“Real Estate for Breakfast” is a Chicago-centric commercial real estate podcast presented by McGuireWoods. Hosted by Phil Coover, a partner at McGuireWoods, the podcast features conversations with industry leaders including developers, property management professionals, brokers, attorneys, investors, visionaries, tenants, tenant representatives, and business owners. The show delivers thoughtful commentary on current real estate issues, explanations of sophisticated real estate challenges, an ...
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Welcome to Deal-by-Deal, a Podcast by McGuireWoods. Deal-by-Deal invites you to conversations with experienced independent sponsors and other private equity professionals. Join McGuireWoods partners Greg Hawver and Jeff Brooker as they explore middle-market Private Equity M&A to provide you with timely insights and relevant takeaways. McGuireWoods is a full-service firm providing legal and public affairs solutions to corporate, individual, and nonprofit clients worldwide for more than 200 ye ...
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Deal Us In is a podcast brought to you by McGuireWoods. Deal Us In promotes the advancement of women in private equity and finance through conversations with women leaders and rising stars in the private equity and finance space. These conversations provide both insights and practical takeaways to inform your deal work and enhance the culture of your organization. If you’re ready to drive the industry toward a more inclusive and diverse environment then, it’s time to come to the table. If yo ...
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The Capital Corner is a McGuireWoods podcast exploring investment strategies, capital structures, and topics relevant in today’s middle-market private equity. Join McGuireWoods partner, Geoff Cockrell as he and specialists share practical insights to inform your deal work. McGuireWoods is a full-service firm providing legal and public affairs solutions to corporate, individual, and nonprofit clients worldwide for more than 200 years collectively. Our commitment to excellence in everything we ...
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Welcome to Across the Table, a healthcare private equity podcast brought to you by McGuireWoods. Across the Table brings you timely and relevant discussions with the specialists and professionals of the healthcare private equity and finance industry on such topics as distressed assets, add-ons, and mergers and acquisitions (M&A) and more. We’ll share the latest developments, provide insight, identify issues and talk takeaways. McGuireWoods is a full-service firm providing legal and public af ...
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Private Equity's Secret Weapon: Real Estate Arbitrage, with Jordan Shtulman and Jonathan Wolfe
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41:35What if you could turn your real estate into a money-making machine while keeping your business running exactly where it is? Jordan Shtulman and Jonathan Wolfe of Stream Capital Partners have mastered the art of sale leaseback arbitrage, helping private equity firms unlock millions from non-earning real estate assets. With host Phil Coover, they ex…
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Alternative Investment Strategies: Accessing Institutional-Grade Opportunities, with Chris Burns
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32:32"I'm an advisor for alternative investments," explains Chris Burns about how he connects individual investors with institutional-grade opportunities. The founder of Quema Capital and a broker-dealer with Great Point Capital in Chicago, Chris specializes in helping investors access real estate syndications, development deals, acquisition funds, and …
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Eight years after Ariez Dustoor and his partner launched the investment firm NB Group, Ariez has observed a growing sophistication among independent sponsors. With host Greg Hawver, Ariez discusses why the independent sponsor model offers superior flexibility and opportunity in the ever-changing M&A landscape, including some observations on future …
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Chicago's Premier Neighborhoods: The 100-Unit Sweet Spot, with Matt Katsaros
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34:18“Underwriting in Chicago is, I think, a bit easier than a lot of other markets,” says Matt Katsaros, founder of Wildwood Investments, adding, “Especially when you're local and you know the players, you can quantify risk a little bit easier.” Matt knows the players. Wildwood Investments has carved a niche in Chicago's premier neighborhoods by develo…
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How Women’s World Banking Unlocks Billions in Hidden Revenue, with Mary Ellen Iskenderian
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35:27Mary Ellen Iskenderian of Women's World Banking shares her journey from traditional finance to leading global women's financial inclusion efforts. Drawing on 18 years as president and CEO, Mary Ellen explains how Women's World Banking evolved from its founding at the first UN women's conference to become both an NGO and an impact-focused asset mana…
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Unlocking Value with Real Estate in M&A Transactions
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28:17"When you're doing a sale leaseback transaction, you're not really selling the bricks and the sticks. You're selling a cashflow stream that's backed by a good company," explains Luke Timmis of Signature Associates in this discussion with host Greg Hawver and his McGuireWoods’ colleague Phil Coover. Luke shares how sale leasebacks typically generate…
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Investing in Emerging Markets: Challenges and Payoffs, with Hannah Schiff
