Ignorance of the law is no excuse! That’s true for a traffic stop, and it’s true if you want to participate in whatever’s left of American democracy. If the events since the 2016 election taught us anything, it’s that tuning out is not an option. Legal journalists Liz Dye and Andrew Torrez break down the week’s most important courtroom stories, so you can keep on top of this crazy news cycle. Whether it’s Texas giving two middle fingers to the Supreme Court, or Donald Trump in all the courts ...
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Ep 137 — Trump’s Bad Week In All The Courts
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1:09:19This week Trump got his ass kicked in courts no one’s ever heard of! From tariffs to immigration, Harvard to WilmerHale, it’s been a week of losing bigly. Andrew and Liz will break it down and explain what’s next. Links: Harvard College v. Department of Health and Human Services [Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69921…
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Ep 136 — Trump Announces Plan To Break Law. Gets Immediately Enjoined. Again.
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1:00:22President Trump’s genius plan to announce that he’s about to violate the First Amendment — and then do it! — runs into the judicial buzzsaw as two federal courts restrain his attacks on Harvard and the law firm Jenner & Block. And his campaign’s lawsuit against Iowa pollster Ann Selzer continues to be a humiliating series of self-owns. But SCOTUS h…
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Ep 135 — Deadpool Teaches Civ Pro & Church And State Are Still Separate (For Now!)
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57:37It’s been another wild week of injunctions, executive orders, and just plain insanity from the Trump administration. Then, we’ll let Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni teach us about civil procedure. And for a deep dive, we discuss a surprising recusal from Justice Barrett that preserves what’s left of the separation of church and state. Links: How Tr…
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Ep 134 — Everybody Hates Sam (and ChatGPT)
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1:08:38The Supreme Court does one good thing on immigration, which made Sam Alito BIG MAD. And although the administration has been stymied (for now) in its efforts to rendition detainees out of the country with no notice, the Supreme Court did allow the Trump administration to end Temporary Protected Status for hundreds of thousands of Venezuelans. Then,…
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Ep 133 — The Supreme Court is LAWLESS (feat. Leah Litman)
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1:01:06Today, Liz and Andrew interview Prof. Leah Litman about her book Lawless: How the Supreme Court Runs on Conservative Grievance, Fringe Theories, and Bad Vibes. And, as if to prove the point, the Supreme Court today entertained absolutely nonsense arguments in the birthright citizenship cases about how district courts can’t issue the kind of injunct…
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Ep 132 — For My Friends, A Plane. For My Enemies, The Law.
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1:01:18Meta thinks that if you steal tens of millions of books, the value of each individual theft rounds down to zero. Is that the law? (No.) Also, the Qatari Royal family wants to give Donald Trump a half-billion-dollar plane and make the US government pay to renovate it. Turns out, that hasn’t been legal for more than two hundred years, but who’s count…
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Ep 131 — Trial Judges Know What’s Up
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1:02:50While SCOTUS is MIA, trial judges across the country are stepping up. The full Circuit Court in DC leaps in to save Voice of America from the May hell panel hearing emergency appeals. A judge in Maryland orders the government to facilitate the return of a man wrongly deported to the Salvadoran gulag. No, not Kilmar Abrego Garcia — another one! In N…
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Ep 130 — The Justice Department Is Borked
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1:01:53On today’s episode, we break down how Radio Free Europe just might be the key to preserving the separation of powers in America. We talk the Tucker Act and all of the pretextual, vapid, and/or just plain wrong arguments coming out of Trump’s Department of Justice. Perkins Coie wins their case in front of Our Favorite Beryl, a dingus is trying to su…
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Ep 129 — No, We Are Not At War With Venezuela
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53:08Well, it’s finally happened. A federal judge has finally ruled that we are not being invaded by Venezuela and so the president can’t just shout “ALIEN ENEMIES ACT” as an excuse to kidnap people and send them to a torture gulag in El Salvador. And it was a Trump appointee who did it! Also, Mike Lindell is somehow still here. Links: Conservative Judg…
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Ep 128 — Trump Plan Impress Judges By Perpwalking One Of Their Colleagues Backfires Bigly
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56:22Judges across the country are calling BS on the Trump administration’s lies in court. But the government has come up with a genius plan to impress the judiciary by perpwalking a Wisconsin judge out of her own courthouse. If that doesn’t work, they’ll try contaminated milk. Links: STRENGTHENING AND UNLEASHING AMERICA’S LAW ENFORCEMENT TO PURSUE CRIM…
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Ep 127 — You get a TRO! And you get a TRO! Everyone gets a TRO!
