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#123 The Show Office - Ron Mack & Chelsea Ball, Marissa Cush & Nancy Jeske
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1:45:38In this episode, Kyle and Mark are joined by Ron Mack and Chelsea Ball from the Ohio State Fair, Marissa Cush with the Wilmington Classic, and Nancy Jeske, who brings a wealth of experience in both light horse and draft horse shows. We’re talking all things draft horse—what it really takes to put on a show, the unique challenges behind the scenes, …
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#122 Clydesdales & A Unique Opportunity - Richard Derrer
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1:49:35Kyle and Mark sit down with Richard Derrer, a seasoned farrier whose career has taken him from the cornfields of Indiana where he exhibited one of the all-time premier Clydesdale hitches to the high deserts of New Mexico where he continues his farrier career and cheers on his boys. Whether you're a horse lover, a fellow farrier, or just here for th…
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#121 Different Size. Same Goal - Bret Day
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1:20:52In this episode, Mark and Kyle sit down with Bret Day of Grey Ridge Farm—renowned trainer and horseman—to dive into the nuanced world of horse training. Bret shares his firsthand experience working with light horses. From finesse and agility to sheer strength and presence, we explore what it takes to bring out the best in each type of horse. Whethe…
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#120 Welcome to the Team - Sayge Madsen, Executive Director
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1:10:38Exciting news — the Classic Series has officially welcomed a new full-time executive director! Kyle and Mark recently sat down with Sayge Madsen to give her a chance to introduce herself to the draft horse community. She shared her background and gave us a glimpse into her vision for the future. Join us in giving Sayge a warm welcome to the team! P…
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#119 Not Your Average History Lesson - Dean Woodbury, Brian Coleman, & Alan Freitag
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1:46:30Let's take a deep dive into the history, the legends, and the unforgettable moments of the draft horse industry. In this episode, Kyle and Mark are joined by three mainstays of the sport—Dean Woodbury, Brian Coleman, and Alan Freitag—for a conversation that’s like a draft horse history lesson. These horsemen have seen it all, from the greatest hitc…
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#118 A Twelve Year Old Farrier - Dean & Kelly Woodbury
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1:03:43Kyle and Mark had the privilege of sitting down with two of the best in the business—Dean and Kelly Woodbury of Winchester, Indiana. With a lifetime of experience in the draft horse world, their passion and dedication have made them household names in the industry. Currently at the reins of the Blue Ribbon Days Percherons, Dean and Kelly continue t…
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#117 U.S. Army Caisson Detachment Returns (Part 2) - 3d U.S. Infantry Regiment
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1:18:48Here is part TWO of our talks with the Old Guard about the reestablishment of the caisson unit! Lieutenant Colonel Branden Quintana, Chester Weber, and Josh Minshull share insights on the unit’s rich history, its reinstatement over the past year, and the rigorous training required to prepare both horses and riders for their honored duties. Don't mi…
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#116 U.S. Army Caisson Detachment Returns (Part 1) - 3d U.S. Infantry Regiment
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1:12:13This interview was packed with so much valuable information that we had to split it into two parts! Join Kyle and Mark as they sit down with The Old Guard to discuss the return of the U.S. Army Caisson Detachment. Lieutenant Colonel Branden Quintana, Chester Weber, and Josh Minshull share insights on the unit’s rich history, its reinstatement over …
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#115 Do Your Job & Have A Good Time - Ura Hershberger, Kenan Mylander, Zac Hawkins
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1:52:59Everyone needs a good laugh now and then, and this episode is sure to deliver! Mark and Kyle sit down with Ura Hershberger, Kenan Mylander, and Zac Hawkins to discuss what it takes to be a great crew member and support the team. Of course, with this group, you can expect plenty of comic relief along the way. Tune in and enjoy! Thank you to our spon…
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#114 It's Easy to Add Two Horses, Right? - The Westerfeld Family
