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Ep.304 - "All in the Family" w/Tyler & Jillian Sellhorn
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27:59Send us a text Tyler and Jillian Sellhorn are on the pod today! The father-daughter duo, past and present ballers, are like no other. In this episode of "The Jill Show", they discuss their scoring ability, the Internet of Things, and rules of the game. It's sure to be a good one! Like, Share and Subscribe today so you don't miss a show! Check out t…
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Ep.303 - "All in the Family" w/Nick Cunningham & Brandon Appleton
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58:44Send us a text Listen to this week’s RefTime to learn more about the plans for the future of sports at New Haven High School. Joining RefTime are Brandon Appleton and Nick Cunningham. Find out the details of the school's first HOOSIER3ON3 Basketball League in June 2025. LIKE; SHARE; SUBSCRIBE!! www.hoosier3on3.com www.reftrainingschool.com…
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Ep.302 - "All in the Family" w/Kyle Bond, Evan Cleveland and PJ Edmonds
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1:00:02Send us a text The next RefTime features the young Edmonds clan including: Kyle Bond - assistant basketball coach at Northrop HS, PJ Edmonds - AAU basketball coach & trainer, and Evan Cleveland - AAU basketball coach & personal trainer. Check out the cousins' similarities and differences in coaching style on our latest podcast. LIKE; SHARE; SUBSCRI…
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Ep.301 - "All in the Family" w/Keith & Michael Edmonds
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59:51Send us a text The Edmonds family - Coach Keith & Mike - educated RefTime on the drive to become a varsity high school coach! "It's such a prestigious thing here! In all other states it's just basketball. In Indiana it's a religion! Assistant coaches move all the time to get as close as they can to that next seat over - Head Coach!"…
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Send us a text Zara discusses the difference between playing high school and college sports. "When you're playing in high school, you're playing students up to 18 or 19. When you're in college, you're playing students in their 20s. You've got to work harder!" LIKE; SHARE; SUBSCRIBE! www.reftrainingschool.com www.hoosier3on3.com…
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Send us a text "My best officiating was ALWAYS in softball!" says Bev Reincke, who has officiated basketball, volleyball, slow pitch and fast pitch softball. Of those, her past favorite was softball, but she traded that in for her new love, volleyball. Her late husband, Randy, was a referee, and their son later joined "the dark side" as a baseball …
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Send us a text Rotrice Phinezy is on RefTime w/RTS. Her daughter played volleyball in high school and now plays in college. Rotrice herself played volleyball and basketball in high school and is thinking about joining us on the dark side! LIKE; SHARE; SUBSCRIBE! www.reftrainingschool.com www.hoosier3on3.com…
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Send us a text Jenna Mackin, a former volleyball player, has recently become an official. She says that officiating is "definitely different" from playing because "every decision falls on me and what I see." Jenna is also a recent high school graduate who plans to pursue a career as a firefighter-EMT. LIKE; SHARE; SUBSCRIBE! www.reftrainingschool.c…
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Send us a text "Over the hill/snowbird," Gary Muncy says that the top pay for Big10 officials was $125 per game, and that the average income from his full-time job was $4 per hour. Check out his life and officiating journey here on RefTime. LIKE; SHARE; SUBSCRIBE! www.reftrainingschool.com www.hoosier3on3.com…
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Send us a text FWPD Officer James "Nabes" Nabors III, tells RefTime hosts: "The correlation between being a police officer and a referee is hand in hand. You deal with a lot of the same verbal things from people that we deal with and unfortunately, nowadays, it's getting physical for refs so you gotta know how to defend yourself. But the biggest th…
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Send us a text Craig Dyer refereed basketball in the early 2000s for six to seven years. He decided he'd rather coach his kids, and so he gave up refereeing. He tried to do both for a year, but it was impossible. "You're either a referee or you're not." Why did Craig return to refereeing? Listen in and find out! LIKE; SHARE; SUBSCRIBE! www.reftrain…
