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Future of Freedom

Franklin News Foundation

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Future of Freedom is your antidote to cable news brawls and social media shouting. A podcast for serious, good-faith conversations about liberty and the ideas that shape it. Hosted by Scot Bertram, each episode explores a single topic and brings together two guests with opposing views. But this isn’t a debate show: no interruptions, no dunking, just thoughtful, civil discourse. It’s compelling, challenging, and refreshingly real. Subscribe now and join the conversation.
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Leading Through Unprecedented Times

Future Ready Schools, Thomas C. Murray

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Leading Through Unprecedented Times, hosted by Thomas C. Murray of Future Ready Schools, looks at how today’s leaders are working to maximize student learning experiences and break down traditional barriers, all while facing the adversity that comes their way. Each week guests share powerful stories of resilience, vulnerability, equity, and the importance of collaborative leadership. These stories provide inspiration, hope, and support for your professional practices, regardless of position. ...
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On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints concerning when the President needs the approval of Congress to engage in military action. First on the show is John Yoo, the Emanuel Heller Professor of Law at the University of California at Berkeley, Senior Research Fellow at the Civitas Ins…
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On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints about zoning laws and America’s housing supply. First on the show is Tobias Peter, a senior fellow at AEI and the codirector of the American Enterprise Institute’s Housing Center. Later, we hear from Judge Glock, director of research and a seni…
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On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints about whether federal involvement safeguards or endangers free speech on college campuses. First on the show is Keith E. Whittington, is the David Boies Professor of Law at Yale Law School and founding chair of the Academic Freedom Alliance. La…
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On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints about tariffs. First on the show is Oren Cass, Chief Economist at American Compass. Later, we hear from Iain Murray, Vice President for Strategy and senior fellow at the Competitive Enterprise Institute. You can find Oren on X @oren_cass and Ia…
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On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints about trade with and investment in China. First on the show is Johan Norberg, senior fellow at the Cato Institute. Later, we hear from Derek Scissors, senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. You can find Johan on X @johanknorberg an…
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On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints about federal funding for public broadcasting. First on the show is Brian Rankin, an Adjunct Fellow at the Competitive Enterprise Institute. Later, we hear from Howard Husock, senior fellow in Domestic Policy Studies at the American Enterprise …
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On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints about the legalization of internet sports gambling. First on the show is Charles Fain Lehman, fellow at the Manhattan Institute and senior editor of City Journal. Later, we hear from Jacob James Rich, policy analyst at Reason Foundation. You ca…
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Guest: Dr. Scott Menzel, Superintendent, Scottsdale Unified School District 48 (AZ) X: https://www.x.com/menzels Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC X: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray IG: https://www.instargram.com/thomascmurrayedu BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/thomascmurray.bsky.social Future Re…
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Guest: Sarah Frayer, Assistant Principal, Washington (DC) IG: https://www.instagram.com/frayersarah LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-frayer-4719b61bb/ Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC X: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray IG: https://www.instargram.com/thomascmurrayedu BlueSky: https://bsk…
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On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints about the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE). First on the show is Grover Norquist, President of Americans for Tax Reform. Later, we hear from Jessica Riedl, senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, focusing on budget, tax, and economi…
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Guest: Dr. Quintin Shepherd, Superintendent, Pflugerville ISD (TX) IG: https://www.instagram.com/quintin_shepherd Book: https://amzn.to/3X9RUbG Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC X: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray IG: https://www.instargram.com/thomascmurrayedu BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/thom…
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Guest: Dr. Patricia Brent-Sanco, Director of Equity, Access, & Instructional Services, Lynwood Unified School District (CA) X: https://x.com/Dr_PBSanco LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patricia-brent-sanco-ed-d-1a146b54 Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC X: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray IG: h…
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On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints about the Department of Education. First on the show is Neal McCluskey, the director of Cato’s Center for Educational Freedom. Later, we hear from Frederick M. Hess, Senior Fellow and Director of Education Policy Studies at the American Enterpr…
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Guest: Erik Gundersen, Superintendent, Suffern Central School District (NY) X: https://x.com/egunder IG: https://www.instagram.com/pegunder Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC X: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray IG: https://www.instargram.com/thomascmurrayedu BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/thomascm…
