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(178) War in the Real World: What Critics of Israel Don’t Understand, with Colonel John Spencer
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50:29In this powerful episode, Rabbi Pesach Wolicki and Pastor Doug Reed speak with Colonel John Spencer—Chair of Urban Warfare Studies at West Point and a globally recognized expert on modern combat—to unpack the complexities of Israel's war against Hamas. Colonel Spencer offers a clear-eyed analysis of urban warfare, the ethical challenges faced by de…
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Passover and a Christian Seder: Why Are Some Jews Upset? (SHOULDER TO SHOULDER CLASSIC EPISODE)
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49:30Doug and Pesach explore a major Jewish Holiday journeying through the Seder meal, symbolism, traditions, and the personal nature of Passover. Doug asks questions and shared his experience of hosting a “Christian” Seder dinner at his church while Pesach responds to this idea.By Pesach Wolicki and Doug Reed
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(177) Why God Was Right: How The Torah and Modern Sociological Research Converge, with Mark Gerson
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42:38In this fascinating episode, Pesach and Doug sit down with entrepreneur, philanthropist, and best-selling author Mark Gerson. Mark is the co-founder and chairman of United Hatzalah of Israel, a revolutionary volunteer emergency medical service saving lives every day. He also co-founded African Mission Healthcare, a groundbreaking organization that …
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(176) From Hoops to Hasbara: Training NBA Stars & Advocating for Israel with Barak Swarttz
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42:33In this episode of Shoulder to Shoulder, Pesach and Doug sit down with Barak Swarttz—elite basketball trainer, social media influencer, and passionate Israel advocate. Barak shares his journey from spending two formative years in Jerusalem as a child to training over 20 NBA players and using basketball as a bridge for meaningful conversations about…
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(175) How to Win the Culture War: with Pastor Stephen Martin
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45:36Doug and Pesach sit down with Pastor Stephen Martin of Vintage Church, a fast-growing multi-campus in Texas. Stephen shares about his connection to Israel, his bold approach to politics and faith, and most of all, his monumental decision to start a full K through 12 school out of his church. In a world where secular ideologies dominate education, C…
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(174) Throwing Back Grenades: Human Miracles of October 7th
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26:49Pesach flies solo and welcomes Sara Lamm, author of Into The Fire: Stories of Heroism from October 7th, published by Israel365. And Pesach also shares his thoughts on the US attacks on the Houthis, and some controversy surrounding the ongoing elections for the World Zionist Congress.By Pesach Wolicki and Doug Reed
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(173) Remembering Who We Are: A Conversation with Member of Knesset Ohad Tal
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39:48In this episode, Pesach and Doug sit down with Member of Knesset Ohad Tal to discuss the critical issues facing Israel today—from the ongoing threats of Hamas and Syria to a groundbreaking new bill in the Israeli parliament seeking to extend Israeli sovereignty over Judea and Samaria. Whether he's defending Israel against its enemies or reclaiming …
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(172) A Call for Christians to Radically Show Up for Zion
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44:16Israel support among Christians is aging—but can the next generation carry the torch? In this episode, Doug and Pesach sit down with Dimas Guaico of Generation Zion to explore how his movement is mobilizing Gen Z and Gen Alpha to stand with Israel on college campuses across the U.S. We discuss the shifting demographics of Christian Zionism, the cha…
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(171) Choosing Between Bad and Worse (But Better Than Before): Analyzing Israel's War with Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran with Elliot Chodoff
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45:50Doug and Pesach welcome back IDF Reserve Major Elliot Chodoff to discuss the current ceasefire - what Elliot calls "Halftime" - and what is likely to happen next. Together they delve into the complex and controversial hostage deal between Israel and Hamas, analyzing the potential long-term implications of releasing 1,700 Hamas terrorists and questi…