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1:05:53For many, family and the draft horse industry are deeply connected—and it's no different for the Westerfelds! Join Kyle and Mark as they share plenty of laughs with Travis, Shari, Hattie, and Ellie. Tune in to hear how their family has kept the love for horses alive across generations. Thank you to our sponsors of Episode #114! Shipshewana Harness …
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#113 Protect Your Investment - Ali Shiozawa, Plains Horizon Equine Insurance
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1:16:30Horses are a significant investment—so why not protect them? In this episode, Kyle and Mark sit down with Ali Shiozawa from Plains Horizon Equine Insurance to dive into the world of horse insurance. Ali breaks down the different coverage options, shares insightful tips, and even tells a few memorable stories. Don’t miss this informative discussion—…
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#112 Draft Horses are a Big Deal in Laporte Co. - Chad Mrozinski
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1:04:49LaPorte County, Indiana, boasts a rich history with draft horses, and its commitment to the future of the industry is evident through the local 4-H Draft Horse Club—one of the largest of its kind in the country. Chad Mrozinski, the program leader, recently sat down with us to share insights into the workings of this impressive program and how they …
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#111 A Vet Call Turns into a Belgian Mare - Dr. Michael Stone
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1:21:05If you know much about the Belgian breed, you are sure to have heard of Dr. Michael Stone, owner of Oak Haven Belgians! They guys were able to sit down with him and learn his unconventional story about how he began breeding horses. Listen in because you're sure to learn something new! Thank you to our sponsors of Episode #111! Shipshewana Harness &…
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#110 Recording the Industry's Milestones - Matt Steele and the Draft Horse Journal
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1:00:57The Draft Horse Journals has been a staple in our Industry for decades! We were able to sit down with Matt Steele, The new owner of the publication, to talk about what the magazine brings to the industry and what he has planned for the future! Thank you to our sponsors of Episode #110! Shipshewana Harness & Supplies Glenwood Snacks Pennwoods Equine…
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#109 Breeding Season is Almost Here - Rhonda & Chris Cole
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1:10:50It's never too early to start thinking about breeding season with your horses. Rhonda Cole and Chris Cole talk with us about how to prepare your horses, mares and stallions alike, for the 2025 breeding season. You don't want a late start, so listen in and see if you can learn a thing or two to set your horses up for success! Thank you to our sponso…
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It's election time again! Listen in to these interviews with the candidates running to fill the two board positions. Doyle Dingman, Bradley Glover, Scott Love, Mark Drummond and Jared Hanson were great to talk with! Thank you to our sponsors of Episode #108! Shipshewana Harness & Supplies Glenwood Snacks Pennwoods Equine Products INC. The Draft Hor…
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We hope everyone had a great time in Shipshewana at the World Finals. Listen in as we talk about the week and speak with our champions! Thank you to our sponsors of Episode #107! Shipshewana Harness & Supplies Glenwood Snacks Pennwoods Equine Products INC. Young Living Fall Festival The Draft Horse Journal Do you have suggestions for future episode…
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Listen for the the recap of Night Two at the 2024 World Finals Thank you to our sponsors of Episode #106! Shipshewana Harness & Supplies Glenwood Snacks Pennwoods Equine Products INC. Young Living Fall Festival The Draft Horse Journal Do you have suggestions for future episodes? Do you have ideas of someone we should have join us? Please send us an…
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Listen for the the recap of Night One at the 2024 World Finals Thank you to our sponsors of Episode #105! Shipshewana Harness & Supplies Glenwood Snacks Pennwoods Equine Products INC. Young Living Fall Festival The Draft Horse Journal Do you have suggestions for future episodes? Do you have ideas of someone we should have join us? Please send us an…
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#104 Your World Finalists - Youth Classic Cart, Classic Halter Series & Classic Cart Series
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46:28Listen in as Mark talks with qualifiers from the Youth Classic Cart Series, Classic Cart Series and Classic Halter Series! Thank you to our sponsors of Episode #104! Shipshewana Harness & Supplies Glenwood Snacks Pennwoods Equine Products INC. Young Living Fall Festival The Draft Horse Journal Do you have suggestions for future episodes? Do you hav…
