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This is a rerelease of one of Joe and Ron's first interviews. They interviewed Ira Socol about literacy in the 21st century. Ira is a keynote speaker, and author of The Drool Room and co-author of Timeless Learning: How Imagination, Observation, and Zero-Based Thinking Change Schools along with Chad Ratliff and Pam Moran.

Show Notes: https://wke.lt/w/s/cvSfgn

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