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(170) "Not What I Need, But What I'm Needed For": Psychotherapy for the Spirit with Dr. Daniel Schonbuch
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41:17In this thought-provoking episode, Pesach and Doug sit down with psychologist Dr. Daniel Schonbuch for a deep dive into the world of psychology, therapy, and the wisdom of Viktor Frankl. They explore why people of faith sometimes hesitate to seek counseling, the misconceptions surrounding therapy, and how a purpose-driven mindset can transform live…
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(169) "No More wishful Thinking in the Middle East": A conversation with Yoram Ettinger
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46:17After celebrating the Super Bowl win of Doug's beloved Eagles, Pesach and Doug are joined by former Isrseli Ambassador and veteran Middle East expert Yoram Ettinger for a deep dive into the current state of the Middle East. Yoram cautions President Trump to not fall prey to the mistaken assumptions that have failed previous Western leaders. You don…
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(168) "The Progressive Left is a Religion": A Conversation with Daniel Greenfield
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36:08Doug and Pesach sit down with investigative journalist Daniel Greenfield of the Frontpage Magazine and The Horowitz Freedom Center. Daniel shares his wealth of knowledge and expert analysis on the topic of the Left in America and around the world. Although the Progressive Left movement appears fairly new, in truth, he demonstrates that the principl…
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(167) Thinking About Israel Every. Single. Day... A Conversation with Rabbi Tuly Weisz
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47:01Pesach and Doug sit down with Rabbi Tuly Weisz, founder and director of Israel365, to discuss how he started working in Jewish Christian relations as a rabbi of a synagogue in Columbus, Ohio. This led him to launch Israel365, an organization that focuses on what God focuses on every day: the Land of Israel. Learn about Israel365's newest initiative…
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(166) The Ceasefire Between Israel and Hamas: Did Israel Lose (and How Can Israel Win)?
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57:35Doug and Pesach discuss the complex and controversial ceasefire-hostage deal recently signed between Israel and Hamas. Is the release of 1700 Hamas terrorists going to cost more Israeli lives in the future than those being released in this deal? Do the terms of the deal tie Israel's hands, making the goal of destroying Hamas unreachable? Will Netan…
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(165) Transgenderism and the Sexualization of Our Children
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51:27Pesach and Doug dive into a gut-wrenching conversation with Christian Post opinion writer and social commentator Brandon Showalter regarding his latest article, "No, gender doctors, kids don't have 'autonomy' to self-sterilize." Make no mistake, the fight is on for the next generation, and there is lots of money and a whole system determined to tak…
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Pesach and Doug sit down with David Lange of Isreally Cool to discuss a crazy year of antisemitism. They spend a good deal of time discussing Candace Owens's antisemitism, and then a few more lesser known people on the political right who exposed themselves this year as antisemites, from an MMA fighter to others.…
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Everyone has seen the destructive powers of wokeness on the left, but does a parallel and dangerous brand of wokeness exist on the right, as well? Karys Rhea, editor of Epoch Times, argues that it does in her important article, "'America First' Divided: Why Trump and his men must guard against woke Right that mimics woke Left." Pesach and Doug sit …
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In this episode, Pesach and Doug dive into a thought-provoking article from The Free Press written by an atheist mother who now regrets stripping her family’s holiday celebrations of their religious roots. Can a holiday still hold deep meaning when its spiritual essence is removed? The discussion explores whether it’s possible to celebrate religiou…
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Pesach and Doug speak to Andrew Fox, the lead researcher on a groundbreaking report released by the Henry Jackson Society, that highlights the casualty numbers coming out of Gaza since October 7, 2023. The report separates facts from fiction, and is particularly powerful in that it uses Hamas’s own data, thus avoiding random speculation. Listen and…
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(160) EMERGENCY EPISODE: WHAT DOES THE FALL OF ASSAD MEAN FOR ISRAEL?