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Guest: Meghan Lawson, Assistant Superintendent & Author X: https://x.com/Meghan_Lawson IG: https://www.instagram.com/meghanlawsonblog Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC X: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray IG: https://www.instargram.com/thomascmurrayedu BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/thomascmurray.…
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Guest: Ken Shelton, Future Ready Faculty, Author, and Consultant X: https://x.com/k_shelton IG: https://www.instagram.com/kshelton BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/kshelton.bsky.social Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC X: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray IG: https://www.instargram.com/thomascmurray…
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Guest: Hamish Brewer, Educator, Author, and Speaker, New Zealand X: https://x.com/brewerhm IG: https://www.instagram.com/hamish_brewer/ Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC X: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray IG: https://www.instargram.com/thomascmurrayedu BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/thomascmurra…
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Guest: Dr. Rachel Edoho-Eket, Elementary Principal, Maryland X: https://x.com/RachelEdohoEket IG: https://www.instagram.com/the_principals_journey BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/drracheledoho-eket.bsky.social Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC X: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray IG: https://www.in…
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Guest: Dr. Randy Watson, Commissioner of Education, Kansas X: https://www.x.com/KSCommissioner X: https://www.x.com/KSDE Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC X: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray IG: https://www.instargram.com/thomascmurrayedu BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/thomascmurray.bsky.social F…
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On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints about possible reform of the Internal Revenue Service. First on the show is Joe Lancaster, an assistant editor at Reason. Later, we hear from Thomas J. Healey, the former assistant secretary of the U.S. Treasury under President Ronald Reagan, a…
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On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints about the need for reform of the U.S. Supreme Court. First on the show is Robert VerBruggen, a fellow at the Manhattan Institute and writer for City Journal. Later, we hear from Adam White, Laurence H. Silberman Chair in Constitutional Governan…
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On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints about the need for a reindustrialization policy for America. First on the show is Stephen Miran, a fellow at the Manhattan Institute and former senior advisor for economic policy at the U.S. Department of the Treasury. Later, we hear from Scott…
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On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints about a “No Tax on Tips” policy. First on the show is Andy Puzder, the chief executive officer of CKE Restaurants for more than 16 years and currently a distinguished visiting fellow at the Heritage Foundation and a senior fellow at the America…
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On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints about how to improve military recruitment efforts. First on the show is Mackenzie Eaglen, senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI). Later we hear from John G. Ferrari, a nonresident senior fellow at the American Enterprise Insti…
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On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints about “Right to Repair” laws. First on the show is Alex Reinauer, research fellow at the Competitive Enterprise Institute. Later we hear from Greyson Gee, policy scholar at the Texas Public Policy Foundation. You can find Alex on X, formerly Tw…
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On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints about the wisdom of federal pro-life legislation in the wake of the Dobbs decision. First on the show is Alexandra DeSanctis, fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center and co-author of the book Tearing Us Apart: How Abortion Harms Everythin…
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Guests: Nicki Slaugh, Principal, Quest Academy (UT) X: https://www.x.com/NickiatQuest Eric Sheninger, Award-winning educator and CEO, Aspire Change EDU X: https://www.x.com/e_sheninger Personalize (the book) - https://amzn.to/3z7wQJv Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC X: https://www.x.com/thomascmur…
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On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints about how to address the doctor shortage in the United States. First on the show is Jay P. Greene, PhD, a Senior Research Fellow in The Heritage Foundation’s Center for Education Policy. Later, we hear from Tanner Aliff, Policy Director for the…
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Guest: Andrew Rebello, Assistant Superintendent-Principal, Diman Regional Vocational Technical High School (MA) X: https://www.x.com/DimanPrincipal Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC X: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray IG: https://www.instagram.com/thomascmurrayedu Future Ready Schools Website: https…
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Guest: Melody Hawkins, Science Facilitator, Tennessee X: https://www.x.com/MHawkinsEDU IG: https://www.instragram.com/mhawkinsedu Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC X: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray IG: https://www.instagram.com/thomascmurrayedu Future Ready Schools Website: https://www.FutureReady…
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Guest: Baruti Kafele, Best-Selling Speaker & Author X: https://www.x.com/PrincipalKafele IG: https://www.instagram.com/PrincipalKafele Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC X: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray IG: https://www.instagram.com/thomascmurrayedu Future Ready Schools Website: https://www.Future…
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On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints about the recent FEC decision to ban noncompete clauses in employment agreements. First on the show is C. Jarrett Dieterle, resident senior fellow at the R Street Institute. Later, we hear from Brian Albrecht, chief economist of the Internation…
