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Patsy quit her job. Susannah quit the city. Now they’re on a quest to find the path through the wobbly middle of their careers. This podcast is for every woman who’s asking “What now?”. Hosted by Susannah de Jager and Patsy Day, The Wobbly Middle features interviews with famed city superwomen, dazzling entrepreneurs and revolutionary midwives and doctors who reveal what they’ve learnt through their own wobbly middle experiences.
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Redundancy, maternity leave, perimenopause, menopause, illness, caregiving for elderly parents. Sound familiar? If you're a women in midlife, chances are you've experienced one or more of these transitions and challenges. And chances are you've had to hit the pause button on your career. But does an interrupted career automatically mean your earning potential, career progression and skill set are negatively impacted? If you're struggling to get back into the workplace or you're trying to fig ...
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I’m Sophie Archer, I’m a lawyer turned chef and entrepreneur. After having tackled some of my biggest gremlins - blood cancer, multiple rounds of unsuccessful IVF, a marriage breakdown I decided to change the course of my life. I am head cheffing and launching a new food business that I am excited to talk about. My recipe for cooking your gremlins - or tackling challenges and niggling doubts - includes uplifting food, sharing dishes with my favourite people and embracing an unconventional li ...
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...and how to build a brand. Liberating and taboo-busting, Rachael Newton (former hedge fund lawyer turned entrepreneur) is part of a new wave of founders, thinkers, and advocates throwing open the bathroom door and reshaping the policies, products, and possibilities of period care. In this episode, Rachael tells us how she designed Nixit, the revo…
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What happens when your carefully built career suddenly... crumbles? For Susannah De Jager, who was a hedge fund CEO at 32, it was losing her biggest client at work and realising her role was untenable while watching one of her closest friends die of cancer that upended everything. For Patsy Day, it was crashing her husband’s car after months of bon…
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Imagine standing at the threshold of your home, bailiffs hammering at the door, knowing that once you step outside you'll be homeless. On top of that, your husband has just been diagnosed with an incurable neurodegenerative disease. In one single moment, you’re forced to wave goodbye to a life you spent 20 years building while also losing hope for …
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Four years ago, Fern Fuller was juggling it all – a single mum with a full-time job as an Executive Assistant, COVID-induced home-schooling chaos, and the curveball that is perimenopause. Cue a moment of complete exhaustion that saw Fern sliding down the wall of her home office thinking, “I just can’t do this anymore.” Fern knew something had to ch…
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Where female investors bring the values—and the returns. Experienced fund manager Leila Kardouche knew that to keep doing what she loved—investing—it had to be on her own terms. So she co-founded Variis Partners, a women-led firm that’s diverse by name (Variis means “diverse” in Latin) and by nature, built on a culture rarely found in traditional f…
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Buzzy is a hugely talented chef, entrepreneur, and re-discovered friend. I tracked her down after listening to her addictive podcast - The Big D with Ateh and Buzzy. Buz co-founded Event Oracle, an events business for the great and the good. She moved to Antigua and ran a hotel there with her ex. This brings us to The Big D - which removes the sham…
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Israel is under fire this week as international frustration mounts over chaotic aid efforts in Gaza and fears of an expanded ground offensive. US Envoy Steve Witkoff’s new ceasefire proposal, however, has sparked cautious hope, with talks ongoing despite setbacks. Meanwhile, the Trump administration is undergoing a shakeup as Marco Rubio consolidat…
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There’s been an explosion in the popularity of collagen supplements over the past few years, and social media feeds are now full of posts from influencers bigging up the benefits. If you’re wondering what all the fuss is about, you’ll probably have turned to Google and come across a dizzying amount of information. But there’s one woman who is deter…
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As a fellow MasterChef alum, career changer, cancer survivor, and devoted fan of London’s iconic La Colombier, I loved this high energy episode with one of life’s great enthusiasts — Billy Wright. In 2016, after leaving behind his dream of a cricketing career, Billy took a bold leap into the MasterChef kitchen— and never looked back. A finalist and…
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What if 12 emails could completely transform how you think about your future? What if you could wake up and find that the familiar voice that says ‘there has to be more to life than this’ has been replaced by a sense of excitement? Because you realise you finally know where you’re headed and exactly what you need to do to get there. Joy Foster, Tec…
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President Trump’s decision to step back from peace efforts in the Russia-Ukraine war after a call with Russian President Vladimir Putin has rattled NATO allies and raised fears of weakening Western unity. Critics warn the move emboldens Moscow, while Trump touts future trade with Russia. Meanwhile, in Taiwan, President Lai Ching-te marked his first…
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Sophia Champion de Crespigny loved physics. She studied civil engineering for 8 years, fascinated by structure and design. In the workplace, however, she found herself wading through actual sewage in the field - and the more metaphorical kind in the office. Engineering may have been the plan but it turns out it wasn’t the fit. When Sophie finally q…
