Walking in ancient paths with contemporary feet, finding hope for today. Join us as we explore the profound intersection of theology, sociology, and science through a lens of compassion and hope. Old Paths New Steps bridges timeless wisdom with modern understanding, creating space for authentic conversations about trauma, healing, and what it means to be fully human.
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The Hip-Hop Scholar: Reading the Bible Like an Ancient with guest Hakeem Bradley
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1:04:40In this episode, Peter and Malissa chat with biblical scholar Hakeem Bradley about his journey from the Five Percent Nation to New Testament PhD studies and his recent work at Bible Project. Hakeem shares his passion for reading Genesis through ancient eyes, explaining how biblical authors "sampled" creation stories like hip-hop artists sample clas…
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Sorrow and Joy: Community, Faith, and Life After Injury with guest Cameron Horner
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56:12In this powerful episode, host Peter Voorhees and co-host Malissa Bertella sit down with Cameron Horner, who shares his remarkable journey of faith following a life-altering spinal cord injury at age 18. With striking honesty and grace, Cameron recounts how God met him underwater during the accident that left him paralyzed, and how this moment of c…
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Red Bull Spritzers and Open Gates: The Messy Beauty of Real Community
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55:17What does it really take to build authentic community where people actually belong? In this honest conversation, Peter, Josh, and Malissa explore the beautiful mess of real relationships—from opening your gate to neighbors who don't look like you, to sharing Red Bull spritzers with guarded teenagers, to navigating church hurt and disagreements with…
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Finding Wholeness: Story, Leadership and Authentic Connection with guest Annie Horner
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52:40Join us for a compelling conversation with Annie Horner, a counseling associate who reveals how understanding our personal stories can transform leadership and relationships. Annie shares powerful insights on breaking free from isolation, bridging the gap between biblical wisdom and mental health, and finding authentic connection in a performance-d…
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From Acts 29 to Anglicanism with our guest Fr. Rob Steinbach
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55:33In this vulnerable and heartfelt conversation, Peter Voorhees sits down with Father Rob Steinbach, who shares his journey from Acts 29 church planter to founding Shalom Anglican in Silverdale, WA. Father Rob opens up about his spiritual dissatisfaction that led to more contemplative practices, his disconnect with personality-driven ministry, and th…
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Hope That Transforms Community: A reflection on our conversation with Dr. Chan Hellman
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29:25In this episode, hosts Peter, Josh, and Malissa discuss their conversation with Dr. Chan Hellman about the science of hope. They explore how hope requires goals, agency, and willpower—elements that can be shared within community. The hosts emphasize that the church is uniquely positioned to foster hope, especially for those in survival mode. They h…
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Hope as a Framework for Flourishing with guest Dr. Chan Hellman
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1:01:40In this powerful episode, host Peter Voorhees sits down with Dr. Chan Hellman, Director of The Hope Research Center at the University of Oklahoma, to explore the transformative science of hope. Dr. Hellman shares how hope functions not merely as a feeling but as a powerful framework that can be taught and cultivated, especially in the face of traum…
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The Wounded Healer: Finding Strength in Vulnerability
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48:08In this episode of "Old Paths New Steps," hosts Peter Voorhees, Josh Lott, and Malissa Bertella explore the powerful concept of the wounded healer. The conversation examines how our personal wounds and struggles can become sources of ministry and healing for others when properly integrated into our stories. The hosts share personal experiences of u…
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Church History, Power, and Renewal: A reflection on our episode with Dr. Jerry Sittser
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28:08In this episode, hosts Peter, Josh, and Malissa discuss their conversation with theologian Dr. Jerry Sittser. They explore how monasteries historically served their communities rather than existing in isolation, examine the relationship between church and state, and discuss how the church's true power comes from the Holy Spirit rather than politica…
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The Role and the Gift of the Church in Challenging Times with guest Dr. Jerry Sittser
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1:00:48In this episode, hosts Peter and Malissa welcome distinguished theologian, scholar, and author Dr. Jerry Sittser to explore Christianity's resilience through history's darkest moments. Dr. Sittser shares how the Benedictine monastic movement emerged during societal collapse and natural disasters in the 6th century, quietly preserving knowledge and …
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In this episode of Old Paths, New Steps, hosts Josh, Pete, and Malissa explore the concept of sacred spaces as safe places. They journey from the Garden of Eden through biblical history to modern churches, examining what makes a space truly sacred. The conversation delves into how vulnerability, accountability, and cherishing others are essential e…
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Finding Community as Misfits: Reflecting on our conversation with Dr. Gregory Coles
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27:01In this thoughtful follow-up conversation, hosts Peter Voorhees, Malissa Bertella, and Josh Lott unpack their interview with Dr. Gregory Coles, reflecting on the beauty of embracing our "misfittedness" within authentic Christian community. The hosts share personal stories of awkwardness and not fitting neatly into expected boxes, while celebrating …
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The Power of Resilience Through Community with guest Dr. Gregory Coles
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1:03:16In this episode of Old Paths, New Steps, host Peter Voorhees welcomes author and speaker Dr. Gregory Coles. They explore the power of resilience through community, discussing how genuine connections help us navigate life's challenges. Greg shares insights from his personal journey as a celibate gay Christian, reflecting on unexpected friendships an…
