In this episode of Unconventional Wisdom About Conventional Wisdom, we sit down with trademark law powerhouse Karen Hawks, founder of Hawks Trademark Law in San Diego, to talk about how she built a thriving law firm—her way.

Karen spills the wisdom on:

• Why chasing clients before chasing overhead will save your sanity

• What really happens when you let your team lead

• And the real deal with imposter syndrome, growth pains, and staying in your lane

Whether you’re a lawyer, a founder, or someone just tired of following the old rule book, this episode is a refreshing permission slip to do it differently—and better.

🎧 Tune in, subscribe, share, and be ready to rethink what “having it all together” really means.

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