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Chapel Probation

Scott Okamoto

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As a Dauntless Media podcast, this is a companion to Scott's forthcoming book about losing faith while teaching at an evangelical university. This podcast will feature former students and faculty of Azusa Pacific University. They will tell stories of racism, sexism, hatred towards the LGBTQ community, and early alt-right shenanigans. Other guests outside of the APU world will also be invited to share their experiences. Join the growing Chapel Probation community on Instagram, Discord, and Fa ...
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By Rev Charlie Lacey | Luke 1: 57-80 Luke 1: 57-80 (NIV) God had been silent for 400 years, and then, all of a sudden, Jesus’ birth narrative begins - and various people are filled with the H/S, burst into song, and prophesy. Today we focussed on Zechariah (the father of John the Baptiser), who reminds us that Jesus saves us from something, but he …
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By Rev Charlie Lacey | Luke 1: 39-56 Luke 1: 39-56 (NIV) On this first Sunday of Advent we began a new series called, ‘Songs of Advent’. Luke includes four songs in the first two chapters of his Gospel. Mary, Zechariah, the angels, and Simeon, all break into song. And over the next four weeks we’ll see that their song is also our song – as we celeb…
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By Rev Charlie Lacey | Genesis 6: 1-8 Genesis 6: 1-8 (NIV) We’ve come to the second of our two-part mini-series called ‘Perplexing Passages’; and today we were looking at the time in Genesis when humanity had become so evil that the Lord decided to destroy everything with a flood. At this point, we’re told about some mysterious people, called the N…
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Soulforce has been a big part of the stories coming out of Azusa Pacific University throughout this podcast. From the guests who attended the events on campus to the subsequent generations who banded together to start a movement, Soulforce is part of the DNA of Chapel Probation. So it was a thrill to be able to work with Rev Alba all year at Axis M…
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By Rev Charlie Lacey | Number 22: 21-35 Numbers 22: 21-35 (NIV) The book of Numbers does not begin with the words, “Once Upon a Time.” In fact, the genre of Numbers is historical narrative and law. So, what is a talking donkey doing in this book? Today, we explored this question as part of our 'Perplexing Passages' mini-series.…
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By Rev Charlie Lacey | Philippians 4: 10-23 Philippians 4: 10-23 (NIV) Over the past seven weeks, we've explored Paul’s letter to the Philippians. A letter that’s full of joy, even though Paul wrote it from prison. Paul’s relationship with the Philippians is one of mutual love, affection, concern and support. It is a partnership in the strongest se…
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By Rev Charlie Lacey | Philippians 4: 4-9 Philippians 4: 4-9 (NIV) A lot of Christians don’t seem to realise that following Jesus is completely radical. The life he calls us to is very different from what our culture teaches or expects of us. And if we’re going to live in a way that goes against the grain of the world – we must first win the battle…
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As I prepare to go on vacation, I recap the rise of today's MAGA madness that we witnessed in the early 2000's. From the usual racism and acceptance of swastikas to the White-centric hypocrisy of marginalizing BIPOC traditions and centering White ones considered non-Christian. Join the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dauntless Media Discord ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠…
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By Rev Charlie Lacey | Philippians 3:10 – 4:3 Philippians 3:10 – 4:3 (NIV) Paul wrote his letter to the Philippians from prison, yet it was full of joy and hope. How is that possible? Well, because he was ‘living up’ to what he had already attained in Christ. Resurrection life is an absolute certainty – but we don’t always live as if it is. We need…
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Virginia Duan is the biggest BTS fan I've ever encountered. I do not understand this. But I also know she is one of the best and biggest baddasses I've ever met. Her story of overcoming fundamentalist christianity, a violent father, and racial discrimination is inspiring. It makes me want to keep fighting. And maybe listen to some BTS. Check out he…
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by Archbishop Jeremy Greaves | Philippians 3:1-14 Philippians 3:1-14 (NIV) In today’s passage, Paul makes it clear that our confidence should not be in ourselves. Instead, we put our confidence in Jesus. He wants to change and transform our lives, and ultimately, he’s made a way for us to experience resurrection life, with him forever. Archbipisop …
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I'm kinda hoping hardly anyone listens to this wide-ranging episode about diversity, or lack thereof, in the deconstruction world. The solution is simple. More BIPOC folks need to create content. I do criticize some creators, but I mostly want to celebrate you, the Chapel Probation listener. The criticisms herein are not about you. If you listen to…