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Embracing Trauma-Informed Ministry: Reflecting on our conversation with Andrea Corbridge
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29:08In this follow-up episode, hosts Peter Voorhees, Malissa Bertella, and Josh Lott discuss key insights from their conversation with Andrea Corbridge about implementing trauma-informed care in children's ministry. They explore the value of focusing on resilience over trauma, the importance of presence and connection before content, and how creating s…
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Beyond Behavior: Trauma-Informed Care in Faith Communities with guest Andrea Corbridge
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51:22In this illuminating conversation, host Peter Voorhees and co-host Malissa Bertella welcome Andrea Corbridge to explore how trauma-informed care has transformed children's ministry at City Chapel of Bremerton. Andrea shares powerful stories of moving from behavior-focused approaches to relationship-centered care that honors each child's dignity, in…
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Laughter, Limbic Lock, and the Science of Connection: Reflecting on our conversation with Dr. Luman Wing
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28:54In this episode of Old Paths, New Steps, hosts Peter, Josh, and Malissa reflect on their enlightening conversation with Dr. Lu Wing about the fascinating intersection of neuroscience, epigenetics, and human connection. They reflect how genuine laughter creates powerful neural bonds (what Dr. Wing calls "limbic lock") and share personal stories of d…
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Neuroscience of faith and healing with guest Dr. Luman Wing
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58:45Join us for an enlightening conversation with Dr. Luman Wing, a biochemist, pastor, and chaplain. With his unique blend of scientific expertise and pastoral heart, Dr. Wing explores how our bodies respond to trauma and healing at the molecular level. Discover how the emerging science of epigenetics intersects with building authentic community and f…
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In Episode 5 of Old Paths New Steps, hosts Peter Voorhees, Josh Lott, and Malissa Bertella explore the profound practice of lament and its role in healing and faith. Drawing from the first recorded lament in Genesis to Jesus's expressions of grief, they unpack how lament isn't just about expressing pain—it's about discovering who God truly is in th…
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Past Experiences, Present Grace: Creating Safe Spaces for Growth with guest Rick Griffin
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1:02:13Join us for a transformative conversation with Rick Griffin, founder of the Neuro Leadership Academy, as he reveals how understanding trauma and the brain's response to past experiences can revolutionize the way we build community. Through engaging examples, including a revealing game of Simon Says, Rick shares practical insights on moving from jud…
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Community as Healing: Building Resilient Faith Communities
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1:05:55In Episode 3 of Old Paths New Steps, hosts Peter Voorhees, Josh Lott, and Malissa Bertella explore the vital role of authentic community in healing. Drawing from Henri Nouwen's wisdom that "Christian community is a healing community not because wounds are cured, but because wounds become openings for a new vision," they unpack how true healing happ…
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Intro to Trauma from a Biblical Perspective
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1:03:25In Episode 2 of Old Paths New Steps, hosts Peter Voorhees, Josh Lott, and Malissa Bertella delve into understanding trauma through a biblical lens. While "trauma" has become a cultural buzzword, appearing in countless books and podcasts since Bessel van der Kolk's "The Body Keeps the Score" hit bestseller lists, the hosts explore its deeper meaning…
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In this debut episode of Old Paths New Steps, hosts Peter Voorhees, Josh Lott, and Malissa Bertella lay the foundation for a unique exploration of trauma, faith, and healing. Fresh from the holiday season and admittedly still finding their routines, the hosts share vulnerable insights from their collective decades of pastoral and personal experienc…
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In this final teaser before our launch, get a sneak peek at what's ahead for Old Paths New Steps. Featuring select moments from our upcoming first episode, we share our vision for exploring timeless wisdom in today's world. Join us as we preview the conversations, insights, and journey ahead. Our full-length premiere episode launches Monday - don't…
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Teaser- Who are some of the people we'll learn from?
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7:30Meet some of the amazing people joining us on Old Paths New Steps! From Lu, who shows us how ancient wisdom literally transforms our DNA, to Greg, whose friendship grew through deep conversations about faith, sexuality, theology, and inclusivity. You'll hear from Rick, a master of workplace transformation with a passion for trauma-informed practice…
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Meet Josh, co-host of Old Paths New Steps. With a unique blend of humor and insight, Josh brings his diverse experience as a pastor, non-profit leader, and foster parent to the conversation. He understands firsthand how trauma-informed care is crucial in every setting - from churches to families to organizations. Josh's mission? To help us ask bett…
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In this special teaser episode of Old Paths New Steps, meet Malissa, one of our compassionate co-hosts. She opens up about her transformative journey through trauma-informed care and her deep desire to understand people's stories. With authenticity and warmth, Malissa shares how her experiences have shaped her mission to love others better and crea…
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Hey there! Over the next few weeks, we want to give you a chance to get to know the faces and hearts behind Old Paths New Steps. We're passionate about exploring how ancient wisdom speaks to modern life – where theology meets science, where traditional understanding meets new discoveries, and where healing and hope take root in both the old and the…
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Something new is coming! Old Paths New Steps is a podcast born from hearts radically transformed by love, community, and a relationship with Jesus. We are excited to share with you things that we are passionate about related to trauma informed care, theology, resiliency, hope, making room for the 'other' in church, building strong faith communities…
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