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Introducing a running podcast for people who think running podcasts are stupid. This is an ultrarunning comedy podcast instead. So if you are looking for inspirational or deep, thought-provoking content, you will probably DNF your next race just from listening to this. Dom Grossman and Andy Pearson host this monthly variety show with guests who are probably too famous to be on it, totally worthless advice call-in segments, and other dumb jokes designed to make you shoot gel through your nose ...
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The Trailhead

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The Trailhead isn’t your typical trail running podcast—we’re not dissecting splits or debating race strategies. Instead, hosts Zoë Rom and Brendan Leonard take you straight to the heart (and funny bone) of the sport, celebrating the people, stories, and quirks that make trail running so special. With a mix of humor, heart, and a little irreverence, we explore the personalities, people, artists, and everyday athletes who give the sport its soul—because trail running is about more than just th ...
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The Buzz

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Trail and ultrarunning are evolving fast—so how do you keep up? Enter The Buzz, a podcast that cuts through the noise with grounded takes from a true expert in the sport. As a pioneering ultrarunner, FKT legend, and industry veteran, Buzz brings decades of experience and a sharp, critical eye to the big ideas shaping endurance sports. Each episode dives into the culture, philosophy, and future of trail running with the thinkers, historians, and innovators who define it—not just the athletes, ...
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This month, Dom and Andy ill-advisedly take on their boss and co-CEO of UltraSignup David Callahan. Plus, they deconstruct the new running caveman ad starring sweetboy Tim Tollefson and reflect on the week that was Cocodona. Get 10% off Janji gear with code BTP10 and 20% off Dirtbag Bars with code ULTRADIRTBAG20.…
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Riley Brady is having one hell of a season. In this episode of The Buzz, host Buzz Burrell sits down with one of the hottest names in ultrarunning just weeks before they line up at Western States. Fresh off course record wins at the Black Canyon 100K and Quad Rock 50 Mile—not to mention a scorching-fast victory at the Javelina 100—Riley shares what…
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This week on The Trailhead, Zoë and Brendan are joined by performance scientist, coach, and author Steve Magness for a deep dive into the messy, meaningful side of mental toughness. Known for calling BS on outdated notions of grit, Steve shares insights from his latest book, Win the Inside Game, and challenges the idea that suffering is the only pa…
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What does it take to finish the Barkley Marathons—not once, but three times? And what kind of person dreams of spending 40 straight days trying to break the Appalachian Trail FKT? This week on The Buzz, Buzz Burrell sits down with ultrarunner, data scientist, and father of four John Kelly. Known for his legendary Barkley finishes, the self-invented…
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Check out the Cloud Cap Marathon here! Thanks to Running Warehouse for supporting The Trailhead. Check out their great selection of everything from shoes to sun hoodies, with free two-day shipping. This week on The Trailhead, we're joined by one of the most thoughtful voices in endurance sports writing: Alex Hutchinson. You might know him from his …
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In this episode of All Things Endurance, host Rick Prince chats with running coach and psychotherapist, Brant Stachel. Regarding his work as a psychotherapist, his focus is on sports performance and disordered eating. As both an endurance coach and disordered eating specialist, Brant brings a unique and very informed perspective to this very import…
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🎉 Shoutout to our sponsor: This episode is brought to you by Dirtbag Bar—real fuel made with real food. No mystery syrups, no gut bombs, just tasty, trail-tested ingredients. Get 20% off with code ULTRADIRTBAG20 at checkout. Trail and ultrarunning have never had more reach and attention. In this episode of The Buzz, host Buzz Burrell sits down with…
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This week on The Trailhead, Zoë and Brendan put coach and writer Mario Fraioli in the hot seat with their burning trail running questions. From “How slow is too slow?” to “When does running become hiking?” we tackle the big, the small, and the existential dilemmas runners face on (and off) the trail. Come for the laughs, stay for Mario's wisdom, an…
