The internet is a balkanization of the populace: Everybody finds those they want to listen to. It is exceedingly difficult to teach somebody whose principal input in his life is through the internet. With a flesh-and-blood pastor, you at least can see his sins, his wife, and his children. Generally, with a pastor, you can’t escape his bad smells, b…

***Live Zoom videoconference with Jürgen and Tim will take place on Tuesday, April 29, at 2 p.m. ET.*** Jürgen von Hagen leads a discussion on tariffs, trade, and global economics. NOTE: This episode is best listened to with THESE GRAPHS pulled up on your device. Also discussed: Trump's tariff strategy, the Russian threat, trusting God with our liv…

Not All Tesla is Tesla. What Tesla means to people has shifted drastically. It’s a shibboleth in our culture. From the darling of the green left to the “Swasticar,” you're now considered a villain if you drive a Tesla, particularly a Cybertruck. We don’t understand Elon Musk until we get a grip on South Africa and her unapologetic males. South Afri…

What is the origin of the "devil's advocate"? What are the benefits of assigning someone to that role? It has been noted in Scottish Presbyterian polity that a unanimous decision has not been sufficiently debated. In other words, either the issue was trivial, the presbyters were apathetic, or no one stepped up to elevate the debate by serving as th…

Pastor Tim is joined by his wife (Mary Lee) and their three daughters (Heather, Michal, & Hannah). They discuss Catherine Ruth Pakaluk's recent book Hannah's Children: The Women Quietly Defying the Birth Dearth. The book serves as a launching point for discussing the joys and troubles of motherhood, childrearing, and the culturally rebellious decis…

Jürgen von Hagen joins Tim Bayly to discuss fruitfulness, natalism, and fertility demographics. From Malthus to Erlich to many contemporaries—for over two centuries—the prophets of doom have pleaded with mankind to abandon fruitfulness to survive. Modern man—and the Christian church—has only been too willing to obey those false prophets in direct c…

Rev. Dr. Jürgen Von Hagen joined Tim and Andrew to discuss European culture and international relations. Last week, US Vice President Vance gave a speech at the Munich Security Conference—a meeting of top European military leaders, diplomats, and government officials. Vance's speech was a shock to many Germans (and the broader European community) b…

So often we attempt to be aspirational in the setting of traditions in our families. What does that mean? It means we work hard to build traditions meant to project to others the "perfection" of our marriages, our childrearing, and our homesteads. Rather than cave to the pressure to portray the perfect home with the perfect traditions for the perfe…

Los Angeles burns and fire policy in California is exposed. Accountability and reformation ought to come. What can we learn about church reform from wildfires and fire policy? It is common for pastors to be punished when the fire of the Holy Spirit begins to burn. Fire ought to be allowed (planned burns); so, too, the Holy Spirit will burn for the …

The most powerful man today is the man who has the best case for being a victim. Young men intuitively know this reality and are thereby inclined to victimhood. In every narrative about their lives, they portray themselves as victims. Conversely, real manhood is about taking responsibility and being an agent—not a perpetual victim. On the other han…

Audio from our 2024 Shepherds Conference: Unity—Fighting Schism for the Good of the Church. October 4, 2024 WOMEN'S BREAKOUT | FULL OF MERCY AND GOOD FRUITS: HOW WOMEN CAN SOW SEEDS OF PEACE IN THE CHURCH Mrs. Annie Curell Women are uniquely equipped to either foster or destroy unity in a church. They should use their relational superpowers for goo…

Audio from our 2024 Shepherds Conference: Unity—Fighting Schism for the Good of the Church. October 4, 2024 PLENARY SESSION 2 | JUDE: BUILDING UNITY Rev. Jeremy Vander Galien Jude teaches us practical ways to build unity while fighting divisiveness. How are pastors called to strengthen their congregations in faith and love? What encouragement does …

Audio from our 2024 Shepherds Conference: Unity—Fighting Schism for the Good of the Church. October 4, 2024 BREAKOUT | UNITY AMONG CHURCHES: HOW TO KILL IT AND HOW TO BUILD IT Rev. Alex McNeilly It’s a lot of work maintaining and building unity within our own church. Is it really worth the extra effort to strive for unity with other churches too? Y…