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17:26Hannah Schiff of Developing World Markets navigates the delicate balance between meaningful impact and competitive financial returns in emerging markets investing. Drawing on her decade of experience in impact investing, Hannah shares how DWM directs capital through local entrepreneurs who understand their communities' needs. With host Penny Zachar…
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Deal-Hunting During Mixed Economic Signals: Expert Insights
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31:32“In terms of the big three numbers – employment, inflation, and GDP growth – our baseline forecast is optimistic,” says Matt Wolf of RSM in this economic outlook discussion with host Greg Hawver. Matt points to a 4.2% unemployment rate, two-and-a-half point inflation, and 2.5% GDP growth. But he also observes that the uncertainty of tariffs is crea…
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Things Nobody Told Women in Finance about Self-Advocacy
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53:21Hosts Casey Nelson and Kelly Wray invite three guests for their insights about how women in finance and law can advocate for themselves. Linda Filardi of Flagstar Bank, Jess Yovich at BMO Commercial Bank, and McGuireWoods’ colleague Gretchen Townshend recall their own journeys to guide others. Among their suggested strategies: documenting accomplis…
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Host Greg Hawver interviews Chris Larson of Monroe Capital and Jeff Magny of Lincoln Road Global Management about their buy-and-build strategy in the commercial landscaping industry. Chris and Jeff describe how they work together to finance and execute these acquisitions, the key attributes they look for in a successful buy-and-build strategy, and …
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Grabbing the Bull by the Horns as an Independent Sponsor, with Chelsea Celistan
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32:19To underrepresented independent sponsors, Chelsea Celistan has a simple message: “There is a large market that you can do really well in. Full stop.” The head of Independent Sponsor and Company Direct Investment Strategy at Avante Capital Partners, Chelsea shares her encouraging vision in this conversation with host Phyllis Young. She also details …
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Guiding Independent Sponsors on Carry Structures and Catch-Ups, with Grant Kornman
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27:53Grant Kornman, a partner at Align Collaborate, joins hosts Jeff Brooker and Jason Griffith for a primer on tiered carry structures and catch-ups in the private equity market. Grant shares insights about negotiating economics and governance terms, emphasizing the importance of aligning incentives and being a good steward of capital. He highlights th…
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Reaching New Heights in Multi-Family Real Estate with Joe Smazal
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46:26In this episode of the Real Estate for Breakfast podcast, Ice Miller Real Estate Practice Group partner and host Phil Coover, sits down for a conversation with Joe Smazal, Senior Managing Partner at Interra Realty. Joe brings more than a decade of experience specializing in the sale of mid-market apartment buildings in Chicago. With nearly $1 billi…
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Take Your Seat at the Table, with Kenna Craver
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34:25The two parties in the deal had different priorities, but Kenna Craver managed conflict by leveraging a superpower unique to women in private equity: fostering collaboration and trust. The founder and managing partner of private investment firm Kamel Capital, Kenna encourages women in finance to recognize those strengths and more, including being “…
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Solving a Distressed Business’s Balance Sheet Problems with Robert Orr and Mark Freedlander
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27:27Host Greg Hawver welcomes his McGuireWoods colleague Mark Freedlander, head of the firm’s Restructuring & Insolvency Practice Group, and Robert Orr, principal at Sandton Capital Partners, to discuss their recent restructuring of a distressed healthcare business. The team took out the existing senior secured lender and allowed an out-of-court restru…
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2024 Independent Sponsor Deal Survey – More Deals, More Sophistication
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38:00Hosts Greg Hawver, Jeff Brooker, and Jason Griffith present the 2024 Independent Sponsor Deal Survey, a treasure trove of data compiled from more than 300 transactions by independent sponsors and capital partners. “One of the things that’s really changing in independent sponsor transactions is that the professionalism, the backgrounds of the folks,…
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LIVE FROM ISC2024: Anatomy of a Successful Independent Sponsor Deal with Oliver Patten and Parker Shields
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28:58Recording live from the Independent Sponsor Conference in Dallas, host Jason Griffith invites Oliver Patten and Parker Shields of Sherburne Partners to discuss their experience buying a packaging company. Oliver and Parker cover a range of topics, from stepping in as independent sponsors to building relationships to asking the management team “stup…
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Women in Finance Can Overcome Challenges at Work; Here’s How
