From journalist-in-training to nationally recognized employment strategist, Natalie Holder shares how a lifelong instinct to protect others evolved into a career dedicated to equity, courage, and transformational allyship.

Natalie Holder, President and CEO of QUEST Employment Initiatives, LLC, joins Ron to share the journey that shaped her into one of today’s most respected voices in employment strategy and workplace inclusion. Originally drawn to journalism and marketing during her time at NYU, she discovered that the law offered a powerful path to advocate for underrepresented communities. After earning her law degree from Tulane, she worked across human rights agencies and major law firms before realizing that her true calling was educating organizations on how to build cultures grounded in respect and accountability.

Her path took a pivotal turn when she created QUEST Diversity Initiatives, transforming traditional compliance training into experiential, story-driven learning. But the most profound shift came when she accepted the role of Chief Diversity Officer for the U.S. Capitol Police, a decision inspired by the Michael Brown tragedy and fueled by a desire to influence systemic change from within. Through candid stories about allyship, including the CFO who gave up his office so she could lead effectively, Natalie illustrates how real support requires sacrifice, visibility, and action.

Throughout the conversation, Natalie breaks down the frameworks that guide her work today: practicing courageous allyship, cultivating a personal board of directors, and understanding employment as the foundation of human stability. She offers practical advice on negotiating severance packages, protecting workplace rights, and monetizing long-term skills without compromising professionalism. Her reflections on childhood, leadership, and the moral obligation of those with privilege underscore a powerful message: inclusion is built through everyday choices, not policy alone.

Listeners will walk away inspired to speak up, build stronger support networks, and lead with integrity—whether in their communities, companies, or personal lives. Tune in for a conversation that blends wisdom, candor, and a call to be a more intentional ally.

Chapters

👋 00:39 Meet Natalie Holder, a Trailblazer in DEI

📚 01:23 Publish Your Book At https://leveragepublishinggroup.com/

🚀 02:17 Natalie’s Career Path and DEI Initiatives

🤝 13:18 The Importance of Allyship and Inclusive Leadership

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🌱 27:27 Reflecting on Early Career Struggles

🤖 27:59 The Role of AI in Human Rights Commissions

⚖️ 31:19 Natalie’s Sense of Justice and Early Influences

🧭 35:02 Building a Personal Board of Directors

💼 39:55 Career Advice and Employment Law Tips

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Links
Website: QUEST Employment Initiatives
LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/natalievholder
Check out Natalie Holder’s work, explore her resources through QUEST Employment Initiatives, and connect with her on LinkedIn to continue learning how to cultivate truly inclusive workplaces.

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