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On the Journey, Episode 169: The Limits of Sola Scriptura – Sola Scriptura 2.0, Part X 46:38

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Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley, and Kenny Burchard continue their series looking at how they began to rethink their commitment to the Bible alone as the sole and sufficient rule for faith and practice. Kenny Burchard shares a list of some key things that the Bible can't tell you using only the principle of sola Scriptura, and Matt Swaim shares how Flanner…

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On the Journey, Episode 168: Does Sola Scriptura Make Sense? – Sola Scriptura 2.0, Part IX 1:14:27

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Former Protestant pastors Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series looking at how they began to rethink their commitment to the Bible alone as the sole and sufficient rule for faith and practice. Matt, Ken, and Kenny spent previous episodes looking at whether or not the Reformation doctrine of "sola Scriptura" is workable, whether or no…

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On the Journey, Ep 167: Were the Church Fathers "Bible Christians?" – Sola Scriptura 2.0, Part VIII 1:10:37

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Former Protestant pastors Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series looking at how they began to rethink their commitment to the Bible alone as the sole and sufficient rule for faith and practice. Matt, Ken, and Kenny did deeper into the historical practice of the earliest Christians, and look at what primary sources can tell us about th…

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On the Journey, Episode 166: Is Sola Scriptura Historical? – Sola Scriptura 2.0, Part VII 1:01:47

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Former Protestant pastors Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series looking at how they began to rethink their commitment to the Bible alone as the sole and sufficient rule for faith and practice. Matt, Ken, and Kenny look back at the history of the early Church to ask some key questions about "sola Scriptura." For instance, why did it t…

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On the Journey, Episode 165: The Bereans and 2 Timothy 3:16 – Sola Scriptura 2.0, Part VI 1:00:22

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Former Protestant pastors Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series looking at how they began to rethink their commitment to the Bible alone as the sole and sufficient rule for faith and practice. The two passages of Scripture most often cited in defense of sola Scriptura are the account of the "noble Bereans" in Acts 17, and Paul referr…

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On the Journey, Episode 164: The Circular Reasoning of Sola Scriptura - Sola Scriptura 2.0 Part VI 1:08:38

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Former Protestant pastors Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series looking at how they began to rethink their commitment to the Bible alone as the sole and sufficient rule for faith and practice. In this episode, they discuss whether the case for "sola Scriptura" is something that is clear from the teachings of Scripture itself, or whet…

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On the Journey Bonus Episode: Three Questions and an Invitation 25:33

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We're taking a short break this week from our series on sola Scriptura to invite you to a special event, exclusively for Protestant pastors who have become -- or are thinking seriously about becoming -- Catholics. There are certain things that only clergy converts to Catholicism can truly relate to -- such as planning your last sermon before resign…

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On the Journey, Episode 163: Sola Scriptura and New Testament Teaching - Sola Scriptura 2.0, Part V 1:10:07

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Former Protestant pastors Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series looking at how they began to rethink their commitment to the Bible alone as the sole and sufficient rule for faith and practice. In the last episode, Matt, Ken, and Kenny discussed how "sola Scriptura" was clearly not the authority model followed by the early Church. But…

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On the Journey, Episode 162: Sola Scriptura and New Testament Practice - Sola Scriptura 2.0, Part IV 57:43

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Former Protestant pastors Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series looking at how they began to rethink their commitment to the Bible alone as the sole and sufficient rule for faith and practice. In the previous episode, they discussed how sola Scriptura does not, and cannot work. But if sola Scriptura is indeed Biblical, then Christian…

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Sola Scriptura 2.0, Part III: Does Sola Scriptura Even Work? - On the Journey, Episode 161 1:11:08

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Former Protestant pastors Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series looking at how they began to rethink their commitment to the Bible alone as the sole and sufficient rule for faith and practice. If the Bible Alone is the sole source of authority for Christian faith and practice under sola Scriptura, then why are so many Christians who …

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Sola Scriptura 2.0, Part II: The Right of Private Judgment - On the Journey, Episode 160 1:04:13

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Former Protestant pastors Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series looking at how they began to rethink their commitment to the Bible alone as the sole and sufficient rule for faith and practice. One of the key effects of the Reformation was that the right of private judgment -- which had always been allowed in a limited way by the Cath…

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Sola Scriptura 2.0, Part I: Worldviews in Conflict - On the Journey, Episode 159 1:10:24

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When Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard were Protestant pastors, they believed and taught what many Christians profess: the doctrine of sola Scriptura, which holds that the Bible alone is the sole and sufficient rule of faith. Along with fellow Catholic convert Matt Swaim, they begin a series unpacking the basic conditions and consequences of sola Scri…