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One night, after service in the restaurant, I stumbled across a Moth Story that stopped me in my tracks. If you haven’t heard of them, think TED Talks—but personal storytelling. It was Salima Saxton, talking about a Valentine’s Day when her beloved husband, Carl, an entrepreneur, told her he couldn’t go on. Everything unraveled. Salima took charge.…
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This week, President Trump’s whirlwind tour of the Middle East sees him striking arms deals and declaring an end to nation-building, even as he engages in tense discussions with former jihadist-turned-Syrian leader Ahmed al-Shara. Meanwhile, in Istanbul, Russian and Ukrainian negotiators prepare for the first peace talks in three years — without Pu…
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Jenn Barnett turned a life-altering health crisis into a life-affirming career pivot. But a comprehensive survey of 600+ mid-career professional women (those with 10-25 years’ experience), commissioned by Jenn in her role as head of equity, inclusion, and diversity at Grant Thornton UK, has revealed that pivoting your career comes with its own set …
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We’ve got mail. Susannah and Patsy open the mailbag and respond to some of your excellent (occasionally panic-tinged) every-woman questions about navigating midlife career change. This means, Patsy, who usually prefers to hide behind the microphone (and strong opinions about editing), has to sit in front of it. Susannah on the other hand is already…
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This week, Chinese leader Xi Jinping visits Moscow for a Victory Day parade and meetings meant to showcase and strengthen a strategic alliance. Both Xi and Russian President Putin have taken aim at US economic and military policies and are presenting themselves as a counterbalance to Western influence. Meanwhile, India launches airstrikes against P…
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If you’re neurodiverse… Or know someone who is constantly battling an exhausting cycle of trying to fit in to workplaces that just don’t seem to get them… Or you’re an employer and want to better understand how you create a more inclusive workplace… You need to get Lillie Jamieson and her sister Alex on speed dial. Because after receiving their own…
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When Hannah McCracken returned to advertising after a career break raising her children, she anticipated going back at the same level, with some flexibility. She was met with a “no” — neatly packaged as professional advice: expect less. Less responsibility. Less pay. Less relevance. But for Hannah, time out never meant value lost. She had built her…
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This week marks the first 100 days of President Trump’s second term. From dismantling key alliances and trade agreements to sidelining democratic values and global institutions, are Trump's actions rapidly unraveling the post-WWII world order and 80 years of American-led international leadership? What does this mean for US influence, global stabili…
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We all know gender inequality exists in the workplace. But there’s another kind of bias that’s been quietly derailing women’s careers… and it’s time we brought it into the spotlight. According to Napala Pratini, co-founder of Habitual, a revolutionary digital platform helping people lose weight and reverse type 2 diabetes, studies show that women l…
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We get the inside scoop on what it was really like producing a live, chaotic political interview with then-candidate Donald Trump — the pressure, the reputational stakes, and Aundrea’s strategies for the toughest of interviews. This bonus episode is packed with big energy, behind-the-scenes moments plus Aundrea’s “Wobbly Middle” Go-Bag essentials. …
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This week, after President Trump floated a plan for Ukraine to cede territory to Russia, Moscow launched its deadliest strike on Kyiv since last summer. While the attack drew rare criticism from Trump, the administration has offered Kyiv only vague assurances about the country’s future security under the proposed plan that was presented as an ultim…
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Feeling like your energy’s on empty? Struggling to climb the stairs without needing a breather? Metabolism slowed to a snail’s pace? Welcome to the rollercoaster of perimenopause and post-menopause, where hormones go haywire, energy tanks, and your body suddenly seems to be working against you. But you don’t have to just push through the fatigue, b…
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Newsrooms collapsing. Journalism jobs vanishing. Three-time Emmy winner and TV reporter Aundrea Cline-Thomas saw the signs flashing like a breaking news ticker: the industry she loved was falling apart live on air. Stepping behind the camera, Aundrea launched her own production company, Mountain Court Media, as well as the community initiative The …
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This week, the Trump administration quietly eased tariffs on a wide range of Chinese goods, a move critics say exposes weakness in the US trade war stance. Meanwhile, President Trump has refused to secure the return of Kilmar Ábrego García, who was unlawfully deported to a prison in El Salvador, escalating showdown between the president and the jud…
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Would you walk away from a high-paying job… …with no backup plan, a new baby, and a hefty mortgage on a new house? This was exactly the situation Dr Victoria Stakelum was faced with when she returned from maternity leave and found the toxic culture she’d worked so hard to transform had returned… in little more than 8 weeks. Faced with a choice betw…
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A dramatic escalation in the US-China trade war sent markets reeling this week and raised fears of a prolonged economic standoff between the world’s two largest economies. Both sides seem to be playing a game of chicken, unveiling new rounds of retaliatory tariffs almost daily. And American businesses and consumers, as well as American allies and t…