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1:01:13After burning down its credibility with every judge in the country, the Trump administration finds itself slapped with injunctions in every courtroom. Coincidence? Plus, the Department of Homeland Security discovers one weird trick to get around court orders barring deportations. And it is … to stand back and let the Defense Department do it for th…
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Ep 126 — SCOTUS Decides Maybe There Is Something In The Constitution About Due Process After All
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55:13The Trump administration spent the weekend trying hard to rendition immigrants to foreign gulags. But Supreme Court took some baby steps this weekend toward maybe possibly doing their damn jobs and ensuring that the rule of law survives. And in the biggest surprise since the stock market dropping like a rock on news of crippling tariffs on China, P…
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Ep 125 — Trial Judges Stand Up As SCOTUS Cowers
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59:16Chief Justice Roberts and the howler monkeys rolled over and played dead. But lower court judges understand the assignment, including Fourth Circuit Judge Harvie Wilkinson, a conservative icon. He read Trump — and implicitly the Supreme Court — for filth. But will it be enough? Liz and Andrew discuss the latest developments in the Salvadoran rendit…
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Ep 124 — So Much For SCOTUS’s Brilliant Plan To Head Off That Judicial Crisis
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1:00:08If Chief Justice Roberts thought he was going to protect the judiciary by throwing trial judges under the bus, he was spectacularly mistaken. The case of Kilmar Abrego Garcia is hurtling toward contempt proceedings, with the government in open defiance of the court’s order to un-kidnap him. And meanwhile, Attorney General Pam Bondi is running the J…
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Ep 123 — SCOTUS Will Protect Due Process. A Little Bit. If It Has To.
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48:40The Supreme Court had two big immigration rulings this week on deportees to the Salvadoran gulag prison: One terrible and one … marginally okay. Meanwhile at the White House, Tariff Man is running amok! Luckily, he extorted hundreds of millions of dollars worth of big firm billable hours to defend the government. But not from Susman Godfrey, the ta…
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Ep 122 — Hang Together or Hang Separately (feat. Ken White)
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1:05:11Liz and Andrew sit down with fellow legal podcaster Ken White, AKA “Popehat,” to discuss the Trump administration’s attack on law firms. Who’s fighting? Who’s folding? And who’s f—ed? Plus an update on the case of the Maryland man deported to a torture prison in El Salvador, and the legal effort to get him home. And for subscribers: The DC Circuit …
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Ep 121 — Trump’s Tariff Math … It’s Dumber Than You Think
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1:05:46Why does the President of the United States not know what tariffs are, why does he want to crash the world economy, and can he do any of it? We answer as many of those questions as we can. Come for phi times epsilon times m sub i, stay for the Trading With the Enemy Act of 1917. Plus! Judge James Boasberg in D.C. is NOT HAPPY the administration flo…
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Ep 120 — All The President’s Restraining Orders
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56:43Time to round up the latest in lawsuits against the Trump administration. The trans military ban is blocked. Renditioning Venezuelans to El Salvador without due process is blocked. The shutdown of the CFPB is blocked. The shutdown of the US Inst of Peace … not blocked. Yet! Liz and Andrew run down a bunch of the Trump cases and explain why it seems…
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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Trump hand-picked his national security team to troll the libs, and boy did he get us good. From Pete Hegseth to Tulsi Gabbard to John Ratcliffe, each pick seemed more incompetent than the last. But are they also criminals? We break down all the criminal, civil, and record-keeping issues in Signalgate. Also: we…
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It’s another week in paradise with the Trump administration trying to burn down the government. First we’ll talk about the attack on law firms and judges, then we’ve got a breakdown of the newest executive order on immigration silos. You know when they try to hide crazy sh*t under the most boring, generic label ever. It’s that! Plus subscribers get…
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Ep 117 — DOGE Destroys Another Agency As DOJ Courts Contempt (Ft. Aaron Reichlin-Melnick)