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39:57Pesach and Doug try to make sense of the chaos in Syria. After Pesach interviews mideast expert Dr. Mordechai Kedar, Elliot Chodoff weighs in with his usual in-depth and wide-ranging analysis of the complex situation caused by the greatest geopolitical crisis the Middle East has seen in decades.By Pesach Wolicki and Doug Reed
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(159) An Injured Soldier's Story: A conversation with Jonathan Benhamou
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46:32Pesach flies solo (with Doug unavailable due to a massive snowstorm) and has a conversation with Jonathan Benhamou, a commander in the IDF combat engineer corps who lost his leg in Gaza. Jonathan's story of courage and perseverance is a reminder that there are thousands of injured heroes who need our support. Also, DON'T MISS, Pesach's deep dive ex…
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(158) Exposing Palestinian Lies and Duplicity, with Itamar Marcus of Palestinian Media Watch
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43:02While Israel is at war with the Iranian axis, including Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis, the Biden administration insists that a peaceful Middle East requires Israel to engage with a reformed Palestinian Authority. But how different is the PA from other terrorist organizations? Is there a realistic chance that it can serve as a viable peace partn…
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(157) Is Russia Helping Hezbollah? WAR UPDATE with Maj. Elliot Chodoff
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47:03IDF Reserve Major and military and Mideast expert Elliot Chodoff joins Doug and Pesach for a comprehensive update on the progress of Israel's war with Hamas and Hezbollah. With the Biden administration winding down and Iran's proxies scrambling to survive, the Middle East is as fragile as ever. Elliot, Doug, and Pesach clear the fog and make sense …
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(156) Will Trump bring peace to the Middle East and end the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict? A conversation with Ambassador Danny Ayalon
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38:34Pesach and Doug sit down with former Israelil Ambassador to the United States Danny Ayalon to discuss the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict. The ambassador takes us into the room and behind the scenes in Oslo, Norway as he was part of the peace negotiations in 1993 with Yassar Arafat, Yitzak Rabin, and Bill Clinton. He also played a role in the decision…
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(155) Too Big to Rig: Donald J. Trump is the 47th President of the USA
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36:47Pesach and Doug dive into a special election episode the day after Donald Trump won the presidency for the 2nd time. Despite all the odds, the mainstream media, Democrats swapping candidates, legal action against him, and assasination attempts, he won both the electoral college and the popular vote. Pesach and Doug examine the data and what they se…
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(154) Testimony of a Holocaust Victim and Survivor: The Story of Sami Steigmann, and Why It Still Matters
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45:18Pesach and Doug have the honor of speaking with Sami Steigmann, a survivor of the Holocaust. Sami’s journey is quite unlike many other survivor stories; he was an infant during World War II, and has no direct memories of his time in the concentration camp. He recounts the personal history that he has been able to piece together over the years, shar…
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(153) Israel is Changing the Alliances of the Middle East
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54:12Pesach and Doug sit down with Middle East Analyst Dr. David Wurmser, who served as a senior advisor in both the Bush and Trump administrations, to discuss Israel, Iran, the USA, the Abraham Accords, and the future of the Middle East.By Pesach Wolicki and Doug Reed
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(152) Doug and his Family Experience Israel
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54:57Listen to this conversation as Doug, his wife (Sam), his mom (Sueann), and his 4 children (Charlotte, Graham, Benjamin, and Abraham) unpack their Israel experience on their last night in Israel. Sitting around the table in the air BnB in Tel Aviv they discuss some of their favorite moments, favorite foods, as well as answer some questions like, did…
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(151) One Year Since October 7th: A Report from Jerusalem
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52:24Pesach and Doug sit down with Stephen & Veronica Jenks in person in Jerusalem. Stephen and Veronica recount the Jewish-Christian relationship from their vantage point with Eagles Wings, and the dynamic shift that has taken since October 7th. Veronica toured the carnage and results of the terrorist attack a year later at a kibbutz, the nova festival…
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After Doug gets the inside scoop on Pesach’s recent tour of the U.S., Elliot Chodoff joins us to break down everything happening in Israel's war against Hezbollah. The situation is fluid and there is a huge amount of disinformation; this is an opportunity to get authentic information and deep analysis from a true Israeli military expert. DO NOT MIS…
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(149) Taking your kids to Israel in the middle of a war?
