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What does it really mean to mother across time—through babyhood, adolescence, heartbreak, grief, and desire?

On this episode of Parents Who Think, Clover Stroud joins Danusia Malina-Derben for a conversation that names the unspoken. They talk about what happens to a woman when she mothers across decades, not just in nappies and sleepless nights, but when her teenage son is getting expelled while her newborn cries in the next room.

Clover talks openly about postnatal depression, intrusive thoughts, the violence of maternal rage, and the parts of motherhood that don't belong on Instagram. She also speaks to desire, ageing, long marriages, and the seismic shift in identity that comes with being responsible for so many lives, for so many years.

This is a conversation about the kind of mother who doesn't perform perfection. The kind who wonders if she's alone—until someone like Clover says the hard thing first.

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Credits:

• Hosted by Danusia Malina-Derben

• Edited, Mixed + Mastered by Marie Cruz

• Cover art by Anthony Oram

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