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In this episode of ‘All Things Endurance,’ host Rick Prince chats with exercise physiologist, Dr. Genadijus Sokolovas (Dr. G). Dr. G is widely regarded as one of the world’s most accomplished physiologists. In this podcast, Rick and Dr. G discuss many areas related to program design, as well as hot topics such as Zone 2 and the ‘grey zone’ intensit…
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The world's first (and only?) ultrarunner/paraglider Jason Hardrath sails straight into the pines to talk about his 121 career FKTs. Plus, the boys cover the scientific study saying marathons make you dumber, they preview their Utah 115 race, and they play Would You Rather? Ultra Edition. As always, get your own Janji give for spring with 10% off w…
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Anton Krupicka never set out to become an icon. But with a string of legendary performances in the early 2000s, including back-to-back wins at Leadville and a second-place finish in the epic 2010 Western States, plus a starring role in Unbreakable, he did. In this episode, Buzz and Anton sit down for a reflective, raw, and deeply insightful convers…
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What does it mean to live a good life? And can your running practice help you get there? In this episode of The Trailhead, Zoë Rom and Brendan Leonard sit down with Sabrina Little: ultrarunner, philosopher, ethics professor, mom of (soon to be) three, and author of The Examined Run: Why Good People Make Better Runners. Sabrina’s work sits at the fa…
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In this episode of the ‘All Things Endurance’ Podcast, host Rick Prince chats with David Callahan, Co-CEO of Ultrasignup. As the leading event registration platform for ultrarunning events, David has a unique perspective on the state and growth of ultrarunning. Some of the topics that Rick and David discuss are: 1. Could you tell our listeners a li…
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Buzz continues his conversation with the man at the center of a pivotal moment in running history. Did you know that, not long ago, athletes risked losing their amateur status—and their shot at the Olympics—if they accepted any form of payment? Even something as simple as having someone buy you lunch could get you banned. This system, known as “sha…
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Jeff Pierce is a former professional cyclist and the current CEO of Carmichael Training Systems (CTS). In Jeff’s distinguished cycling career, he rode for team 7-11, the first American to ride the Tour De France and in 1987, Jeff became just the third American to win a stage of the Tour De France on the final stage on the Champs-Elysees. In his cur…
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Welcome Brendan Leonard to The Trailhead! He’s the mind behind Semi-Rad, the master of stick figure cartoons, and now, he’s Zoë’s new co-host on The Trailhead. But instead of the usual "tell us about yourself" intro, we’re doing things our way. In this episode, Brendan gets interviewed by the person who knows him best—his mom. Kathy Leonard pulls n…
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Why is Frank Shorter is the most influential runner in the history of the sport? In the debut episode of The Buzz, we hear Frank tell amazing first-hand stories none of us have ever heard before. Frank won the Marathon gold medal at the 1972 Munich Olympics, which is credited with starting the first running boom, and he heard the shots ring out in …
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In this episode, host Rick Prince chat with professional triathlete and coach, Matt Hanson. Matt is a six-time Ironman champion, and also a six-time Half Ironman champion. In 2024, Matt finished 5th overall in the Ironman Pro Series. As both an accomplished triathlete and triathlon coach… as well as a former professor of exercise physiology, there …
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Big changes are happening at The Trailhead! In this episode, co-hosts Zoë Rom and Buzz Burrell reflect on Buzz’s legendary career in trail running and his next big adventure—his very own podcast, The Buzz with Buzz Burrell. Buzz shares his perspective on how the sport has evolved, from the early days of ultrarunning to the rise of FKTs (Fastest Kno…
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Trail and ultrarunning are evolving fast—so how do you keep up? Enter The Buzz, a podcast that cuts through the noise with grounded takes from a true expert in the sport. Hosted by pioneering ultrarunner, FKT legend, and industry veteran Buzz Burrell, this show dives deep into the ideas shaping endurance sports. In this trailer, Buzz shares what to…