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Listen in as Mark talks with all the 2024 qualifying drivers and they walk us through their road to the Finals! Thank you to our sponsors of Episode #103! Shipshewana Harness & Supplies Glenwood Snacks Pennwoods Equine Products INC. Young Living Fall Festival The Draft Horse Journal Do you have suggestions for future episodes? Do you have ideas of …
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#102 The Excitement is Building - 2024 Finals Preview
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54:14The Excitement is building in Shipshewana for the 2024 World Finals! From the Six-Horse Hitch, to Halter, to the Classic Cart, to the Youth Classic Cart everyone will be giving it their all to win their respective world title! Mark sat down with Bud Miller, Rod Kohler and David Mouland to discuss their thoughts on what it about to take place in Shi…
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#101 There's No I in Team - A Couples Episode
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1:09:55You asked for more, so here is another episode where we sat down with some couples in the draft horse industry! Thank you to Mark and Kaleigh Hochstetler, Kyle and Marcia Forsyth, Scott and Whitney Love and Ross and Nicole Honsberger for making their way to the studio to help us out with this episode! Thank you to our sponsors of Episode #101! Ship…
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#100 Larry Honsberger Stories Never Get Old
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1:30:06We made it to episode 100! We have had a blast with the first 99 episodes and we can't wait to keep bringing you more. You all voted and requested another Larry episode so here it is! We got to hear from his family and a number of his friends about a number of hilarious stories. NOTE: Some stories may not be appropriate for young ears so listen wit…
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#99 The Belgians will take over Springfield - NABC X Committee
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1:07:11The NABC is one of the most exciting Belgian show you can attend and it only happens every eight years! We sat down with the NABC X committee chairs, Scott Seymour and Justin Berry, as well as the Belgian Corporation secretary, Michelle Keaffaber. They fill us in on all things happening with the show and help us prepare to visit Springfield, IL in …
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#98 A Five Mile Trot - Andy Freitag
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1:32:42This guy has done it all and he is full of stories! Listen as Andy Freitag walks us through his career as a horseman and life all over North America! Thank you to our sponsors of Episode #98! Shipshewana Harness & Supplies Glenwood Snacks Pennwoods Equine Products INC. Young Living Fall Festival The Draft Horse Journal Do you have suggestions for f…
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#97 Boarded Up Bathrooms - Rick & Andrea Welsh
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1:25:31We love talking to people that are directly involved in the industry whether they've been involved for a lifetime or have recently entered in. Kyle & Mark sat down with Rick and Andrea Welsh, owners of the Topeka Livestock Auciton. Listen in to hear their story! PLUS listen to another Pennwood's Perspective with Chris Cole! Thank you to our sponsor…
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#96 Five Acre Ranch in Las Vegas - Pam Minick
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1:13:56We turned the tables on the one and only Pam Minick in this episode! Kyle and Mark were able to sit down and get her life story and there's no doubt that it is interesting. She has a ton of stories to tell! We cannot say THANK YOU enough to Pam for everything that she has done and will continue to do for the draft horse industry through her positio…
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#95 We Ran Out of Fuel...Twice! - Donnie Langille
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1:18:07Donnie Langille made some time to chat with Mark and Kyle and he was full of stories! From showing horses all over North America to watching Kyle with a runaway, he has experienced a lot during his lifetime in the horse industry. Listen in! Thank you to our sponsors of Episode #95! Shipshewana Harness & Supplies Glenwood Snacks Pennwoods Equine Pro…
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#94 You're Avoiding the Issue - Tom Duffy
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1:11:57This is a story we are sure you'll enjoy! Tom Duffy tells Kyle and Mark about how he got his start in the draft horse industry and just how his farm name, Avoidance Acres, came to be. There's a lot of laughs and some good lessons to learn in this episode! Thank you to our sponsors of Episode #94! Shipshewana Harness & Supplies Glenwood Snacks Pennw…
