter Flow, an ATS platform designed for recruitment agencies. Manan shares how his journey into recruitment was an accidental shift from his original background in engineering and AI analytics. After building his first startup, he realized there was no …
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Episode 82: The Future of Employer Branding and Recruitment with Maria Katris, Tannum Sullivan, and Celinda Appleby - Live from RecFest USA 2024 Part 1
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54:40Did you know that your employer brand could be the game-changer in attracting top talent today? In the latest episode of Recruiting is No Joke, host Joel Lalgee dives into the exciting world of employer branding with insights from industry pros like Maria Katris (Built In), Tannum Sullivan(Golden Hippo), and Celinda Appleby (Visa). Broadcasting liv…
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#46- Building A Brand as a Recruiter with Andrew Lewis
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58:57Episode Summary In this episode of the podcast, Clark Wilcox interviews Andrew Lewis, a seasoned recruiter and content creator who grew to 40,000 followers on LinkedIn. Andrew shares insights into his professional journey, starting with his unexpected entry into recruiting through Aerotek after pursuing a degree in exercise physiology. He candidly …
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Episode 81: Job Hunting Struggles and Market Realities: Breaking Down the Numbers with Joel Lalgee
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24:29Are we truly witnessing job growth, or is it just another statistical illusion? The U.S. August jobs report claims 142,000 new positions and a dip in unemployment to 4.2%, but can we really trust these figures? Is the much-anticipated September surge on the horizon, or simply wishful thinking? And why are recruiter job postings climbing when so man…
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