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Carb evangelist and Leadville 100 course record holder David Roche extols the boys on the virtues of being totally hairless, how meat can be vegan, and why he’ll win Western States without training. Plus, Andy counter-challenges someone to a Race To The Death, and Fartalk helps a caller with treadmill HIIT. And visit our friends at Janji and get 10…
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Steve House is a former professional alpinist and mountaineer guide. Steve is currently the founder and CEO of Uphill Athlete. As a professional climber, Steve climbed some of the most difficult mountains around the world and in 2006, Steve was awarded the Piolet d’Or (the Golden Ice Axe) award, which is the highest honor in the world of profession…
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What makes someone want to run their first ultra? And more importantly—what makes them want to come back for a second? The reality is, most people who sign up for an ultra only do one. But why? And how can we help more runners not just finish, but fall in love with the sport? Tune in for tips on running your first - or even tenth - ultramarathon. I…
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In this episode of ‘All Things Endurance,’ host Rick Prince chat with Alli Felsenthal, owner of Runwithalli – a run coaching business. If you’re an aspiring coach, or an existing coach, you will be hard pressed not to come away from this podcast with valuable pieces of advice. Alli goes deep into how she started and scaled her running coach busines…
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1:42 – Buzz and Zoë dive into how their relationship with running has evolved over the years. They explore what it takes to sustain a lifelong love of the sport—and Buzz dishes out some hard-earned running relationship wisdom. 11:58 – Zoë sits down with Tyler Green and Rachel Drake, a power couple in the ultrarunning world. They share the story of …
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In this episode, host Rick Prince chats with former professional, and current elite masters cyclist, Laura Van Gilder. Laura is a former elite criterium champion, the winningest female US cyclist in history and the current UCI gravel world champion (60-64)... in addition to other national and world titles. In this podcast, Laura discusses many thin…
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In this episode, Zoë and Buzz dive into their personal journeys toward identifying as environmentalists—exploring why that label can feel complicated and what it truly means to take action for the planet. 7:12 Zoë sits down with Running for Real host and former elite marathoner Tina Muir to discuss the power of small, everyday actions in making run…
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In this episode, host Rick Prince chats with coach and physical therapist, Nicole Armbrust – owner of Jump Start Running, based out of Boulder, Colorado. Nicole specialized in working with female masters athletes and as such, this podcast discusses her decision to focus on working with masters athletes, as well as various aspects that are pertinent…
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Zoë and Buzz dive into what community means to them and why the Keep Trail Running Weird awards matter. Instead of focusing on elite athletes, these awards shine a spotlight on the everyday runners, the quirky characters, and the inspiring individuals who make up the heart of the trail running community. It’s our way of celebrating the people who k…
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In this episode, host Rick Prince chats with respiratory and exercise physiologist, Dr. Nick Tiller. Rick and Nick discuss if there is a toxic dose of exercise and if so, what it is. Dr. Tiller has established himself as a well-known resource with respect to addressing health and exercise-related myths head on. In that vein, Dr. Tiller is the autho…
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00:40 Buzz and Zoë chat about how they connect with nature through trail running, and why all trail runners should think of themselves as environmentalists. 6:48 Zoë interviews Luis Benitez, an environmental leader in the outdoor industry and a passionate advocate for sustainability and environmental stewardship, who has summited Mt. Everest six ti…
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The Corporanino Cowboy himself Eric Senseman drops in between the pines to talk about life as a 30-something-year-old retiree. And since that's depressing, there's pretty of holiday cheer from gift guides for your crew, a Christmas poem tradition, and the look ahead to what awaits us in 2025.
