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Safety didn’t stop evolving in 1984. Jean-Christophe Le Coze explains what changed — and how leaders should adapt.
Malcolm Staves, co-founder of Safety on the Edge and Global VP of H&S at L’Oréal, talks with Jean-Christophe “JC” Le Coze, safety scientist and Research Director at INERIS, about how the lessons of Charles Perrow’s Normal Accidents still guide us—and how they’re being re-imagined for a more connected and complex world.
JC unpacks his books Safety Science Research: Evolution, Challenges and New Directions and Post Normal Accidents, showing how globalization, interconnectivity, control rooms, and rising cognitive workload reshape risk. He also makes the case for closing the gap between researchers and practitioners.
⬇️ Register for Safety on the Edge 2026
https://safetyontheedge.com
Be sure to check out JC's Book 👇
https://www.amazon.com/Post-Normal-Accident-Revisiting-Perrows/dp/0367483998
You’ll learn:
✅ How Charles Perrow’s Normal Accidents laid the foundation for understanding complex systems—and how JC Le Coze extends that thinking to today’s interconnected world
✅ How Karl Weick’s concept of collective mindfulness continues to inspire safer decision-making in modern, digital control rooms
✅ Why James Reason’s classic models of human reliability remain central—and how they evolve in a global, data-driven environment
✅ How insights from Nick Pidgeon, Andrew Hopkins, and Diane Vaughan deepen our understanding of organizational culture and accountability
✅ What globalization, financialization, and interconnectivity mean for safety leadership and risk decisions across modern value chains
✅ How bridging researchers and practitioners helps translate decades of theory into practical tools for today’s safety professionals
Chapters:
00:00 – Introduction and JC’s role at INERIS
10:06 – Safety Science Research: connecting new and pioneering generations
22:38 – Revisiting Charles Perrow’s Normal Accidents
29:37 – From “normal” to “postnormal”: evolving ideas for modern complexity
33:35 – Globalization, digitalization, and the new face of risk
36:46 – Cognitive workload and control rooms: the human side of system safety
48:13 – Bridging researchers and practitioners: where theory meets practice
55:20 – Metaphors and visuals in safety with James Pomeroy (preview of upcoming workshop)
58:30 – Reflections on collaboration, legacy, and the future of safety science
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