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26:06Doug sits down with his wife and kids as they are two weeks away from joining almost 100 pilgrims for Eagles Wings Solidarity Tour to Israel. This is the kids' first big international trip and comes at a crucial time in Israel’s history. Doug asks them a series of questions and they answer honestly around the dining room table. Listen in and find o…
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(148) The Story of One of Israel’s Heroes: Yosef Malachi Guedalia (of blessed memory)
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46:11Pesach and Doug sit down with Asher Guedalia, as he shares the story of his brother Yosef’s heroism on October 7th. Just hours after Hamas rockets were launched and terrorists began infiltrating Israel on that fateful day, Yosef responded like so many reservists by reporting to his unit. He and his fellow soldiers rushed to one of the kibbutzim alo…
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(147) One State Solution: An Interview with Ambassador David Friedman
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44:43Pesach and Doug sit down with the former United States Ambassador to Israel, David Friedman, and get his thoughts about Israel, the future of the Abraham accords, and the role of scripture in geopolitics. He also talks about his just-released book, One Jewish State: The Last, Best Hope to Resolve the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict, and the importance…
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(146) Is This the Biblical End Times War?
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44:21Doug and Pesach host Rabbi Elie Mischel of Israel365, author of the new book "The War Against the Bible," where he explains that the current alliance between the atheist Left and Jihadist Islam is actually a fulfilment of Biblical prophecy. Who is Esau in the book of Obadiah? How does Daniel's vision describe what we see in the headlines? Rabbi Mis…
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(145) Israel is the Future: A Conversation with David P. Goldman
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47:47Pesach and Doug sit down with economic strategist and author David P. Goldman. David shares his inspiring religious journey from his days as a non-practicing Jew from a liberal family, to his life today as an observant Modern Orthodox scholar with a special expertise in the works of Rabbi Joseph B. Soloveitchik. The conversation pivots to his artic…
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(144) God's Throne: All Eyes on the Temple Mount
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36:49Whether you're Jewish, Christian, or Muslim, the end of all things revolves around Jerusalem. Perhaps different people have different reasons, but all eyes remain on Jerusalem. Just before Tisha B’Av, Pesach and Doug sat down with John Enarson of Cry for Zion to discuss the importance of the rebuilding of the Temple... for Christians, as well as Je…
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(143) An Arms Race of Extremism: Troubling Trends in the Muslim and Woke Worlds, with Asra Nomani
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52:41Doug and Pesach sit down with journalist, author, and activist Asra Nomani. Asra tells her story of growing up in a traditional Muslim family, becoming a renowned journalist, and experiencing the horrors of extremist Islam up close when her dear friend Daniel Pearl was murdered. We also discussed Asra's fearless work exposing the people and organiz…
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(142) 2000 Years Ago... Yet More Relevant Than Ever
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36:54What happens when a commemoration of an event from thousands of years ago suddenly acquires new and immediate relevance? That was the experience of many Jews in Israel when they fasted last week on the 17th of Tammuz - the day that the Romans breached the walls of Jerusalem about 1950 years ago. Of course, after October 7th, "breaching the walls" h…
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(141) Hamas, Hezbollah, and Houthis, OH MY!: War Update with Maj. Elliot Chodoff
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42:30With Pastor Doug unavailable this week, Pesach sits down with Maj Elliot Chodoff for an in-depth update on the progress of Israel’s war for survival. Is Hamas almost gone? How much damage has Israel caused to Hezbollah? What are the implications of the current US political chaos? All this and more on this timely episode.…
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(140) Is the GOP Moving Away from Israel? A Report from the Republican National Convention
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39:28Pesach and Doug catch up on a busy news cycle as Pesach takes in the Republican Convention in Milwaukee. They begin with a discussion of the terrible assassination attempt on President Trump in Pennsylvania, and then offer their hot takes on Trump's selection for Vice President, Senator J.D. Vance. The conversation concludes with an in depth discus…
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(139) The Soviet Roots of Anti-Israel Propaganda
