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Inside Strategic Coach is a practical resource for entrepreneurs, or anyone with a growth mindset. Hosts Dan Sullivan and Shannon Waller share breakthrough insights, educational success stories, and insider know-how, gained from working with thousands of successful business owners, worldwide.
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Out of Focus

Shannon Stewart

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From chasing perfection to discovering grace — this is my story. I’m Shannon Stewart — runner-up on America’s Next Top Model, Miss Ohio USA, and a woman who once tried to earn love through performance. Out of Focus is a podcast for anyone who’s ever felt disqualified, disappointed, or too far gone. We talk about identity, performance-based faith, the weight of shame, and the grace that meets us in the mess. This is for the ones who silently wonder: “Does my story still matter?” It does. Even ...
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She had one foot in Hollywood and one foot in church—until God asked her to choose. In this honest and hope-filled episode of Out of Focus, host Shannon Stewart sits down with Brittany Brower (America’s Next Top Model) to share the story the cameras never showed — one of fame, identity, and the long road from nightlife to surrender. Brittany opens …
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In this special episode, Shannon Waller sits down with Program Coach Chad Johnson to explore his entrepreneurial journey, what he’s learned along the way, and how he helps Strategic Coach® members grow bigger, simpler, and more rewarding businesses. Here’s some of what you’ll learn in this episode: Why many of Chad’s early entrepreneurial ventures …
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“That tiny shift—from got to get—is what helped my friend Steve move from obligation to opportunity and from bitterness to betterness.” “Letters look small, but they shape legacies. This is the quiet power that transforms experience into wisdom, and wisdom into Positive Generational Impact™.” “Things turn out best for the people who make the best o…
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No one is too far gone for the redeeming love of Jesus. On this episode of Out of Focus, Shannon Stewart sits down with Jamie Lee, whose testimony is a powerful reminder that God still rescues, restores, and redeems. Jamie opens up about his journey through hidden sexual addiction and shame, and how it nearly destroyed his marriage—until Jesus met …
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What you complain about, you create more of. Are you unknowingly shrinking your prefrontal cortex? The world doesn't need more people pointing out what's broken. It needs people who are wired to see what's possible. “What’s one small shift in my self-talk that would train my brain toward gratitude, courage, and better choices today?” What is one th…
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Some seasons of Thanksgiving feel full… others feel fragile. This episode speaks to both. In this warm and heartfelt Thanksgiving conversation, Shannon sits down with her husband, Pastor Mike Lee — a leader who spent years shepherding one of the largest churches in America and who has also walked through seasons of deep pain, quiet rebuilding, and …
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Isolation is more than just uncomfortable—it distorts your thinking and drains your creativity. In this episode, Dan Sullivan and Shannon Waller open up about the risks of going it alone as an entrepreneur and why strong relationships make all the difference. Listen now to learn smart, actionable ways to reconnect, recharge, and keep yourself movin…
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"Purpose rarely reveals itself until you’re already in motion." - Lee Brower People spend years waiting for clarity before taking action. Waiting for certainty. Waiting for their “why” to magically appear. But purpose is not discovered at the dock. Purpose is revealed on the water. You can’t trim your sails when you’re tied to the pier. You have to…
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In this powerful and redemptive episode of Out of Focus, host Shannon Stewart welcomes Joy Lee, the co-founder of Barn 45, whose extraordinary journey from deep brokenness to divine restoration will move every listener to tears. This episode is a reminder that no one is beyond the reach of God’s mercy—and that even the messiest parts of our story c…
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“People may forget what you said, but they’ll never forget how you made them feel.” And how we make people feel is almost always the result of one small choice. “You can’t do much about the length of your life, but you can do something about its width and depth.” - Jeffrey R. Holland "The fastest way to be liked is to like first." - Lee Brower "Jud…
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Trigger Warning: This episode contains discussion of abuse and trauma. Listener discretion is advised. If you or someone you know is in danger, contact local authorities. In the U.S., call the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 1-800-799-SAFE (7233) or visit thehotline.org. What if the only thing standing between you and death… was the name of J…
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Do you ever wish difficult emotions would just disappear? In this episode, Dan Sullivan and Shannon Waller reveal why every feeling, especially the bothersome kind, is actually a valuable resource for entrepreneurial growth. Discover how turning frustration into clarity and action can lead to your next breakthrough, and learn the thinking tools tha…
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In the midst of the World Series, the fiercest competitors became teammates in a moment of compassion. "Seek opportunities to show you care. The smallest gestures often make the biggest difference.” — John Wooden Where in my life could I let gratitude ripple, instead of needing to be right? "Contempt divides. Gratitude connects. When gratitude move…
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You may know Annie Dixon as a gifted Christian artist and former worship leader, but what you might not know is the journey behind her voice — one marked by heartbreak, hidden seasons, and a surprising shift in God’s calling. In this episode of Out of Focus, Shannon Stewart sits down with Annie for a raw and redemptive conversation about what happe…
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She went from the cover of Playboy to the cover of Today’s Christian Woman. Rachel Martin’s story is proof that no one is too far gone for God’s grace. At 22 years old, Rachel Martin thought she was chasing her dreams. What started as modeling opportunities quickly led to posing for Playboy, traveling the world, and living a lifestyle that looked g…
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What if ambition isn’t something you’re born with, but a capability you can keep growing? In this episode, Dan Sullivan and Shannon Waller explore why ambition is the single master capability for entrepreneurs and how to nurture it. Learn why talking about ambition is difficult, how to grow it continually, and why community and capability are the t…