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On the Journey, Episode 158: Advice for Protestants Attending Their First Catholic Mass 59:52

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If you've only ever been to Protestant church services, what should you know before you visit a Catholic Mass? Ken Hensley was a Baptist pastor, Kenny Burchard was a Foursquare pastor, and Matt Swaim came from the Wesleyan Holiness movement. Now that all three of them are Catholic, they share some of the things they wish people had explained to the…

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On the Journey, Episode 157: If We Hadn't Become Catholic... 59:47

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Ken Hensley was a Baptist pastor, Kenny Burchard was a Foursquare pastor, and Matt Swaim came from the Wesleyan tradition. They all ended up in the Catholic Church. But what if they hadn't? Matt, Ken and Kenny reflect on some of the radical ways their lives have changed since becoming Catholic, and how things might be different if they hadn't enter…

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On the Journey, Episode 156: How We Read Scripture Differently Now - Dei Verbum, Part IX 1:18:05

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Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley, and Kenny Burchard conclude their series on "Dei Verbum," the Second Vatican Council’s document on Divine Revelation. Ken, a former Baptist pastor, Kenny, a former Pentecostal pastor, and Matt, who comes from a Wesleyan background, each take a principle from "Dei Verbum," and show how it has enriched and expanded their unde…

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On the Journey, Episode 155: Scripture in the Life of the Church - Dei Verbum, Part VIII 57:39

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Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley, and Kenny Burchard continue their series on "Dei Verbum," the Second Vatican Council’s document on Divine Revelation. They continue their discussion of how God's Word should infuse, inform, and inspire God's people, not only through the formal liturgy of the Church, but also through private study and devotion. Matt, Ken, an…

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On the Journey, Episode 154: The Supreme Rule of Faith - Dei Verbum, Part VII 1:11:08

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Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley, and Kenny Burchard continue their series on "Dei Verbum," the Second Vatican Council’s document on Divine Revelation. Given everything that the Catholic Church teaches about the importance of Scripture, how should it function in the lives of Christians, both corporately and individually? Matt, Ken, and Kenny look at what Va…

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On the Journey, Episode 153: The Old is Revealed in the New - Dei Verbum, Part VI 1:08:57

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Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley, and Kenny Burchard continue their series on "Dei Verbum," the Second Vatican Council’s document on Divine Revelation. How should Christians understand the New Testament in the light of the entirety of God's revelation to humanity? What does Jesus tell us about what God's plan has been from the beginning? Matt, Ken, and Kenn…

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On the Journey, Episode 152: Jesus in the Old Testament - Dei Verbum, Part V 1:18:57

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Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley, and Kenny Burchard continue their series on Dei Verbum, the Second Vatican Council’s document on Divine Revelation. What purpose does the Old Testament serve to Christians, who follow Jesus as the fulfillment of the law? And how does the narrative of salvation history illustrate that the incarnation has been foreshadowed fr…

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On the Journey, Episode 151: How Catholics Interpret Scripture - Dei Verbum, Part IV 1:16:26

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Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series on "Dei Verbum," the Second Vatican Council's document on Divine Revelation. Who has the authority to interpret the Bible? What safeguards exist to make sure that Christians of today believe the same things about Scripture that the early Christians believed? What criteria should Chris…

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On the Journey, Episode 150: How God Reveals His Word - Dei Verbum, Part III 1:15:32

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Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series on Dei Verbum, the Second Vatican Council's document on Divine Revelation. How does God reveal his Word to humanity? How did the Holy Spirit and the human authors of Scripture collaborate to transmit the message of salvation? By what means has this revelation been preserved and handed…

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On the Journey, Episode 149: The Word Before the Words - Dei Verbum, Part II 1:02:03

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Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series on Dei Verbum, the Second Vatican Council's document on Divine Revelation. What does it mean to say that Jesus is the Word of God made flesh? And how does that inform the way that Catholics approach the reading and proclamation of Sacred Scripture? Matt, Ken, and Kenny discuss the sim…

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On the Journey, Episode 148: What is Divine Revelation? Dei Verbum, Part I 50:58

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Many are familiar with the fact that the Catholic Church does not hold to the Reformation doctrine of "sola Scriptura." But what *does* the Catholic Church teach about God's Word? Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard begin a new series unpacking "Dei Verbum," the Catholic Church's official document on Divine Revelation from the Second Vatican…

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On the Journey, Episode 147: God Said, "Become Catholic!" - Kenny's Story, Part VII 1:09:39

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Kenny Burchard joins Matt Swaim and Ken Hensley to share the story of how he finally ended up becoming Catholic. Having left Pentecostal ministry, Kenny ended up looking at a few possible church environments that he thought he and his family might be able to call home. But at the end of all of it, he found that God was calling them to the last plac…