Audio from our 2024 Shepherds Conference: Unity—Fighting Schism for the Good of the Church. October 4, 2024 BREAKOUT | THE UNITY OF HUMILITY Rev. Tim Bayly We pastors are proud. After all, we preach God’s Word and care for immortal souls. No one can say we aren’t very important men. But pride destroys. It sets men against each other. Instead of lov…

Audio from our 2024 Shepherds Conference: Unity—Fighting Schism for the Good of the Church. October 4, 2024 BREAKOUT | NON-ESSENTIALS THAT DIVIDE Rev. Stephen Baker From the beginning, the Church has been prone to factions that have often formed around secondary doctrinal questions. Issues like baptism, eschatology, church government, worship, and …

Audio from our 2024 Shepherds Conference: Unity—Fighting Schism for the Good of the Church. October 3, 2024 PLENARY SESSION 1 | JUDE: DEALING WITH THOSE WHO DIVIDE Rev. Jeremy Vander Galien Jude spends more than half his short book warning against those who follow "the way of Cain," sowing discord among brothers. How do pastors guard their congrega…

Halloween candy and rhubarb pie Lithium batteries and Tesla fires An AI podcast summary of Evangel Presbytery’s book, Abortion and the Church. Twentieth-century growth in bloodshed Worldwide population decline Desensitized to life, death, and abortion GoPro videos, movies, and bloodshed Men and war, women and childbirth True and false prophets Disc…

From Pulitzer Center: “Germans Thought They Were Immune to Nationalism After Confronting Their Nazi Past. They Were Wrong” Tim Bayly interviews Jürgen von Hagen on Christian nationalism, exploring its historical roots within the Lutheran Church during the Nazi regime. They discuss Toby Von Hagen’s (Jürgen’s son) thesis on the church's intertwining …

Pastors Tim and Juergen discuss the latter’s education in Germany and his move to the United States to teach economics at Indiana University’s (now named) Kelley School of Business. Juergen recounts how he and his wife, Ilsa, came to faith through the witness and compassion of members of Grace Covenant Presbyterian Church (PCA). The discussion then…

Around 1980, people around the world began speaking of "human flourishing." In 2000, the frequency of the phrase's use in media flourished exponentially. Be suspicious of new words and phrases taking the world by storm. As Chesterton said, before you take a fence down you must determine why it was erected in the first place. New words and phrases o…

Pastor Tim and Andrew reflect on one of the significant reset points in our year: the beginning of the new school year. The free-ranging discussion includes the following topics: How do you send your children off in the morning? The utility of school uniforms How to remove some decisions from your day because they drain your battery Avoid parenting…

We have failed to teach our children and our culture the creation mandates: "God blessed them; and God said to them, 'Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over every living thing that moves on the earth'" (Gen. 1:28). We need to restore the faith that believ…

In this episode, Pastor Tim Bayly is joined by his son, Joseph (Senior Pastor at Christ Church in Cincinnati), and son-in-law, Lucas Weeks (College and Administrative Pastor at Trinity Reformed Church in Bloomington, IN) to discuss parenting. We often think that our parenting is a failure if we have to resort to authority. That attitude is foolishn…

History changes very quickly. Read the book of Esther. We've witnessed numerous surprising and sobering changes in the past two weeks. The performance of President Biden during the debate makes us question who allowed for (or orchestrated) such a sad spectacle. What if an assassin's bullet had killed former President Trump? What effect will this ev…

It must be understood that the Christian faith is never owned by any king or any party. A constant temptation of Christians is to be programmed by personalities. Rather than taking cheap, easy, stupid, and faithless shortcuts, we ought to be taught how to think. Primarily and tragically, we forget the doctrine of the sinfulness of all men (even our…

The people of God know how to justify generosity toward themselves and stinginess toward the church and her shepherds. The Lord rebukes His people for such sin through the prophet Haggai: "Then the word of the LORD came by Haggai the prophet, saying, 'Is it time for you yourselves to dwell in your paneled houses while this house lies desolate?'" (H…

