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Stephen Jenkinson speaks with Joanna about: paying attention to the crisis for an understanding of the time we are in; the skillfulness of grief; the greater achievement is lucidity, not comfort; the “Nights of Grief and Mystery” experience; the task in the second half of life; drawn in by the particulars of a piece of ground; Earth is a consequence of death; the generativity of dying; being caught after a long persistence.
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