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On the Journey, Episode 146: Leaving the Ministry - Kenny's Story, Part VI 1:05:40

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Kenny Burchard continues to share with Matt Swaim and Ken Hensley the story of his journey to the Catholic Faith. Kenny shares the series of experiences and the process of discernment that led him to step away from ministry as a pastor in the Foursquare Church. He discusses three watershed moments that led him to believe that whatever God had in st…

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On the Journey, Episode 145: All That Scandal - Kenny's Story, Part V 1:00:12

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Kenny Burchard continues to share with Matt Swaim and Ken Hensley the story of his journey to the Catholic Faith. When Kenny, who had been a Pentecostal pastor, told some friends he was considering becoming Catholic, he was asked why he'd want to join a church that had gone through so many scandals. For Kenny, this was a question that hit close to …

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On the Journey, Episode 144: Which Christianity? – Kenny’s Story, Part IV 58:35

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Kenny Burchard continues to share with Matt Swaim and Ken Hensley the story of his journey to the Catholic Faith. As Kenny discovered more and more divisions among Christians, he became increasingly unsettled by them. He and his wife got into ministry together in the Pentecostal world, but their experience of everything from Christian radio to Chri…

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On the Journey, Episode 143: What Kind of Christian Am I? – Kenny’s Story, Part III 57:55

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Kenny Burchard continues to share with Matt Swaim and Ken Hensley the story of his journey to the Catholic Faith. As Kenny tried to find his way in his new life as a Christian, the question of where he fit among fellow believers became front and center. He started to realize that there were lots of different interpretations of Scripture, and lots o…

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On the Journey, Episode 142: Ignorance on Fire – Kenny’s Story, Part II 1:01:32

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Kenny Burchard continues to share with Matt Swaim and Ken Hensley the story of his journey to the Catholic Faith. At the end of the last episode, Kenny was a brand new, "born-again" Christian. He shares how in that first year that followed, his zeal overflowed in ways that ended up damaging relationships. He was passionate about his newfound faith,…

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On the Journey, Episode 141: "I Must Be Born Again!" - Kenny's Story, Part I 1:01:36

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In a new series of On the Journey, Kenny Burchard begins to share with Matt Swaim and Ken Hensley the story of his journey to the Catholic Faith. Kenny starts at the very beginning: from being given up for adoption by Catholic parents, to being adopted by parents who didn't practice religion at all, to growing up around Mormons in Utah and eventual…

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On the Journey, Episode 140: The Church is Apostolic 1:20:52

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Ken Hensley was a Baptist Pastor, and Kenny Burchard presided over a Pentecostal congregation. What did they think about the word "apostolic?" Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley, and Kenny Burchard discuss what kinds of things came to mind in regard to the word "apostolic," and what they thought, and currently think, about carrying on the apostolic mission of…

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On the Journey, Episode 139: What is the Church? Part XII 1:06:44

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Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series on the Church. The Catholic Church has four marks: it is one, holy, catholic, and apostolic. As they dig even deeper into the meaning of the word “catholic,” Matt, Ken, and Kenny look at how the Church is meant to be a home for all people, and expands Christ's mission to the ends of t…

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On the Journey, Episode 138: What is the Church? Part XI 1:16:07

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Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series on the Church. The Catholic Church has four marks: it is one, holy, catholic, and apostolic. As they dig even deeper into the meaning of the word "catholic," Matt, Ken, and Kenny look at what the Catechism has to say about other forms of Christianity, and even other religions. As form…

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On the Journey, Episode 137: What is the Church? Part X 1:06:45

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Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series on the Church. In the Nicene and Apostles' Creeds, we profess that the Church is "catholic," but what do we mean by that? Former Protestant pastors Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard share how they used to think about the word "catholic" before they themselves ended up becoming Catholics.…

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On the Journey, Episode 136: What is the Church? Part IX 1:03:20

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Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series on the Church. In both Scripture and the writings of early Christianity, the Church is repeatedly referred to as "holy." How are we to understand that, if we know that it has been full of sinners from the beginning? Matt, Ken and Kenny look at the ways the word "holy" is used in the B…

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On the Journey, Episode 135: What is the Church? Part VIII 1:08:49

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Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series on the Church. In the Nicene Creed, Christians profess that they believe the Church to be "one." What does that mean? How did Ken and Kenny think about the idea of Christian unity when they were Evangelical pastors? And what are the obstacles to believers being "one" in Christ? Watch …

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On the Journey, Episode 134 - What is the Church? Part VII 1:04:14