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42:28Unfortunately, each of us is currently watching a very old story play out again in 2024: the worldwide rise in antisemitic propaganda, antisemitic beliefs, and antisemitic actions. Pesach and Doug sit down with Izabella Tabarovsky to discuss how the current wave has its origins as Soviet-backed antisemitism and Marxist-led antizionism. It's not eno…
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(138) “Actively Engaging in the Storyline of God”: The Israel Journey of Markus McFolling
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42:16Doug and Pesach sit down with Markus McFolling to hear his Israel journey. Markus speaks to hundreds of thousands of Gen Z'ers every year as he crisscrosses the nation from high schools to camps to conferences. Israel was never a part of his theology or vocabulary until a trip to Israel in 2022 with Eagles Wings. On that trip he was touched deeply …
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(137) My Politics Made Me a Better Jew: A Conversation with Josh Hammer
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49:36Pesach and Doug sit down with Josh Hammer, Senior Editor at Large at Newsweek and host of the Josh Hammer Show to discuss his faith and journey. As the conversation takes shape Josh explains that it was a trip to Israel and his politics that ultimately lead him to be more religiously observant after being raised in a Reform Jewish home. His unique …
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SHOULDER TO SHOULDER CLASSIC: Christianity is NOT the New Israel: Why Replacement Theology is Wrong
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46:39In this episode, Pesach flies solo and has a conversation with one of America's leading academic theologians, Professor Gerald McDermott. The topic is the long-held Christian position that the church has replaced the Jewish people as God's covenant people. Prof. McDermott explains how this anti-Jewish theology began, why it is wrong, and how Christ…
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(136) Rescued hostages and turmoil in Israel’s government
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42:24Pesach and Doug deal with a busy news cycle, first discussing the heroic hostage rescue by the IDF, and then analyzing what that operation might mean for future hostage operations. Afterwards they pivot to Benny Gantz’s withdrawal from the unity government. What are its ramifications? Will there be new elections anytime soon, and would that be good…
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Doug and Pesach are joined by our good friend, military analyst and res. Maj. Elliot Chodoff. As always, Elliot brings us up to date with the progress of Israel's war against the Hamas. What is the meaning of what we've learned about Egypt's complicity in arming Hamas? What effect is US pressure having on the war? And what about the escalation of h…
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(134) Replacement Theologian to Christian Zionist: A Pastor's Journey
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55:25Pesach and Doug sit down with Pastor Micah Wood to hear his incredible journey from being a pastor who, for a decade, was theologically opposed to Israel, due to the influence of prominent theologian NT Wright and a replacement theology upbringing, to now being an ardent Israel supporter and Zionist working for Eagles Wings. Listen in to find out h…
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(133) Pro-Hamas Thugs Mainstream Nashville Israel Event for the Israel Guys
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31:36Pesach and Doug sit down with Joshua Waller from the Israel Guys to talk about the first Annual Israel Summit being canceled by the Sonesta Hotel in Nashville due to violent threats made by Pro-Hamas/Anti-American thugs. What our enemies meant for evil, God has used for our good. With the help of Gov. Bill Lee, Dave Ramsey, and the Nashville Police…
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(132) Genocide in Gaza? What We Can Learn from the Rwandan Genocide, the Role of the UN, and a Deep dive Discussion with Ben Poser
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52:04Genocide is a term flying around the social media space and on the nightly news. Pesach and Doug sit down with journalist Ben Poser to talk about the concept of genocide and all that is associated with it. Ben gives a modern history of ignored genocide, and slavery taking place in Africa predominantly in Muslim countries. He looks at the Rwandan Ge…
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(131) Eschatology and the Danger of Dividing God’s Land
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38:17Pesach and Doug discuss Doug’s recent trip to Washington DC for the national day of prayer, his experience walking through a Gaza encampment on George Washington University, and an encounter with protesters outside the Israeli Embassy. The conversation then pivots to the biblical warning in Joel 3 to not divide God’s land and how there is not a Bib…
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