What happens when faith becomes about performance rather than grace? In this heartfelt and eye-opening conversation, Jonathan Youssef sits down with Cameron Cole, President of Rooted Ministry and author of Heavenward: How Eternity Can Change Your Life on Earth, to talk about breaking the cycle of performance-based Christianity and rediscovering the freeing power of the Gospel for parents and kids alike.

Cameron shares his personal story of striving for perfection, hitting burnout, and finally finding rest in the truth that the Gospel means Jesus carries the burden of your life. Together, he and Jonathan explore how parents can nurture grace-filled, Gospel-saturated homes, guide their kids through questions of identity, and help them experience true security in who God says they are.

If you’ve ever felt exhausted by the pressure to “get it all right”—in parenting, ministry, or life—this conversation will remind you that freedom, peace, and joy are found not in performance, but in grace.

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