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#93 From Clydesdales to Four-in-Hand - Chester Weber
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1:42:27Mark and Kyle were able to sit down with Chester Weber of Live Oak in Ocala, Florida this week! Listen in and learn about Chester's early days showing Clydesdale geldings throughout North America and how he transitioned to competing in combined driving competitions worldwide. This episode is packed full and you won't want to miss it! Thank you to o…
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#92 The Halter Guys - Duane Miller, Robert Detweiler & Gary Nebergall
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1:42:25The Classic Halter Series is really taking off and the competition is high! We were able to sit down with Duane Miller, Robert Detweiler and Gary Nebergall and get their perspective on the halter ring. Listen in to learn about their thoughts on the line classes! Thank you to our sponsors of Episode #92! Shipshewana Harness & Supplies Glenwood Snack…
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#91 Barrel Horses, Belgians & A lot of Bits - The Brockhoff Family
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1:27:58We really enjoy getting to know the families in the draft horse industry and that's exactly what Mark and Kyle do on this episode! While everyone was in Arizona showing, they guys were able to sit down with the Brockhoff family. Dale, Tracie and Sarah tell us about how they started with a farm team and now campaign their own six-horse hitch! PLUS l…
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#90 What Does the Driver Think? - Travis Shaw, Wilbur Helmuth & Tim Sparrow
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1:27:42A few episodes ago we talked with some about judging and now Kyle and Mark were able to ask some questions and get answers from the driver's perspective. Travis, Wilbur and Tim talked about everything from buying horses from public sales, integrating new horses into your hitch and how they like judges to act! Thank you to our sponsors of Episode #9…
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#89 Roofing Nails for an Entire Year - Bret & Anette Fielding
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1:07:34Has anyone one else bought enough roofing nails for an entire year?? The Fieldings have! We had a great time sitting down with Bret and Annette and hearing their story. They take us through their journey of knowing no one in the draft horse industry to becoming a world champion six! Thank you to our sponsors of Episode #89! Shipshewana Harness & Su…
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#88 John Wayne Want To Bes - Jake, Enos & Freeman Yoder
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1:32:02If you know the Yoder brothers, you know this episode has some good stories in it! Listen in as Mark and Kyle get Jake, Enos & Freeman's stories of their times together from childhood and beyond. Thank you to our sponsors of Episode #88! Shipshewana Harness & Supplies Glenwood Snacks Pennwoods Equine Products INC. Crystal Springs Stables The Draft …
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#87 A Judge's Perspective - Randy Riemer, Brian Coleman & Gary Miller
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1:32:18Judging in the draft horse world has no set system, but we were able to chat with three respected judges and find out exactly what they look for at a show! Kyle and Mark were able to sit down with Randy Riemer, Brian Coleman & Gary Miller and ask some questions to get their inside perspective! Thank you to our sponsors of Episode #87! Shipshewana H…
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#86 Making a Scene in the Halter Ring - The Nebergalls
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1:32:46If you don't chuckle during this episode then you better check your sense of humor. Kyle and Mark got the Nebergall brothers on the phone and they were not short on stories! Listen in as Gary and Scott fill us in on the history of Nebergall Draft Horses and the friends and memories they have made in the draft horse industry. Thank you to our sponso…
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#85 Vet Talk - Breathing Issues in Draft Horses
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1:38:43Kyle and Mark sat down to talk with Dr. Kyle Heaton and Dr. Marc Desjardins about an issue that many draft horse exhibitors deal with! Listen in as these two discuss the ins and out of breathing issues in draft horses and what can be done about it! ALSO, don't forget to renew your membership before the end of the year! Thank you to our sponsors of …
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#84 Horses in the Backyard - Jonathan & Marissa Cush