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What if the more we chase happiness... the faster it runs away? The Horizon Time Map™. Follow the instructions in this video, and you will tap into a source of meaningfulness and wisdom that will bring you Enduring Joy. “Happiness cannot be pursued; it must ensue… as the unintended side effect of one’s dedication to a cause greater than oneself.” -…
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On this episode of Out of Focus with Shannon Stewart, Lauren Burns continues her story with one of the most daring rescues you’ll ever hear. “She tapped on the bus window… and I froze.” In Part 2, Lauren shares how ex-military rescuers, a praying mom, and the hand of God came together in a miraculous mission that set her free. But the rescue was ju…
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On this episode of Out of Focus with Shannon Stewart, Lauren Burns shares how, at just 7 years old, she thought she was going trick-or-treating—but instead, her father drove her to the airport and flew her to Jordan. In Part 1 of this gripping testimony, Lauren reveals: Her experience being taken overseas as a child The confusion of navigating a ne…
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Are you thriving or just arriving? In this episode, Shannon Waller and Program Coach Lee Brower explore the lifelong mindset that keeps entrepreneurs in motion long after the initial motivation fades. Discover practical ways to make growth and gratitude central to your business, family, and life—plus the powerful impact of asking the right question…
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In this episode of Out of Focus, Shannon Stewart and Mike Lee explore what it means to stand firm in God’s unchanging truth in a culture that constantly shifts. Together, they discuss: · Why God’s Word never changes · How compromise can sneak into our lives · The dangers of redefining truth to fit culture · The freedom and peace that come from livi…
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“We don’t see things as they are, we see them as we are.” — Anaïs Nin “Tell me and I forget, teach me and I remember, involve me and I learn.” — Benjamin Franklin “Between stimulus and response, there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom.” — Viktor Frankl When we judge too qu…
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At just 23, Destry Henson built a thriving real estate company with multiple locations and dozens of employees. From the outside, he had it all—success, money, influence. But inside, he was empty. When the market collapsed, his life spiraled into addiction, drug dealing, and eventually prison—locked in a cell 23 hours a day. In this raw and honest …
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Do you feel alone navigating the entrepreneurial journey, even in a room full of peers? This episode uncovers the power of a shared language, showing how entrepreneurs elevate their growth, tackle obstacles, and celebrate wins together. Discover how Strategic Coach’s thinking tools turn isolation into collaboration, making progress possible for eve…
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One small shift you can make this week to change the tone of your family, business, and/or community. ‘Losers assemble in small groups and complain about the coaches and other players. Winners assemble as a team and find ways to win.’ - Bill Parcels Remember, "We rise when lifting others." Each time we pause before reacting, we stack one more posit…
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Marriage isn’t perfect—but God’s grace is. In this episode of Out of Focus, Shannon Stewart sits down with her husband, Pastor Mike Lee, for an honest, lighthearted, and deeply encouraging conversation about marriage, ministry, and faith. You’ll hear the surprising story of why Mike once said he would never pastor again—and how God changed his hear…
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Does divorce mean you’re always living in adultery? Many Christians wrestle with Matthew 5:31–32 and wonder if they’ve been disqualified forever. In this episode of Out of Focus, Shannon Stewart takes a deep look at what Jesus really meant. She unpacks the culture, the context, and the heart of God—and by the end, many listeners may breathe a sigh …
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Do you see ambition as a fixed trait or an ever-expanding capability? In this episode, Dan Sullivan reframes ambition as the platform for all growth. Discover why ambition expands with every capability you build, how it empowers collaboration, and why this mindset leads to greater innovation, freedom, and lasting entrepreneurial success. Here’s som…
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“Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.” — Martin Luther King Jr. “You don’t have to wait for the rainbow to enjoy the rain.” — Dieter F. Uchtdorf“ "Love is the ‘why’ of the leaders that can bring America back together, and of all of us in our families and communities.” — Arthu…
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When Catherine Lewis lost her husband to COVID, her world was turned upside down. Though she already knew Jesus, grief left her angry, questioning, and crying out to God in pain. In this powerful and unfiltered episode of Out of Focus, Shannon Stewart sits down with Catherine to talk through her journey of loss, faith, and hope. Catherine opens her…
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Burnout doesn’t just happen overnight. Whether in ministry, marriage, parenting, or your career, it’s a slow fade—one that can leave you drained, distant, and dangerously close to collapse. In this special episode of Out of Focus, Shannon sits down with her husband, Mike Lee, to talk about the often-overlooked warning signs of burnout and how to fi…
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If you’re an entrepreneur, you’ve taken complete responsibility for your financial welfare, choosing to make a living based on what makes you unique. When entrepreneurs get frustrated and start focusing on what isn’t working, it means they’ve strayed from their uniqueness. In this episode, Dan Sullivan and Shannon Waller explain how to recognize wh…
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We have God-given rights which bring with them obligations, which, when properly honored, become opportunities. An indigenous elder of Cherokee descent, Stan Rushworth, reminded us of the difference between a Western settler mindset of "I have rights" and an indigenous mindset of "I have obligations." Instead of thinking, 'My rights entitle me,' wh…
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Affairs don’t happen overnight. They begin with a drift—a slow fade most people never see coming. In this episode of Out of Focus, Shannon Stewart—former America’s Next Top Model runner-up and Miss Ohio USA—opens up about her own experience with drift, sin, and the redeeming grace of Jesus. She shares how small cracks in marriage, emotional disconn…
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Do you think your business must always depend on you? In this episode, Shannon Waller and Program Coach Gina Pellegrini reveal how empowering your team and building a business that runs without you creates true entrepreneurial freedom. Learn why letting go, focusing on your strengths, and shifting your mindset lead not only to business growth but t…
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