Jürgen Von Hagen and Tim Bayly return to the studio and do some follow-up work on the war in Ukraine. Then they cover numerous other geopolitical, economic, and societal issues: Is America an empire Letters from listeners Milton Friedman and the welfare state Immigration and skilled/unskilled labor What is the value of human life? Under the Third R…

Rev. Dr. Jürgen von Hagen, the senior pastor of Free Evangelical Church in Mülheim an der Ruhr, Germany, and professor of economics at the University of Bonn, Germany, joins Rev. Bayly at the Michigan house for a free-ranging conversation on Ukraine, Putin, German church history, the European economy, and leadership. A quick summary of Jürgen's vie…

Out of Our Minds Podcast: Pastors Who Say What They Think. For the love of Christ and His Church. Out of Our Minds is a production of New Geneva Academy. Are you interested in preparing for ordained ministry with pastors? Have a desire to grow in your knowledge and fear of God? Apply at www.newgenevaacademy.com. Master of Divinity Bachelor of Divin…

Parachurch ministries, political causes, and entrepreneurial enterprises seduce good men away from giving their lives to the Church and her pastoral work. How do we attract young men to the work of the Church during the formative years of their lives? College professors successfully shape their students, often in perverse ways. Why do pastors lack …

The parachurch was an innovation of entrepreneurially-minded Christians during the twentieth century. They considered the Church to be old and in the way. Efficiency was the gospel need of the day, so cumbersome mechanisms like denominations, ordination, and church discipline were bypassed. Pastor Bayly and Andrew Henry discuss the rise of the para…

There are very few places as divisive in today's church as the potluck lunch. When visitors come to our churches we are likely to hear them proclaim about their food orthodoxy before they say anything about their theology or church background. Tim and Andrew offer some helpful commentary about how to keep food from dividing the church. Show Notes T…

The sins of abusers are heinous, but the sins of those who cover the sins of abusers are more heinous. For more on the scandal of Tenth Presbyterian Church, read this series on Warhorn Media. Scott Manetsch, Calvin's Company of Pastors: Pastoral Care and the Emerging Reformed Church. Richard Baxter on the sins of the eyes (pdf), taken from A Christ…

This is a special Christmas episode of Out of Our Minds Podcast. It is a recording of "How Silently, How Silently, a parable about Jesus arriving in Wheaton on December 23rd, in a snowstorm. The story is found in Bayly,'s The Gospel Blimp (and other parables. Out of Our Minds Podcast: Pastors who say what they think. For the love of Christ and His …

Andrew Henry, Tim & Mary Lee Bayly continue their conversation on children and danger, turning in this episode to speak of the dangers of sexual sin. How do we keep our children safe from sexual predators? How do we stay vigilant and responsive, doing the necessary work of protecting the vulnerable? Why are we tempted to keep the peace in the face …

John Ensor (President of PassionLife), Ben Sulser (of Church of the King in Evansville, IN, and Ensor's son-in-law), and Tim Bayly continue their conversation on abortion. The first half of the conversation roamed afield as we discussed singleness, womanhood, manhood, abortion, being pro-life, preaching, and the Church. This half turns to abortion,…

John Ensor (President of PassionLife), Ben Sulser (of Church of the King in Evansville, IN, and Ensor's son-in-law), and Tim Bayly sat down and talked. We've broken the conversation into halves. This first half roams afield as we discuss singleness, womanhood, manhood, abortion, being pro-life, preaching, and the Church. The second half will be rel…

Audio from our 2023 Shepherds Conference: Hope in God: Bearing the Burden of Ministry. Women's Breakout Session: "Helpmate to a Dispirited Husband" by Mary Lee Bayly & Sarah Dionne. October 5, 2023. Women's Breakout | Helpmate to a Dispirited Husband ​Mary Lee Bayly & Sarah Dionne The pastor has barely enough to give the church and comes home depre…