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1:01:58Musk’s fash-coders take out the US Institute for Peace. Mahmoud Khalil’s case gets transferred to New Jersey. And the DOJ is daring the court to find it in contempt in the case of the kidnapped Venezuelans. Plus, we have the second half of our interview with immigration expert Aaron Reichlin-Melnick. Links: JGG v. Trump (DC) docket (removal under t…
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Ep 116 — DOJ Courts Contempt In Immigration Case (feat. Aaron Reichlin-Melnick)
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1:03:27Today, we’ve got an all-immigration show. We break down J.G.G. v. Trump, the lawsuit seeking to block Trump’s effort to summarily deport Venezuelan nationals under a 227-year-old law left over from the Alien and Sedition Acts. Then, we have Part One of our interview with Aaron Reichlin-Melnick, Senior Fellow at the American Immigration Council. Lin…
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Ep 115 — The Rightwing’s War On NYT v. Sullivan (Ft David Enrich)
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1:07:39New York Times financial editor David Enrich joins us to discuss his new book, Murder the Truth, about the history of defamation litigation and the right wing’s plan to gut the Sullivan standard to make it easier for politicians to bankrupt journalists for saying mean, true things Links: Murder the Truth https://www.harpercollins.com/products/murde…
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Ep 114 — After Stealing Congress’s Spending Power, Trump Is Back For Advice And Consent
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56:39It’s another week where the DOGE bros are trying to burn down the government, and another week where the courts are trying to stop it. For our main story, we focus on the Trump administration’s crazy shenanigans at the United States Africa Development Corp. Trump may have tried to fire Senate-confirmed principal officers by email… to an email addre…
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Ep 113 — Hey, DOJ, Some Idiot Is Signing Your Name On Pleadings
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1:03:06Today’s episode is another roundup of how trial judges are playing whack-a-mole with the Trump administration, and how all of it fits in with Trump’s plan to usurp Congress’s power to reshape the country in his image. Plus, we’ve got some crazy stories featuring the Interim US Attorney for DC trying to strongarm Georgetown University, a blast from …
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The Supreme Court is still sitting on its (tiny) hands, but trial judges are holding strong against the Trump administration’s assault on the rule of law. We’ll talk about the pushback to Trump’s anti-trans executive orders, his assault on the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, and the effort to ensure that the Dear Leader can fire watchdogs at …
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Ep 111 — Let the Sanctions Rain Down
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1:01:13The Trump administration is now openly defying court orders as multiple trial court judges seek to rein in the government’s illegal conduct. Are sanctions the solution? In at least one case, we won’t know until Chief Justice Roberts releases the “administrative hold” he imposed to consider Trump’s latest meritless request for help from the Supreme …
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The Trump administration has been sued by everyone and their mother, and we’re here to cover it all. From the First Amendment violations to the illegal terminations, we’ve got you covered. Plus, we’ve got an update in the Eric Adams case. Links: AP v. Budowich https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69662918/associated-press-v-budowich Philadelphia Ye…
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Ep 109 — Trump Demands VIP Pass To SCOTUS
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56:18It’s been another wild week as the Trump administration took some time off from breaking all the laws to break the rules of civil procedure. Will the Supreme Court let them get away with it? Links: AIDS VACCINE ADVOCACY COALITION v. UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF STATE https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69627654/aids-vaccine-advocacy-coalition-v-uni…
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Ep 108 — Trump Demands Immunity From Rules of Civil Procedure
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58:58We follow up on the Thursday Night Massacre, as Acting Deputy Attorney General Emil Bove finally got someone to file the paperwork to dismiss the case against New York Mayor Eric Adams. And we do a deep dive into Dellinger v. Bessent, as the Trump administration asks the Supreme Court to remind everyone that the laws don’t actually apply to Donald …