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1:19:11Kyle and Mark were able to record an awesome episode with Jonathan and Marissa Cush of New Philadelphia, OH. They were full of stories from trees to shows to sales. Listen in to learn how they got their start in the draft horse industry! Plus it is time to start thinking about 2024! Reach out to Logan, Kyle or Mark if you are interested in joining …
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#83 Percherons on the Hill - Chad & Rhonda Cole
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1:26:11Kyle and Mark had the opportunity to sit down with Chad & Rhonda Cole of Pennwoods Percherons in Centre Hall, PA! These two are well known in and throughout the draft horse industry and they currently run and own one of the most prestigious Percheron breeding businesses in the world. They have some great stories to tell! PLUS, listen in for another…
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#82 A Congressman with Belgians - Don Sherwood
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1:03:06Kyle and Mark were able to sit down with Don Sherwood! Being a past congressman, entrepreneur and long-time Belgian breeder, Don has a lot of stories to tell! Plus Tim Myers, Classic Series Board of Directors member, talks about the by-law proposals to help clarify. Thank you to our sponsors of Episode #82! Shipshewana Harness & Supplies Twisted Lu…
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#81 Chatting with Champions - Your 2023 World Finals Champions
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1:32:44The 2023 World Finals were once again a great event! Kyle and Mark sat down with our World Champions for the year! Ross Honsberger and Tim Sparrow talk about the Six-Horse Hitch. Jaylon Herschberger and Allie Hussey give us the rundown on the Future Legends Youth Cart Class. Todd Jardine and Robert Detweiler tell us all about their halter champions…
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#80 Your Candidates for the Board of Directors
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54:38It is once again time to vote for the Board of Directors! This year we have three people that have put their name in the hat for the upcoming vacant position. Listen in as Kyle and Mark talk with Colleen Coleman, Justin Shaw and Sterling Deer. Thank you to our sponsors of Episode #80! Shipshewana Harness & Supplies Twisted Luck Carriages - Coyaltix…
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Here's the 2023 World Finals CHS Qualifiers! Thank you to our sponsors of Episode #79! Shipshewana Harness & Supplies Twisted Luck Carriages - Coyaltix North America Glenwood Snacks Pennwoods Equine Products INC. Young Living Percherons Summit Professional Services Do you have suggestions for future episodes? Do you have ideas of someone we should …
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Here's the 2023 World Finals Round One recap! Thanks to Rod Kohler and Jake Yoder for hopping on with us! Thank you to our sponsors of Episode #78! Shipshewana Harness & Supplies Twisted Luck Carriages - Coyaltix North America Glenwood Snacks Pennwoods Equine Products INC. Young Living Percherons Summit Professional Services Do you have suggestions…
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It is the 2023 WORLD FINALS WEEK! Kyle and Jarron sat down with Sarah Brockhoff and Merv Hershberger to chat about the 2023 qualifiers. They talk in depth about what it's like to compete in the Finals and who they feel has set themselves up for success throughout 2023! Thank you to our sponsors of Episode #77! Shipshewana Harness & Supplies Twisted…
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It is the 2023 WORLD FINALS WEEK! Listen in as Jarron and Kyle chat with each of the 15 Qualifying drivers! Thank you to our sponsors of Episode #76! Shipshewana Harness & Supplies Twisted Luck Carriages - Coyaltix North America Glenwood Snacks Pennwoods Equine Products INC. Young Living Percherons Summit Professional Services Do you have suggestio…
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#75 What to Expect During the Finals - The Minshulls and a Pennwoods Perspective
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55:06We're one week away from the 2023 World Finals! We were able to sit down with Josh and Laura Minshull, 2023 hosts, and get a quick rundown of what to expect next week! We also have another Pennwoods Perspective special as well as some mailbag questions! Thank you to our sponsors of Episode #75! Shipshewana Harness & Supplies Twisted Luck Carriages …
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#74 Straight from the Horse's Mouth - Kevin Paul & Sheila Grange
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1:33:43The guys sat down with Kevin Paul and Sheila Grange to talk all about bits! These two possess a wealth of knowledge when it comes to bitting your horse. Listen in to learn some tips and tricks to help your horse drive better and happier! Thank you to our sponsors of Episode #74! Shipshewana Harness & Supplies Twisted Luck Carriages - Coyaltix North…
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