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Sigmar Gabriel — former Vice Chancellor of Germany, former Federal Minister for Foreign Affairs, and former Federal Minister for Economic Affairs and Energy, as well as former Federal Minister for the Environment, Nature Conservation and Nuclear Safety — joins us to discuss how Europe sees Africa’s development, its energy transition, and the geopolitical forces shaping both.
We explore how a shifting global order intersects with energy policy, why Europe often finds itself on the sidelines, and where decentralized renewables could enable African countries to industrialize on their own terms. Gabriel provides a pragmatic view on risk, supply chains, hydrogen strategies, and the “migration hump” — and what a more balanced partnership between Europe and Africa would require.
Topics We Cover
• postwar order challenged by a confident global south and a retreating US
• Europe’s limited agency in conflict zones and energy strategy
• Germany’s energy dependence story
• Africa’s decentralized mini-grids as a leapfrog path
• storage, smart grids, and system stability beyond dunkelflaute
• China’s no-questions-asked model vs. models with more growth potential
• risk premiums, governance, and public de-risking tools
• hydrogen siting, grid integration, and export versus local use
• rural industrialisation and local value creation near resources
• supply chain diversification and partnerships through GAIN
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Chapters
1. Setting The Stage: Guest And Theme (00:00:00)
2. A Fractured World Order Emerges (00:02:50)
3. Power Vacuums And Europe’s Sidelines (00:06:36)
4. Energy Dependence And Market Liberalization (00:09:06)
5. Decentralization, Mini-Grids, And Africa’s Options (00:12:44)
6. Germany’s Grid Lessons For Africa (00:18:13)
7. Storage, Smart Grids, And Dunkelflaute (00:22:15)
8. China’s Playbook And European Standards (00:26:18)
9. Risk, Governance, And Financing Tools (00:31:10)
10. Hydrogen Strategy And Grid Integration (00:34:12)
11. Rural Industrialization And Local Value (00:38:30)
12. Migration Realities And The Development Hump (00:41:40)
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