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When Gary Wise and Matt Klipfel served together aboard the USS George Washington forward-deployed in Japan, they faced what both describe as the most challenging tour of their military careers. Now, years later, they reconnect to share sea stories, leadership lessons, and the remarkable journey from military service to civilian success.
Matt's story begins with joining the Navy at 17, seeking direction after high school. What follows is a compelling narrative of growth, from boot camp through his assignment to the aircraft carrier's damage control division. Working with critical firefighting systems under intense pressure, Matt and his shipmates managed complex inspections, emergency drills, and maintenance challenges with limited manpower. Through their conversation, we witness how these experiences forged resilience and technical expertise that would serve Matt long after his military service ended.
The discussion reveals how military relationships evolve into lifelong connections. Matt met his future wife Melissa aboard the George Washington, and together they navigated the transition to civilian life. His path after the Navy led to an unexpected career in water quality monitoring near Lake Tahoe, where he applies the same work ethic and attention to detail that defined his military service. As Matt reflects, "The amount of work we were doing in the Navy is nothing compared to any civilian job ever."
For veterans and civilians alike, this conversation offers powerful insights into leadership, resilience, and finding purpose after military service. Gary and Matt discuss the importance of knowing your team, leveraging individual strengths, and maintaining clear communication when stakes are high. Their shared experiences demonstrate how military service creates adaptable professionals capable of thriving in any environment.
Ready to hear more sea stories and leadership lessons from veterans who've successfully navigated the military-to-civilian transition? Subscribe now and join our community dedicated to sharing these valuable perspectives.
Chapters
1. Leadership Lessons from the USS George Washington (CVN-73) (00:00:00)
2. Meeting Matt Cliffell, Former Shipmate (00:00:28)
3. Early Navy Career and Boot Camp (00:04:55)
4. Arriving on USS George Washington (00:11:52)
5. NSERVE Inspection Challenges (00:19:35)
6. Transitioning to Civilian Life (00:35:28)
7. Leadership Lessons and Career Insights (00:43:14)
8. Reflections and Final Thoughts (00:58:12)
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