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In this episode of All Things Endurance, host Rick Prince chats with coach Nick Hancock, owner of Maximum Mileage Coaching in the UK. If you’re looking to start or scale your coaching business, consider this podcast a must listen! Coach Hancock doesn’t hold back about his challenges, his successes and his best pieces of advice for new coaches. He a…
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It’s the end of 2024, and we’re wrapping up the year with a deep dive into the biggest trends, moments, and milestones in trail running. Zoë Rom and Buzz Burrell share their top highlights from the year, including record-breaking performances, evolving race formats, and bold predictions for 2025. Joined by UltraSignup’s Head of Data, Matt Abbott, t…
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In this episode of All Things Endurance, host Rick Prince chats with environmental and exercise physiologist, Mike Weiss of Alta Health and Performance Solutions (www.altahps.com). Specifically, Mike discusses what the most popular physiological tests are, as well as how to interpret and apply the results. About Mike Weiss Mike Weiss is an environm…
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1:00 Zoë and Buzz discuss the technological and cultural shifts that have led to the trail running livestream boom and debate what its impact will be on the sport. 6:04 Buzz interviews Aravaipa Running founder Jamil Coury. They discuss how Mountain Outpost is leading the way with livestreams and why he decided to buy Ultrarunning magazine. They als…
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In this episode of All Things Endurance, host Rick Prince chats with personal trainer, running coach and multiple Masters world champion track & field athlete, Sue McDonald. Rick and Sue discuss her athletic background as well as her coaching business. Additionally, Sue discusses important factors in working with Masters athletes, why she enjoys tr…
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Coming fresh off the most unusual (for them) but very popular New York City Marathon, the boys recount their favorite moments of the weekend. What is Strava edging, and why aren't you on the BTP Edging group? Christian Allen tells all, and leaves us envious of his vicious mullet and stride. Support our sponsors by taking 10% of Janji gear with code…
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In this episode of All Things Endurance, host Rick Prince chats with triathlete and serial entrepreneur, Ryan Frankel. A former investor at Goldman Sachs, Ryan has founded multiple companies, and appeared on the hit show, Shark Tank. Rick and Ryan discuss assessing risk, start up financing and mistakes to avoid, among other topics. About Ryan Frank…
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0:50:00 Buzz and Zoë talk about what community means to them and how the trail running community can serve as a positive model as people reassess who they consider their neighbors. 11:09:00 Zoë interviews Tara Dower, who recently set the overall Fastest Known Time on the Appalachian Trail, about her preparation for the FKT and how her relationship …
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In this episode of All Things Endurance, host Rick Prince chats with triathlon coach, Jim Rowe. Jim is the coach education lead for Playtri and comes to the world of triathlon coaching from a non-traditional pathway – as a Lutheran minister. While various topics are discussed in this podcast, the central theme that Rick and Jim discuss are the pros…
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:55 Zoë and Buzz discuss the "party platform" that all trail runners can agree on and how athletes can navigate election anxiety. 8:29 Buzz interviews RUN Editor in Chief Brian Metzler. Buzz and Brian discuss the biggest changes they've seen in the world of trail and ultrarunning and what's next for the running industry. 33:11 Zoë interviews Traini…
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In this episode of All Things Endurance, host Rick Prince chats with structural integration specialist, Dr. Lawrence van Lingen. Dr. van Lingen takes a holistic and systemic approach to running form due to his belief that nothing in the body functions in isolation. While some may view Dr. van Lingen’s methods as contrarian in nature, they are evide…
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00:00:53 Buzz and Zoë chat through advice they wish they had gotten when they first started running, and advice for new and aspiring trail and ultrarunners. 00:8:53 Zoë interviews Randi Zuckerberg (yes, that Zuckerberg!) about how she went from running a half marathon, to signing up for the Cocodona 250 in a year. Plus, they dive into what it means…
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1:00 Buzz and Zoë discuss the intersection of trail running and alpinism, and how runners can stay safe when seeking high adventure. 14:00 Zoë interviews Kilian Jornet about his Alpine Connections Project, where he linked 82 peaks in under 20 days entirely under his own power. Kilian unpacks how he trained for his epic alpine adventure, and why he …
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1:00 Buzz and Zoë break down their favorite moments in ultra running history, from historic race performances to establishing new routes and FKTs. 14:20 Coach, writer, and podcaster David Roche discusses his record-breaking win at the 2024 Leadville 100, diving into his training, shooting his shot, and why ultra runners are getting so much faster. …
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0:55 Zoë and Buzz discuss Buzz’s recent travels around Europe, and why running is such a great way to explore new places. 10:55 Zoë interviews Dr. Jeffrey Hammond, a podiatrist who works with professional athletes to troubleshoot common foot problems. They discuss how runners can prevent common ailments like plantar fascitis, Achilles tendonitis, a…
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