What if the power you’re seeking can’t be traded for, only trusted into? We sat down with Bishop Elder to talk about guarding a living faith that actually changes people, and how to carry it—with fire—into the hands of the next generation.
We start with the mission to equip at scale and quickly move into the core question: how do you keep truth from becoming a museum piece? Bishop Elder lays it out: worship is a conduit that can transmit revelation or iniquity, depending on the heart of the leader. He challenges us to choose anointed songs over familiar hits, to labor for fresh oil instead of reheating last week’s manna, and to let preaching become demonstration in the Spirit, not just information. Along the way, we share testimonies of healing, hunger among Gen Z, and the story of a judge transformed by watching authentic worship—real moments that remind us truth still travels in power.
The conversation turns sharply toward the nature of the kingdom. You can’t buy miracles. Authority flows from relationship with the King, not transactions or tactics. We talk holiness and modesty without clichés, tackle the pressure to please culture, and get honest about our phones, playlists, and posts. Then we pray—asking God to burn away compromise, renew conviction, and anchor us in a love for truth that draws people to an altar, not an algorithm. If you’re hungry to pass on a faith that’s alive, to lead worship that carries weight, and to build ministry on intimacy rather than image, this one will re-center your heart.
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