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Send us a text As a current professional player, Jaguar "Jag" Jackson, says the main rule difference in high school and college basketball vs the pro ranks is "goaltending" (taking the ball of the rim) and the "gather step". Listen and watch Jag on the RefTime show! LIKE; SHARE; SUBSCRIBE! www.reftrainingschoo.com www.hoosier3on3.com…
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Send us a text She is a head coach in two different sports (volleyball and basketball) at two different schools (South Side HS & Canterbury HS). In her very first season, she was voted SAC Coach of the Year! She was also a basketball and volleyball student athlete at Canterbury. Meet Coach Brittani Turner on this episode of RefTime w/RTS! LIKE; SHA…
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Send us a text Julie Beck was a standout volleyball player in high school, college, and in Germany as a pro. A lot of people have been telling her she needs to do it. But she says, "NO! I'm never going to do that!" What is "it?" Tune in to RefTime w/RTS to find out. LIKE; SHARE; SUBSCRIBE! www.reftrainingschool.com www.hoosier3on3.com…
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Send us a text Marcus Benjamin, founder of the Kings & Queens Boxing Foundation, is passionate about helping young people avoid the mistakes he made in his youth. His program offers anger management, business courses, and the fundamentals of boxing. But what makes his program unique is that it allows kids to channel their anger into the boxing ring…
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Send us a text Sixteen-year-old Judah Kelly is a Carroll High School student who shares with RefTime his favorite things about attending an RTS training class with his dad. "The more I talk to you guys and get to know you better, the more opportunities I can get with refereeing and the more money I can make!" LIKE; SHARE; SUBSCRIBE! www.reftraining…
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Send us a text Koby Sims, a guest on the RefTime podcast, shared a highlight of his experience as a new basketball referee. He said that one of the best parts of the job is "getting out on the court with veteran officials..." However, he also admitted that his "pet peeve" is being yelled at by coaches, fans, and players. LIKE; SHARE; SUBSCRIBE! ref…
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Send us a text In the officiating industry, we're told that to move up, you need to be self-employed. Big Ten official Jourdan Love joins RefTime to discuss this and what it takes to stay at the highest level. LIKE; SHARE; SUBSCRIBE! www.reftrainingschool.com www.hoosier3on3.comBy Tonya Hearn
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Send us a text Shannon Rodgers, principal at Harrison Hill Elementary School, mom of a basketball player, and former high school and college impact player at USF, joins the RefTime podcast. Shannon sides with the officials on how players, coaches, and fans should behave during sporting events. Listen now to hear her perspective. LIKE; SHARE; SUBSCR…
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Send us a text Chauntiel Smith-Jones is a sports agent with Capture Sports Agency. She represents professional athletes in the WNBA, overseas basketball, and the new NIL (Name, Image, and Likeness). Her future plans are to grow Capture Sports Agency into one of the biggest sports agencies in the country. LIKE; SHARE; SUBSCRIBE! www.reftrainingschoo…
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Send us a text Jackie was initially against homeschooling their kids. She did some research on the issue, hoping to convince her husband, Josh, to abandon the idea. After her study, she was totally in favor of homeschooling, and they've since graduated two of their children. They've even become co-directors of the Midwest Volleyball Classic Tournam…
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Send us a text Janice North was a homeschool volleyball coach for the FW Falcons for 14 years. She most loved the personal relationships she built with her players, and she had a really good relationship with the referees. Janice told her players that the referees are there to judge how you're playing, and that at the end of the game you should tha…