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Trump’s personal lawyers are turning the DOJ into a protection racket, dropping bribery charges against NYC Mayor Eric Adams after he agreed to violate the City’s immigration laws. But they can’t find any lawyer in the Justice Department to implement their corrupt decree. At least seven prosecutors have been fired or quit. But will anyone in Americ…
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Donald Trump got bored during the Super Bowl, and now apparently pennies are illegal. Also, as everything Trump torches the entire executive branch, trial judges aim their garden hoses at the flames to save what they can. Today we’ll talk about as many cases as we can cram into an hour. Come for the DOGE take over of Treasury, stay for the Project …
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Ep 105 — The Week Everyone Sued The Trump Administration
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55:46Donald Trump’s blitzkrieg of executive orders is running into a million lawsuits. And Elon Musk’s inability to keep his mouth shut isn’t helping. We’ll discuss the avalanche of lawsuits by labor unions, non-profits, FBI agents, and anonymous federal employees, along with the judiciary’s response. Links: 44 USC § 3501 Note https://www.law.cornell.ed…
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Ep 104 — Muskrats Invade Federal Agencies
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1:05:48Elon Musk has invaded Washington. He has set loose a pack of feral teenage code monkeys with a god complex inside every federal agency, promising to do for Washington what he did for Twitter. What could possibly go wrong? Oh, and Musk also has a plan to “rightsize” the government by waving unenforceable contracts at federal employees to induce them…
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Ep 103 — Trump Executive Orders Wind Up In All The Courts
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56:11Trump issued dozens of imperial edicts — oh, sorry, executive orders. Many of them are wildly illegal, mostly are deeply cruel, and all are being challenged in court. We’ll discuss the pending injunctions on his birthright citizenship order and the “pause” on government spending so that he can redline the federal budget and delete all the “woke.” L…
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Ep 102 — Trump Steals The Budget (Ft. Bobby Kogan)
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1:04:45Everyone knows that Congress has the power of the purse. What this administration presupposes is … maybe they don’t??? We’ll talk about Trump’s decision to steal budgeting power from Congress in violation of both the Constitution and the Impoundment Control Act with Office of Management and Budget Alum Bobby Kogan. Links: Bobby Kogan https://www.am…
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Ep 101 — Executive Orders: Birthright Citizenship and Disappearing Trans People From Public Life
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58:50We’re breaking down two of the vilest executive orders Trump signed on his first day in office. First up, he’s attacking trans people every way he can, and the crueler, the better. How does this interact with the Supreme Court’s holding in Bostock? And Trump ignored 125 years of precedent to declare birthright citizenship illegal. One federal judge…
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Ep 100 — Immigration Under Trump (ft. Dan Kowalski)
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52:48Trump has vowed to deport millions of undocumented immigrants and close the border. Today’s guest, Dan Kowalski, practiced immigration law for 38 years and writes extensively on the subject. We’ll break down what to expect and how to fight back. Links: Involuntary Departure, by Dan Kowalski https://dankowalski.substack.com/ American Council on Educ…
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Ep 99 — Half A Special Counsel Report Is Like Half A Democracy
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1:04:54As we prepare for the disaster, we break down Volume One of the Special Counsel Report, and discuss the brazen hackery behind Judge Cannon’s effort to bury Volume Two. And Rudy settles with Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss. Is that good or bad news? Links: SMITH FINAL REPORT Vol. 1 https://www.justice.gov/storage/Report-of-Special-Counsel-Smith-Volume-1…
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Ep 98 — Aileen Cannon, Alex Jones, Arkansas
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57:10Judge Aileen Cannon is popping off, the Alex Jones bankruptcy continues to be crazy, and judges in Arkansas are going to war with each other. Plus, as always, we’ll check in with our pal Rudy. Links: Alex Jones - TX Plaintiffs settlement https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txsb.459750/gov.uscourts.txsb.459750.1011.0.pdf McKesson v.…
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Ep 97 — Trump Loses, and Loses, and … Wins?