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Heavy, painful periods: the £8.4 billion problem nobody was solving. You’ve seen the ads – smiling women skipping through their ‘time of the month’ like it’s no big deal. But if you live with heavy, painful periods, you know the truth is anything but. Crippling pain, constant leaks and anxiety about leaving the house without a change of clothes. An…
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President Trump’s “Liberation Day” tariffs announcement on Thursday sent shockwaves through global markets and sparked promises of retaliation from both adversaries and allies. And earlier this week, US Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth’s visit to Asia signaled a shift in US military strategy, with key meetings in Japan and the Philippines that could …
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If you think it’s too late to reinvent yourself and turn the seed of a business idea into something that can make an impact, Laura Harnett’s story is one for you. After setting up Seep, an eco-friendly cleaning tools business that has sold (among other things) more than a million plastic-free, 100% compostable sponge scourers, Laura went on Dragons…
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Do you feel a pull towards something new but aren’t sure what’s next? So do we! Following a No. 1 ranking on Apple Podcasts GB Careers chart, hosts Susannah de Jager and Patsy Day—who leapt off their own corporate career ladders—return for Season 2 on Wednesday, April 23 with more inspiring conversations about bold career shifts, unexpected opportu…
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This week, news that top Trump administration officials discussed operational details of a US attack on the Houthis in an unsecure Signal group chat raised profound questions about the administration’s security procedures, as well as demonstrating what those officials really think about Europe. Meanwhile, the arrest of Ekrem Imamoglu, mayor of Ista…
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Would a life-changing health diagnosis stop you in your tracks or spur you on to create something extraordinary? For Georgina Colman, being diagnosed with MS has been the catalyst for a business that is making a difference to the lives of disabled people around the UK. And it all started when Georgina made a startling observation while out shopping…
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This week, Germany bets big on its future as parliament approves Friedrich Merz’s bold €1 trillion push for defense and infrastructure, shattering borrowing limits to counter Russia and cut reliance on the US. Is the debt gamble worth it? In the Middle East, Israel’s renewed assault on Gaza shatters a fragile ceasefire, killing more than 400 and ig…
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Losing a job once is tough. Losing it twice? That’s an emotional rollercoaster that forces you to dig deep. For Avneet Sachdeva, her redundancies were a challenge, but they also became an opportunity to channel her entrepreneurial spirit. And today, she empowers women to embrace a wealth mindset as a wealth coach (her Insta is jam-packed with cleve…
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This week Russia hints at openness to a cease-fire in Ukraine but with tough conditions—stalling tactic or real breakthrough? Meanwhile, European allies increasingly see President Trump as a growing security threat, raising questions about reliance on the US and the impact on nuclear deterrence. And a judge rules President Trump overstepped by free…
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What does ‘winning’ mean to you? As a World Champion rower, three-time Olympian and Olympic silver medallist, Cath Bishop spent a decade embedded in a high-performance winning culture. But when Cath transitioned from the world of elite sport into diplomacy, she expected to leave the will to win behind. Instead, she discovered that from classrooms t…
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This week before delivering his address to Congress, President Trump sparked a trade war with America’s three largest trading partners—Canada, Mexico, and China—triggering swift retaliatory tariffs and rattling global markets. Meanwhile, during China’s National People’s Congress annual meeting, Premier Li Qiang announced increased defense spending,…
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*This podcast episode discusses trauma, which some listeners may find triggering. In 1989, tanks rolled into Tiananmen Square, and the world watched in horror as a brutal moment in history unfolded. But for Philippa Smethurst, who was teaching in China at the time, the impact was more than headline – it was witnessed firsthand in the tear-streaked …
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The center barely held in Germany, as Germany moved sharply to the extremes, with the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) doubling its support in just four years. Can Germany retake the lead in Europe, which is now more urgent than ever? Meanwhile, President Trump continued to walk away from Ukraine, siding with Russia at the UN and forcing Kyi…
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US and Russian negotiators met in Saudi Arabia this week and, in a stunning reset, agreed to re-establish normal relations and work together to end the Ukraine war. Meanwhile, from Mar-a-Lago President Trump blamed Ukraine for the war and called President Volodymyr Zelensky “a dictator.” What does this shift mean for Ukraine, NATO, and US security …
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Let’s be honest: most of us want more of it, and most of us want the money we do have to work harder for us. What if you could download a free app that looked at your current finances and then helped you make a plan to get them to where you want them to be? Enter Elisabeth Prager, the co-founder of Alia Money, the personal trainer you can pop in yo…
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