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Send us a text Trevon Maley is an impact player for his homeschool team. He believes that his team can compete with any other team in the Fort Wayne area. The team has already proven its ability to compete by qualifying for the 2024 Homeschool Nationals Sweet 16! LIKE; SHARE; SUBSCRIBE! www.reftrainingschool.com www.hoosier3on3.com…
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Send us a text Twelve years ago, when Kristyne Esparza (Los Angeles, CA) was a youth coach, she filled in for referees who didn't show up. The pay was so good that she kept at it to help pay for grad school. Today, she is in the NBA pipeline, and she pays a professional track coach to improve her speed and appearance on the court. Kristyne has refe…
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Send us a text We welcome Jafus "Da' Coach" Woods to the studio. He'll break down the job of officials from the perspective of game and prep coaches. LIKE; SHARE; SUBSCRIBE! reftrainingschool.com hoosier3on3.comBy Tonya Hearn
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Send us a text Laschelle Hatcher is a single parent who was recruited to become a referee even though she never played basketball. She was rewarded for her focus and determination when she became the first woman to officiate a boys' IHSAA tournament basketball game. LIKE; SHARE; SUBSCRIBE! www.reftrainingschool.com www.hoosier3on3.com…
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Send us a text Kay Yoder was a pioneer in women's basketball. She played for Ball State University from 1970 to 1973. From 2001 to 2006, she worked as an official for NCAA Division III women's college basketball. Kay Yoder was the first female to officiate boys junior varsity and varsity basketball games in Fort Wayne. LIKE; SHARE; SUBSCRIBE! www.r…
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Send us a text Andrew Maley, a homeschool basketball assistant coach, joins the RefTime podcast to discuss the need for officials to recognize and honor a "rules of basis." He also emphasizes the importance of educating coaches, fans, and players about the rules of the game.By Tonya Hearn
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Send us a text Tune in to hear Dion Malone’s story of how he was thrown into officiating basketball right after high school graduation. Dion says he realized he could control the game as a ref, something he couldn’t do when he was playing. He started with real training and eventually heard from a licensed ref who told him to get certified. Dion sha…
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Send us a text Sports Management major, Ariel Edwards, is an aspiring college student at USF who needs money to help defray college costs...She wants to earn side income as a sports official and guess who wants to help her...? LIKE; SHARE; SUBSCRIBE www.reftrainingschool.com www.hoosier3on3.comBy Tonya Hearn
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Send us a text Some referees think it should be mandatory for coaches to officiate to see their sport from a refs point of view! Although he’s coached at numerous locations including Northside HS, Bishop Luers HS, Snider HS, Indiana Tech and AAU, Coach Greg Friend got behind the whistle early in his career and learned to practice letting the refs r…
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Send us a text State Champion & 4x State Final returnee, Coach Bruce Stephens left golden nuggets with RefTime: "I tell players: you don't have to agree with the call and you don't have to like it...but realize officials are just as human as you are and can get emotional too! So, keep the passion, lose the emotion. Cause passion stays within but, a…
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Send us a text Cleveland Inge shared coaching & officiating stories during his visit with RefTime! Hint: he thought being a good coach meant displaying the behavior of former Indiana Hoosier coach, Bob Knight. LIKE; SHARE; SUBSCRIBE! www.hoosier3on3.com www.reftrainingschool.comBy Tonya Hearn
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Send us a text Mike Ayers of ONV'S "Respect The Game" podcast, gives his take on sports, how the industry has evolved and debates a few rules too! LIKE; SHARE; SUBSCRIBE! www.hoosier3on3.com www.reftrainingschool.comBy Tonya Hearn
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Send us a text FWCS "Ad of AD's", Virgil Tharp, teaches us how to speak proper education sports lingo: "extra-curricular" is a Big No-No! It's all co-curricular - "We are an extension of the class room." And, we learned that fully 70% of working executives played high school sports! Ain't that something?! LIKE; SHARE; SUBSCRIBE! www.reftrainingscho…