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48:55Trump narrowly loses his bid at SCOTUS to stave off his sentencing in New York. And the 11th Circuit denies his bid to bury the Special Counsel report. But the case is now back in front of Judge Aileen Cannon, so opportunities for f*ckery abound! Links: Judge Cannon Manages To Out-Crazy Judge Kacsmaryk https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/judge-cannon-…
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Ep 96 — Trump Demands Dismissal Of NY Case For President-Elect Immunity
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56:54Trump is losing his mind at the prospect of being sentenced Friday for his 34 felony business accounts. Now he’s demanding that the case be stayed based on president-elect immunity, something his lawyers Todd Blanche and Emil Bove made up yesterday. And, as always, Rudy Giuliani is wilding out in court. Links: Please Keep Shit Talking Judges https:…
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Ep 95 — The Blake Lively/Justin Baldoni Defamation/Harassment Suits
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1:04:40Blake Lively is suing Justin Baldoni. Justin Baldoni is suing the New York Times. The New York Times is suing … nobody. Yet. We’ll untangle this f-tussle, and for subscribers, we’ll break down Rudy Giuliani’s wild ride to contempt of court. Links: Paxton NCAA Trollsuit https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/sites/default/files/images/press/NCAA%20DTP…
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Ep 94 — What To Expect When You’re Expecting An Orange Toddler President … AGAIN (ft. Evan Hurst)
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1:12:38We lived through it once, and we’ll do it again. Liz and Andrew talk with Wonkette Senior Editor Evan Hurst about the changing media landscape as we prepare for inauguration. Links: The Moral High Ground https://evanhurst.substack.com/ Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChao…
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Ep 93 — Rudy Giuliani Is Wilding Out, And Polio Is Ready For A Comeback (ft. Andrew Fleischman)
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1:03:25Rudy Giuliani’s wilding out, RFK Jr wants to bring back polio, and the Georgia Court of appeals just set fire to the last remnants of the Trump election interference case. Links: Freeman v. Giuliani [Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69015293/freeman-v-giuliani/?order_by=desc GA Court of Appeals Willis Order https://ef…
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Ep 92 — Republicans Finally Found Someone To Blame For J6, And It Is Liz Cheney
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52:25Republicans in Congress are suggesting that the FBI should LOCK HER UP Liz Cheney, and Donald Trump thinks that’s a great idea. But can he do that? We’ll discuss. Plus, a Georgia appeals court has disqualified Fulton County DA Fani Willis and her entire office from prosecuting Donald Trump, likely dooming the entire case. And for subscribers, we’ve…
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Ep 91 — But Can He Do That: Birthright Citizenship Edition
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1:04:22Donald Trump has promised to cancel birthright citizenship on Day one. But can he do that? In a word, no. We have a deep dive on the very clear law of birthright citizenship in this country (and all the ways Trump will try and ignore it). We also break down yesterday’s decision and order from New York Supreme Court Justice Juan Merchan that preside…
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Ep 90 — Dems And Republicans Join Hands To Take Away The Kids’ TikTok
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56:43We talk with TechDirt’s Cathy Gellis, who is going to walk us through the DC Circuit’s opinion banning TikTok. And in the subscriber bonus, we’ll bring you up to speed on Rudy Giuliani’s continuing efforts to dodge justice in multiple courts. Links: TikTok v. Garland (DC Cir.) https://media.cadc.uscourts.gov/opinions/docs/2024/12/24-1113-2088317.pd…
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Ep 89 — The Infowars Deal Falls Apart
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1:05:09Last night US Bankruptcy Judge Christopher Lopez voided the sale of Infowars to The Onion as part of the Alex Jones Bankruptcy. It sucks a lot. And speaking of sucking, let’s talk about the Impoundment Control Act and How Trump plans to violate it. Links: ALEX JONES BANKRUPTCY DOCKET https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/66583024/alexander-e-jones/ …
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Ep 88 — Meet Brendan Carr, The Guy Who’s Going To Make Internet Service Even Sh*ttier (Ft. Karl Bode)
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1:03:18Trump has nominated Brendan Carr to chair the FCC, calling him a “warrior for Free Speech” who “will end the regulatory onslaught that has been crippling America's Job Creators and Innovators, and ensure that the FCC delivers for rural America." But as tech journalist Karl Bode explains, Carr has threatened to go after media outlets that criticiz…
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