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40:09From mentors to hybrid work schedules to checking biases at the door, strategies for navigating workplace challenges are accessible but often require buy-in from colleagues and management. Five McGuireWoods women attorneys at various stages of their careers offer these insights and more in this episode of Deal Us In. New hosts Kelly Wray and Casey …
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Navigating Governance and Rollover Equity in Independent Sponsor Deals with Mike Palm
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25:22Mike Palm of Charter Capital Partners discusses governance and seller rollover in independent sponsor deals with hosts Greg Hawver and Jason Griffith. Their conversation covers the importance of building trust and relationships with sponsors, aligning interests through rollover equity, and navigating board dynamics. Mike emphasizes the need for fou…
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Chicago Industrial Real Estate with David Haigh of NAI Hiffman
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47:31We’re back with another episode of the Real Estate for Breakfast podcast. Ice Miller partner and host, Phil Coover sits down with David Haigh, Executive Vice President and Principal with NAI Hiffman, a full-service, privately owned commercial real estate brokerage and management company. Phil and Dave dive right into it--with Dave discussing Hiffma…
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FTC’s Non-Compete Ban Overturned + Evolution of Non-Competes in M&A Deals
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29:08On this cross-over episode of Deal by Deal and The Corner Series, McGuireWoods’ partners Greg Hawver and Geoff Cockrell welcome labor and employment partner Meghaan Madriz to discuss recent headlines regarding the FTC’s proposed ban and the broader legal landscape for non-competes. Tune in as Meghaan breaks down the evolving enforceability of restr…
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Growing Businesses in Underserved Communities with Sheila Emami of St. Cloud Capital
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21:40An entrepreneur’s business is like their first-born child, says Sheila Emami. Her mission is to help them grow. The vice president of St. Cloud Capital, Sheila explains the relationship-driven approach that St. Cloud leverages on behalf of small businesses and underserved communities nationwide. In this conversation with host Penny Zacharias, Sheil…
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Private Markets, Diversity, and Impact Investing with Beata Kirr of The Copia Group, LLC
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37:30Purpose. Private Markets. Impact. To some, those are mere concepts. But to The Copia Group’s Beata Kirr, those words are an investment strategy. In this episode of Deal Us In, Beata Kirr joins host Phyllis Young to discuss impact investing, particularly in private markets. Tune in as Beata discusses how impact investing can lead to higher financial…
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Scaling Success: How SC Moatti & Mighty Capital Defy Traditional Venture Capital Norms
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35:53What do you get when you cross an electrical engineering degree with an MBA? An innovative and successful fund manager. In this episode of Deal Us In, one-of-a-kind venture capital firm manager SC Moatti of Mighty Capital joins host Kelsey Hitchcock to discuss how she carefully selects her investment opportunities, analyzes emerging challenges and …
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Chicago Office Challenges and Opportunities with Matt Pistorio
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42:09In this episode of the Real Estate for Breakfast podcast, Ice Miller Real Estate Practice Group partner and host Phil Coover sits down with Matt Pistorio, principal at R2 Companies, a privately-held, fully integrated real estate investment and development firm, and founder of Madison Rose, a real estate firm specializing in agency leasing. During t…
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The Challenges of Independent Sponsorship with Jonny Miller and Mario Burstein of Platt Park Capital Partners
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23:56On this episode of Deal by Deal, co-hosts Jason Griffith and Trey Andrews welcome Jonny Miller and Mario Burstein of Platt Park Capital Partners to discuss their emergence into independent sponsorship. Tune in as Jonny and Mario discuss how Platt Park came to be, how they secured their first deal, and how they can apply what they learned in their f…
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Developments in M&A Insurance Market with Matt Heinz of Lockton
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20:03Recently, the M&A market has cooled since it burned red-hot in the aftermath of Covid. What impact has the slowdown in M&A activity had on insurance products related to mergers and acquisitions? On this episode of Deal-by-Deal, host Greg Hawver is joined by Matt Heinz of Lockton to discuss developments in M&A insurance products. Specifically, Matt …
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Empowerment Through Maternal Guidance: Nurturing Confidence, Building Networks, and Mentorship with Amy Weisman and Julia Weisman
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45:13Don’t be deferential when you should be more confident. “Technical skills give you the confidence to speak up and take a seat at the table,” says Amy Weisman. On this episode of Deal Us In, host Penny Zacharias, Partner at McGuireWoods, is joined by mother-daughter duo, Amy Weisman, Managing Director of Business Development at Sterling Investment P…
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Balancing Work and Family and the Lessons Learned Along the Way with Laura Redinger