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Send us a text He's back! HS referee Eric Koenemann joins again in the studio to update us on what's been happening in his world since his 1st visit with us last season. LIKE; SHARE; SUBSCRIBE! www.hoosier3on3.com www.reftrainingschool.comBy Tonya Hearn
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Send us a text Assistant Principal, Athletic Director, past high school & college athlete and sports lover Rose Worman, educates RefTime fans on the need for trained refs to officiate elementary school contests. LIKE; SHARE; SUBSCRIBE! www.reftrainingschool.com www.hoosier3on3.comBy Tonya Hearn
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Send us a text Bob Amber, retired firefighter (37 years), morphed into putting out fires on the basketball court while literally putting out fires! However, he's NOT retired from officiating since he still enjoys chasing young stallions and stallionettes up & down the court!! LIKE; SHARE; SUBSCRIBE! www.reftrainingschool.com www.hoosier3on3.com…
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Send us a text Past player, mom, wife, aunt, youth advocate, good friend and current coach! Learn how Juanita Goodwell balances her titles while serving as head coach for South Side HS's girl's basketball program.By Tonya Hearn
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Send us a text Listen or watch Charles Smith: youth role model, fishing enthusiast, Ball State U basketball standout and long-time referee who still "just loves being a part of the game"! www.reftrainingschool.com www.hoosier3on3.com LIKE; SHARE; SUBSCRIBEBy Tonya Hearn
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Send us a text On today's "instant replay" we revisit with Mrs. Gianna Hearn, freelance sports reporter/host & "face of the G-League". Please remember to LIKE; SHARE; and SUBSCRIBE! www.reftrainingschool.com www.hoosier3on3.comBy Tonya Hearn
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Send us a text On today's "instant replay" we have Dr. Ron Lewis joining us... Please remember to LIKE; SHARE; SUBSCRIBE! www.reftrainingschool.com www.hoosier3on3.com (next tournament is scheduled for July 13, 2024) - Registration is OPEN!By Tonya Hearn
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Send us a text Yep, another RTS Grad - Head Coach, Nicole Sisson's goal is to improve the Heritage High School Girl's Basketball program. She shares how earning her officiating license helps in reaching that goal! Please remember to LIKE; SHARE; and SUBSCRIBE! www.reftrainingschool.com www.hoosier3on3.com…
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Send us a text Here's another RTS grad (fall of 2021) REPLAY! It's fun to watch the growth and development in those trained thru RTS. Please remember to LIKE; SHARE; and SUBSCRIBE! www.reftrainingschool.com www.hoosier3on3.comBy Tonya Hearn
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Send us a text Today's replay is with Mr. Kamron Bell. Kam came through the 1st RTS class 12 years ago and has had a very successful career. www.reftrainingschool.com www.hoosier3on3.com LIKE; SHARE; SUBSCRIBE :)By Tonya Hearn
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Send us a text ANOTHER REPLAY... Watch/Listen to RefTime guest Mark Corral...Another RTS grad. LIKE; SHARE; SUBSCRIBE! www.reftrainingschool.com www.hoosier3on3.comBy Tonya Hearn
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Send us a text REPLAY... Watch/Listen to RefTime guest #4, Tom Torson. LIKE; SHARE; SUBSCRIBE! www.reftrainingschool.com www.hoosier3on3.comBy Tonya Hearn
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Send us a text REPLAY... Watch/Listen to RefTime guest #1, Sydney Hearn. LIKE; SHARE; SUBSCRIBE! www.reftrainingschool.com www.hoosier3on3.comBy Tonya Hearn
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Send us a text Steve Skiles (NOT to be confused with Scott Skiles!) is in the RefTime studio today! Ooh...and Steve has many stories to share from a LONG basketball officiating career from local rec leagues to high school to D1! www.reftrainingschool.com www.hoosier3on3.com LIKE; SHARE; SUBSCRIBE!By Tonya Hearn
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Send us a text Feeling today's climate in sports & considering the attitudes of sports-lovers towards officials, his perspective and response to referees is rather controversial and unique! Dr. Ron Lewis joins RefTime. LIKE; SHARE; SUBSCRIBE! www.reftrainingschool.com www.hoosier3on3.comBy Tonya Hearn
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