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Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series on the Church. “What the soul is to the human body, the Holy Spirit is to the Body of Christ, which is the Church.” - St. Augustine How would Ken and Kenny have reacted to a statement like that when they were serving as pastors of Protestant congregations? And how does the Holy Spirit…

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On the Journey, Episode 133: What is the Church? Part VI 1:05:02

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Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series on the Church. This time around, they focus on Scriptural imagery of the Church as the body of Christ, as well as the bride of Christ. As former Protestant pastors, how did Ken and Kenny think of those images? And what does the Catechism of the Catholic Church have to say about the Ch…

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On the Journey, Episode 132 – What is the Church? Part V 1:03:04

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Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series on the Church. When they were Evangelical pastors, how much did Ken and Kenny think about the Church as a continuation of the covenants God had made with his people throughout salvation history? Focusing on Catechism paragraphs 781-786, they share which Catholic teachings about the na…

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On the Journey, Episode 131 – What is the Church? Part IV 1:07:20

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Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series on the Church. The Catholic Catechism talks about the Church as being both earthly and heavenly, visible and invisible, hierarchical and mystical. In short, she is a "mystery" -- but what does the Church mean by that word? Matt, Ken and Kenny look at how they thought about the mystery…

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On the Journey, Episode 130 – What is the Church? Part III 1:01:20

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Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series on the Church. In this episode, they walk through the Catechism’s section on the Church’s Origin, Foundation and Mission. Here we see the Church born of the eternal plan of God, developed in the Old Covenant people of God, instituted by our Lord Jesus in the New Covenant, revealed by …

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On the Journey, Episode 129 – What is the Church? Part II 1:11:16

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Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series on the Church. In this episode, they begin to examine the Catechism’s treatment of Article 9 of the Apostle’s Creed, “I believe in the Holy Catholic Church,” focusing on the Church’s inner nature. What is communicated by saying that the Church is the called out assembly of the Lord, t…

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On the Journey, Episode 128 - What is the Church? Part I 1:05:25

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Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard begin a new OTJ series on the Church. When Ken and Kenny were Evangelical pastors, what did they mean by the word "Church?" When Matt was attending different congregations, how did he understand them in relation to one another? Where did each of them get these understandings of what "the Church" is and how…

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On the Journey with Matt, Ken and Kenny - Summer Update 3:28

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A special Summer message to our On the Journey family: Over the Summer, we're taking a short break from recording new episodes while we plan our next big series, which will be all about The Church. Since Ken and Kenny were both Protestant pastors before they became Catholic, we'll talk about how they planned church services, what they meant by the …

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On the Journey, Episode 127: How to Become Holy, Part VIII 1:29:00

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Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard conclude their series on what it means to follow Christ and be transformed into his image in the process. In this final episode, they summarize the entire series and add one crucial point that turns the truths and lessons into a path — a path that must be traveled, through the desert, to the land that flow…

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On the Journey, Episode 126: How to Become Holy, Part VII 1:07:29

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Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley and Kenny Burchard continue their series on what it means to follow Christ and be transformed into his image in the process. In this episode, as they follow the Holy Spirit into the desert to be tested, tried and changed in the process, Matt, Ken and Kenny look at three gifts that God has given his people to help them on the…

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On the Journey, Episode 125: How to Become Holy, Part VI 1:02:09

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Matt, Ken and Kenny continue their series on what it means to follow Christ and be transformed into his image in the process. In this episode, we follow the Holy Spirit into the desert to be tested and tried and changed in the process. Immediately after Our Lord’s baptism, he was led by the Holy Spirit into the desert. It’s no coincidence that the …

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On the Journey, Episode 124: How to Become Holy, Part V 1:02:51

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Matt, Ken and Kenny continue their series on what it means to follow Christ and be transformed into his image in the process. In this episode, they continue exploring the practical steps involved in the process of sanctification by looking at what happened to us in our baptisms. How exactly do we begin to break the hold that our unhealthy attachmen…

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On the Journey, Episode 123: How to Become Holy, Part IV 1:02:19

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Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley, and Kenny Burchard continue their series on what it means to follow Christ, and receive His promises as part of the Christian life. In this episode, Matt, Ken and Kenny begin to explore the practical steps involved in the process of sanctification. How exactly do we begin to break the hold that our unhealthy attachments, ad…

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On the Journey, Episode 122: How to Become Holy, Part III 1:05:05

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Matt Swaim, Ken Hensley, and Kenny Burchard continue their series on what it means to follow Christ, and receive His promises as part of the Christian life. Ken unpacks the story of Israel in Exodus as a pattern of sin and restoration that so many of us can relate to: we chase idols and mirages, which can never satisfy, while God wants us to turn t…

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