Audio from our 2023 Shepherds Conference: Hope in God: Bearing the Burden of Ministry. Session 5, "I will give you rest" (Matt. 11:28-30) by Pastor Max Curell. October 5, 2023. SESSION 5 | "I will give you rest" (Matt. 11:28-30) Pastor Max Curell Jesus gives rest to the weary soul and the guilty conscience. The pastor's work is to lead others to th…

Audio from our 2023 Shepherds Conference: Hope in God: Bearing the Burden of Ministry. Session 4, "I will boast about my weaknesses" (2 Cor. 12:7-10) by Pastor Tim Bayly. October 5, 2023. SESSION 4 | "I will boast about my weaknesses" (2 Cor. 12:7-10) Pastor Tim Bayly The Apostle Paul felt his weaknesses keenly. But he boasted in them, understandin…

Audio from our 2023 Shepherds Conference: Hope in God: Bearing the Burden of Ministry. Session 3, "Conflicts without, fears within" (2 Cor. 7:5-6) by Pastor David Abu-Sara. October 5, 2023. SESSION 3 | "Conflict without, fears within" (2 Cor. 7:5-6) Pastor David Abu-Sara In ministry, a pastor is afflicted within and without for the sake of the Gosp…

Audio from our 2023 Shepherds Conference: Hope in God: Bearing the Burden of Ministry. Session 2, "I alone am left" (1 Kings 19:1-18) by Pastor Joseph Bayly. October 5, 2023. SESSION 2 | "I alone am left" (1 Kings 19:1-18) Rev. Joseph Bayly Sometimes a pastor comes to believe he's alone in his faithfulness, and his work seems futile. The prophet El…

Audio from our 2023 Shepherds Conference: Hope in God: Bearing the Burden of Ministry. Session 1, "Scum of the World" (1 Cor. 4:9-13 & 2 Cor. 11:28-29) by Pastor Tim Bayly. October 4, 2023. SESSION 1 | "Scum of the World" (1 Cor. 4:9-13 & 2 Cor. 11:28-29) Pastor Tim Bayly When a pastor feels like the scum of the world and the lowest of the low, he …

It is hard to say no in any context—especially to our children. Saying no is perceived as a denial of the power of God, a moralistic unkindness, or a lack of compassion. Regardless, we must be prepared to say no—as God does to us in His Word. In this episode of Out of Our Minds, Mary Lee Bayly joins her husband and our other fearless host, Andrew H…

Our children are in danger everywhere, both outside and inside the home. Some parents are oblivious to physical dangers; others desire to wrap their children from head to toe in bubble wrap before they send them out to play. Overprotection can sissify children, especially boys. Negligence and foolish risk-taking can kill them. Life is precious and …

Pastor Tim sat down again with pastor and economist Jürgen von Hagen to discuss the religion of global warming. It is the nature of mankind to want to be involved in something big. What's bigger than acting to save the Earth? Yet, basing our actions and governmental policies on scientific models is a complicated venture. What does Scripture say abo…

Out of Our Minds is back. Andrew Henry is our new co-host, but this episode Pastor Bayly is with Pastor Juergen Von Hagen and, because Tim and Juergen were up in Michigan, Andrew was not able to join them. Our subject is refugees, immigration, and migration. Out of Our Minds is a production of New Geneva Academy. Are you interested in preparing for…

Out of Our Minds is back with a new voice. Mr. Andrew Henry—entrepreneur, musician, and all-around curious man—will join Pastor Tim Bayly for the upcoming episodes. Sometime soon we'll have Mr. Henry introduce himself on the podcast. Today's episode answers, "Does it take a church to raise a child?" When parents enter new territory with teenagers, …

Pastor Tim sat down again with pastor and economist Jürgen von Hagen to discuss the religion of global warming. It is the nature of mankind to want to be involved in something big. What's bigger than acting to save the Earth? Yet, basing our actions and governmental policies on scientific models is a complicated venture. What does Scripture say abo…

We can learn a lot from what happened in post-Soviet Russia society. They tried the whole cut-men-out-of-everything thing. It didn't work. And it had repercussions. And we can learn what happens when we reject authority (hint: maybe we get Joe Biden for a while, but maybe we also get Stalin). ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★…