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By Rev Charlie Lacey | Philippians 2: 12-30 Philippians 2: 12-30 (NIV) Today's passage began with Paul telling the Philippians to ‘work out their salvation with fear and trembling’. He then gives two examples of men who were doing just that, Timothy and Epaphroditus. Two amazing servant-hearted men, who gave their all to spreading the good news of …
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By Rev Charlie Lacey | Philippians 2:1-11 Philippians 2:1-11 Jesus was the most joyful person who ever lived, and if we want to experience true joy, we must have the same mindset as Jesus. The world tells us that we find happiness and fulfilment when we focus on ourselves. The Bible says something very different. The Bible says that joy is found in…
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This week we have a very different experience in academia with Dr. James Lee. He tells his story of growing christian, how he got out, and how he found his way as a philosophy professor in a real university (as opposed to pretend evangelical ones). It's an amazing conversation about getting out of church, teaching, and life as an AAPI professor tod…
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If you've read my book, you know I had some tough times teaching at Azusa Pacific University. But Dr. Sara Moslener has experienced even worse at a public university. She has had to adjust her pedagogy to survive, but she's still teaching incredibly important material centered on Christian purity culture, and she has a forthcoming book, After Purit…
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People are asking how their friends and family could possibly like a person like Charlie Kirk. Scott talks about the reasons for this bending the knee to a horrible human being by otherwise "nice" or "good" people. And he talks about what pushing back looks like in your inner circles. There is a price to pay, for sure. But it's worth it if you have…
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We're back to Biola this week...kinda. Yes, Lacey Bond attended that school and was a "good" christian woman who followed all the rules. But while there, she was encouraged to ask questions and think creatively. This would prove lethal to her closely held fundamentalist, purity culture-soaked faith. It would eventually lead her to question everythi…
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Alycea, aka Transvangelical, is here this week to talk about her life and her forthcoming book, On Your Knees: The 69 Day Irreverent Devotional. Here is the book description: On Your Knees: The 69-Day Irreverent Devotional is a raw, humorous, and unflinching journey through the Bible, designed for those who have been harmed by traditional religious…
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Scott met Greg Corricello while at UC San Diego as Inter-Varsity Christian Fellowship (IVCF) leaders. They played on the worship team together and shared a large, supportive community of christians on "secular," science-heavy campus. We saw ourselves as being on the front lines of radical christian living. But Greg went on to gradually deconstruct …
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We wanted to give our reactions to the passing of the architect of today's conservative tyranny, Dr. James Dobson. We share our experiences, give a nod of support to the survivors of the abusive, self-hateful, queerphobic, misogynistic, and all-around bigoted teachings of this man. It's not so much a celebration as it is a solemn acknowledgement th…
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We watched the doc. And goddamn. Christians are not ok. We talk about this particular Christian cult, purity culture, and how we got where we are as a nation. Chapel Probation is part of the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dauntless Media Collective⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dauntless Media Discord ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠…
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The Deconstruction world is dominated by progressive Christians, and while that's all well and good, I do not understand it. Maybe it's because I'm Japanese and could never imagine pushing a definition of christianity on the world. To be sure, I got tired of trying to define my faith, my identity, and my community while I was a christian. But the g…
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By Rev Charlie Lacey | Philippians 3: 1-14 Philippians 3: 1-14 (NIV) There will be things that we’re trying to achieve today – and there will be things that we’re trying to achieve in life more generally. But how much do our achievements contribute to our identity - and are we trying to achieve the things that God wants us to achieve?…
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Dr. Daniel White Hodge returns to Chapel Probation. We talk about our usual gripes with race and how we BIPOC men get overlooked by most of the world. But Dan has been on an incredible healing journey of late, and he shares insights in overcoming trauma caused by violence (because America) and religion. His 8th season of the Profane Faith podcast j…