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39:57The workplace has changed considerably in recent years, making arrangements such as working from home more common. However, navigating a career path while simultaneously raising a family can still be challenging, especially in the high-powered financial industry. On this episode of Deal Us In, host Kelsey Hitchcock, partner at McGuideWoods, welcome…
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LIVE FROM EMC: Emerging Manager John Huhn of Compass Group Reflects on Journey from Independent Sponsor to Raising Multiple Funds
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23:29On this episode of Deal-by-Deal, host Greg Hawver is joined by John Huhn, Managing Partner at the Compass Group. Tune in as Greg and John discuss lessons learned during the Compass Group’s successful independent sponsor investing phase. John also provides key insights for those PE investors seeking to raise a committed fund in the current environme…
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Be Prepared to Pivot and Jump with Meredith Carter
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25:45If you could look ahead and see the future, and that future doesn’t appeal to you, then you might want to pivot your strategy or your career aspirations. On this episode of Deal Us In, host Ann Dorsett, counsel at McGuireWoods, welcomes guest Meredith Carter, President and CEO of Edge Capital, a family office-backed specialty finance company outsid…
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Green is Green —The Economic Case for Clean Energy in Real Estate Projects with Chris Gersch
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41:18In this episode of the Real Estate for Breakfast podcast, host Phil Coover interviews Chris Gersch, the founder and CEO of Verde Solutions (Verde). Verde is a full-service consulting firm utilizing a sensible approach to renewable energy, primarily focusing on building, financing, and engineering solar systems, also advising on battery storage and …
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Working Hard, Finding Balance, and Letting Go of ‘Mom Guilt’ with Kristin Gunther
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31:26We see people succeed and wonder how they got there. But it’s just as important to look at what they didn’t do, as it is to look at what they did. On this episode of Deal Us In, host Xaviera Webb, an associate at McGuireWoods, is joined by guest Kristin Gunther, partner at Revolution Growth, a venture firm based in Washington, D.C. With over 15 yea…
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Secondary Transactions: Overview, Drivers, and Market Predictions with Darren O’Brien of Campbell Lutyens
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22:12On this episode of Deal-by-Deal, host Greg Hawver is joined by Darren O'Brien, Managing Director of Campbell Lutyens, the largest independent private capital advisory firm. Tune in as Greg and Darren discuss the hot topic of secondary transactions, a growing niche area. Starting with a high-level introduction to secondary transactions and the secon…
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Promoting Female Leadership: Be the Difference You Want to See with Hannah Jordana
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30:26Depending on where you work, financial institutions can have a churn-and-burn atmosphere. How does this affect work-life balance, particularly for aspiring female business leaders? Although previous generations did a lot of the heavy lifting in terms of overcoming barriers to female leadership, there's always work to be done. On this episode of Dea…
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Start Strong in a Private Equity Career, With Alyssa Daniel of PNC Mezzanine Capital
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34:32Most of us have experienced imposter syndrome. But when you’re the only woman of color in a predominantly white, male-dominated field, it can feel like you’re shooting above your weight. On this episode of Deal Us In, McGuireWoods associate Xaviera Webb talks to Alyssa Daniel, a private equity associate with PNC Mezzanine Capital, about Alyssa’s jo…
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2024 Outlook for Founder-Owned Business/Middle Market M&A, with Investment Banker Derek Zacarias of DAK
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29:10On this episode of Deal-by-Deal, host Greg Hawver is joined by investment banker Derek Zacarias from DAK. Together, they explore what the next 12 months may hold for M&A relating to founder-owned businesses, private equity-backed transactions and the broader middle market. This engaging discussion explores the macroeconomic trends as well as more i…
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How Heightened FTC Scrutiny Affects Roll-Up Strategy, with McGuireWoods’ Holden Brooks: A Cross-over Episode from Deal-by-Deal
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28:55In this special crossover edition of Across the Table, we're excited to republish an insightful episode from our sister podcast, Deal-by-Deal. Host Greg Hawver talks to fellow McGuireWoods partner Holden Brooks about antitrust considerations for private equity investors in the middle market (and, interestingly, the lower middle market). They begin …
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How Heightened FTC Scrutiny Affects Roll-Up Strategy, with McGuireWoods’ Holden Brooks
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27:53In this episode of Deal-by-Deal, host Greg Hawver talks to fellow McGuireWoods partner Holden Brooks about antitrust considerations for private equity investors in the middle market (and, interestingly, the lower middle market). They begin by discussing the Hart-Scott-Rodino Act, which requires pre-close filings for deals valued above $111.4 millio…
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Navigating the Path to Raising a Committed Fund with McGuireWoods’ Rick Starling