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Guest: Dr. Donya Ball, Superintendent, The Academies (CA) X: https://www.x.com/SuptDonya IG: https://www.instagram.com/dr__d__/ Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC X: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray IG: https://www.instagram.com/thomascmurrayedu Future Ready Schools Website: https://www.FutureReady.o…
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On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints on the future of conservatism. First on the show is John Hood, president of the John William Pope Foundation and one of the organizers of the Freedom Conservative Statement. Later, we hear from Andrew T. Walker, Associate Professor of Christian…
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Guest: Jimmy Casas, Future Ready Faculty & Former Award-Winning Principal X: https://www.x.com/casas_jimmy IG: https://www.instagram.com/casas_jimmy Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC X: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray IG: https://www.instagram.com/thomascmurrayedu Future Ready Schools Website: http…
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Guest: Dr. Dennis Williams, High School Principal, Hatboro-Horsham School District (PA) X: https://www.x.com/DWills0604 IG: https://www.instagram.com/ddubbS54 Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC X: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray IG: https://www.instagram.com/thomascmurrayedu Future Ready Schools Web…
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On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints on whether surrogacy is good for our culture. First on the show is Elizabeth Nolan Brown, senior editor at Reason and the author of Reason's biweekly Sex & Tech newsletter. Later, we hear from Emma Waters, a Senior Research Associate for the Ri…
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Guest: Dr. Robin Avelar La Salle, CEO, Orenda Education (CA) X: https://www.x.com/OrendaEd IG: https://www.instagram.com/OrendaEd Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC X: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray Future Ready Schools Website: https://www.FutureReady.org Free Virtual Events: http://www.FutureRead…
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Guest: Dr. David Law, Superintendent, Minnetonka Public Schools (MN) Twitter: https://www.x.com/DLawSuper Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC Twitter: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray Future Ready Schools Website: https://www.FutureReady.org​​​​​​​​ Free Virtual Events: http://www.FutureReady.org/Virt…
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Guest: Dr. Julie Mitchell, Superintendent, Rowland Unified School District (CA) Twitter: https://www.x.com/_JulieMitchell_ Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC Twitter: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray Future Ready Schools Website: https://www.FutureReady.org​​​​​​​​ Free Virtual Events: http://www.Fut…
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On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints regarding possible reforms to the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP). First on the show is Vance Ginn, president of Ginn Economic Consulting and former chief economist at the White House Office of Management and Budget. Later, we …
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Guest: Dr. Carmen Maring, Principal, Gull Lake School District (MI) Twitter: https://www.x.com/dr_maring Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC Twitter: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray Future Ready Schools Website: https://www.FutureReady.org​​​​​​​​ Free Virtual Events: http://www.FutureReady.org/Virtu…
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Guest: Dr. Nick Polyak, Superintendent, Leyden High School District 212 (IL) Twitter: https://www.x.com/npolyak Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC Twitter: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray Future Ready Schools Website: https://www.FutureReady.org​​​​​​​​ Free Virtual Events: http://www.FutureReady.or…
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On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints regarding our approach to the broadband affordability gap. First on the show is Daniel Lyons, nonresident senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and associate dean of academic affairs and a professor of law at Boston College Law Sch…
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On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints regarding our approach to the homelessness crisis. First on the show is Mark A. Calabria, a senior advisor to the Cato Institute. Later, we hear from Mary L. G. Theroux, Chairman of the Board of Directors and Chief Executive Officer of the Inde…
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On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints regarding the implementation of a miles traveled tax to fund transportation infrastructure. First on the show is Robert Poole, director of transportation policy and Searle Freedom Trust Transportation Fellow at Reason Foundation. Later, we hear…
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On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints regarding federal paid parental and medical leave. First on the show is Aparna Mathur, Senior Manager in Economics at Amazon, former resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, and a former senior fellow at Harvard University’s Kenne…
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On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints regarding the expansion of access to contraceptives in the U.S. First on the show is Courtney Joslin, Resident Fellow and Senior Manager of the Project for Women and Families at RStreet. Later, we hear from Michael New, Assistant Professor of S…
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On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints regarding the future of U.S. involvement in NATO. First on the show is James Carafano, Senior Counselor to the President at the Heritage Foundation and E.W. Richardson Fellow. Later, we hear from Ivan R. Eland, Senior Fellow at the Independent …
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On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints regarding universal school choice and school vouchers. First on the show is Corey DeAngelis, senior fellow at the American Federation For Children, visiting fellow at Stanford’s Hoover Institution, and a member of the board of academic advisors…
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