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We interviewed ⁠Janice Selbie⁠ earlier this year, and we signed up to attend the ⁠Shameless Sexuality conference⁠ that she organizes. And we were pleasantly surprised to get an invite from Janice to speak at the conference, which was held virtually back in May. We brought our humor and insight to the event, shedding light on purity culture through …
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By Rev Mike Uptin | 2 Corinthians 5: 16-21 2 Corinthians 5: 16-21 (NIV) We began a new series today called, ‘Who Am I?’ The question of our identity has never been more important – and, in our culture, it’s never been more confused. Over the next eight weeks we’re seeking to get a biblical understanding of our identity, and particularly our identit…
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When one becomes indoctrinated into conservative christianity at a young age, that person usually does everything possible to adhere to the teachings and values that ultimately cause harm. Celeste Irwin did everything she could as a cis-het man, even joining a church plant for what she later learned was an insidious cult. But once she extricated he…
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I always knew Joh Chase would be a guest on Chapel Probation. They were one of the most influential people to come out of APU, and they are exquisitely talented. As a guitarist, singer, and songwriter, for my money, Joh is one of the best I've ever seen. And there's a reason we are still friends after meeting in 2005 during their sophomore year. Lo…
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Content Warning for descriptions of assault and rape. This week we go to the "Harvard" of Evangelical schools, which is not really a thing. But we go to Wheaton and learn from semi-anonymous guest, Andrea, that the patriarchal systems in place protect men and harm women when it comes to harassment and assault. And at every instance, Christian women…
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By Rev Charlie Lacey | Luke 4:1-13 Luke 4:1-13 (NIV) We started a new mini-series today called the ‘Fruit of the Spirit’. When we give our lives to Jesus and receive the Holy Spirit, certain characteristics begin to develop in our lives. Over a three week period we’ll be looking at three aspects of the fruit of the Holy Spirit, starting today with …
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Despite leaving christianity years ago, Katie Malia has never needed to find community centered on deconstruction. She forged her own creative life without ExVangelical twitter, podcasts, or White influencers. Not even Brian Recker! Gasp. Nope. Katie found life and community in the arts, comedy, and music. You've seen her on tv commercials. She's o…
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By Rev Charlie Lacey | Genesis 18: 20 – 19: 17 Genesis 18: 20 – 19: 17 (NIV) We worship a just God—who does not overlook evil. Today, we confronted one of Scripture's most harrowing episodes: the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. Yet even in judgment, God's mercy breaks through, as seen in his rescue of Lot and his family. This passage ultimately …
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3rd-generation Angeleno Mike Sonksen, aka Mike the PoeT, is an acclaimed poet, professor, journalist, historian and tour guide whose work has appeared in publications like the Academy of American Poets, Alta, PBS So Cal, Poetry Foundation and Westways. Sonksen’s read poetry at over 100 academic institutions, appeared on radio and television and hos…
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by Rev Charlie Lacey | Genesis 17: 1-27 Genesis 17: 1-27 (NIV) In previous weeks we saw that God promised to give Abraham countless descendants and ratified it with a covenant. Today we focussed on the final stage of the covenant making process. 2000 years later, Jesus fulfilled God’s covenant with Abraham and brought in a new covenant. The sign of…
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With all the hell happening all around us, particularly in the LA area, it feels good to present this conversation that offers so much hope and mind-expanding ideas. Jess Grace Garcia is a badass who has made it their life mission to help queer people find healing and positive identity in life after fundamentalist faith. They've been all through th…
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by Rev Charlie Lacey | Genesis 16: 1-13 Genesis 16: 1-13 (NIV) God promised Abram and Sarai a son, but when nothing seemed to be happening they grew impatient and deviated from God’s plan (again) – and created all kinds of problems (again). But God remained faithful, not just to Abram and Sarai, but also to the slave girl, who got mixed up in their…
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Katie Hampton survived APU as a theater kid and pursued a life as a comedian, improviser, and now podcaster. Her deconstruction paved the way for finding humor as both a vocation and a tool for healing. Also a survivor of Scott's Introduction to Literature class, Katie has found a life outside of Christianity that has been so much fuller and, let's…
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