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26:39On this episode of Deal-by-Deal, host Greg Hawver and fellow McGuireWoods partner, fund formation lawyer Rick Starling, discuss considerations and alternatives to raising a committed fund, analyze what’s going on in today’s market, and share insights on the phases of raising a fund. The episode also explores fund structures such as the "proof of co…
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Investing in Black Women: How Tamika Tyson and TGC Are Bridging the Gap
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24:26For Tamika Tyson, problem solving has not only always been her greatest strength, but also the driving force behind her co-founding her own private equity firm, TGC Impact. With more than 25 years of experience in risk management and structure, Tamika has worked in banking, energy, industrial, and international markets and through five different ec…
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New Factors to Consider in Due Diligence, With Kroll’s Cathleen Hughes
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30:27On this episode of Deal-By-Deal, host Greg Hawver is joined by Cathleen Hughes, Kroll’s Director of Corporate Finance and Restructuring, for a deep dive into due diligence, including M&A transactions and post-closing. Risks associated with M&A deals have evolved. “And these risks include those that can be discovered pre-transaction as well as risks…
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ESG in Commercial Real Estate with Sarah Cannella of Hiffman National
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37:19In this episode of the Real Estate for Breakfast podcast, Ice Miller partner Phil Coover interviews Sarah Cannella, Director of Property Management Operations for Hiffman National, which is the asset management arm of the privately owned, commercial real estate and management firm. During their conversation, Phil and Sarah discuss how Hiffman is no…
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What’s Next? Foreseeing the Drive and Demand in an Ever-Changing Real Estate Landscape with Jon McCulloch, CEO of Belgravia Group
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42:23In this episode of the Real Estate for Breakfast podcast, Ice Miller partner Phil Coover interviews Jon McCulloch, CEO of Belgravia Group, an award-winning Chicago based real estate developer, that has provided quality homes and real estate services to clients for 75 years. During their conversation, Phil and Jon talk about his start with the compa…
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Banker’s View of the Current M&A Market, With Hector Torres of DC Advisory
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33:20On this episode of Deal-By-Deal, host Greg Hawver is joined by investment banker Hector Torres, Managing Director of DC Advisory’s global healthcare team, for a discussion on the new normal in the M&A market, especially involving the healthcare industry. Hector explains that, while market activity is starting to level out from the torrent of transa…
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Office Space: An Alarming Situation and the Coming Wall of Maturity -- with Alissa Adler of Colliers
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34:37In this episode of the Real Estate for Breakfast podcast, Ice Miller Real Estate Practice Group partner and host Phillip Coover welcomes Alissa Adler, Senior Vice President at Colliers, a global real estate services firm. During the podcast, Alissa and Phil discuss serious distress in the office real estate market nationwide—particularly in larger …
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Empathy, Persistence, and Patience In Private Equity with Aneesha Raghunathan
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32:31On this episode of Deal Us In, host Rebecca Rheney, an associate at McGuireWoods, is joined by Aneesha Raghunatha, Vice President at Susquehanna Growth Equity. Aneesha has industry expertise across fintech and healthcare and currently focuses on data and enterprise software. Her current companies include Sievo, ZenQMS, LiveBarn, MediSpend, and more…
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Behind the Deal: Finding Success in the Independent Sponsor-Capital Provider Model
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33:34It takes nerves of steel to start a deal during COVID and exit it during the Silicon Valley Bank collapse, and today’s guests pulled it off. On this episode of Deal-By-Deal, host Greg Hawver is joined by Evan Gallinson of Merit Capital Partners and Jonathan Schilowitz of MFG Partners to present a case study of a successful relationship between an i…
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Reflections on the Past, Present and Future of Women in Private Equity and Finance
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41:32In this episode of Deal Us In, hosts Phyllis Young, Ann Terrell Dorsett, and Kelsey Hitchcock welcome guests Xaviera Webb and Rebecca Rheney to the podcast. As newer, younger members of the McGuireWoods team, Xaviera and Rebecca bring a fresh perspective to this series. In their first episode, the two McGuireWoods associates flip the script a littl…
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Crafting Successful Healthcare Investments: The Power of the Right Partners and Assets
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19:12On this episode of Across the Table, host Kayla McCann Marty is joined by Alexis Rathborne, Managing Director of Investments at Trident for a discussion on the healthcare market and the investment thesis driving Trident’s team. Alexis explains how she applies Trident’s investment thesis – that identifying the right investment and operating partners…
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