Actor Ed Helms loves a deep dive into a snafu from the past. “I love the hubris, our amazing capacity for ineptitude and terrible decision-making.” He’s turned that obsession into the hit podcast SNAFU, inviting guests to break down some of history’s most entertaining bloopers. “The snafu is often not just the initial problem, but it’s [a] sort of scurrying aftermath of people trying to cover their tracks.” Each prior season focused on one historical moment, but season four has a new one every episode—and “dramatically” more episodes. “It is proving to be a ton of work, but it’s super fun.” Hit podcast host is a new turn for Helms, best known for his work in TV and film. “Office fans are just so, so sweet and delightful. Hangover fans can be a little more aggro, but that’s good.” But it’s that intimate relationship he creates with podcast fans that feels more earned: “Those feel like my deep peeps.”

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