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Liberator

Chelsea and Layton

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Join Chelsea and Layton as they discuss pornography’s hard truths through the lens of stories, science, and Scripture. Liberator Podcast was created to remove the barriers of shame and embarrassment that stifle conversations and community around the effects of pornography. We look forward to earning your trust.
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It's Not A Phase

It's Not A Phase Podcast

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It's Not A Phase is a podcast dedicated to giving you a full insight into the world of rock, punk, metal, emo, hardcore and beyond. I'll be hanging out and talking with your favourite bands in alt music, and also speaking with those in more "behind-the-scenes" roles in the industry, from tour managers, label owners, festival promoters, publicists, and more. New episodes will come every Thursday, so subscribe and tune in.
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On this episode I'm joined by Within Destruction guitarist, Howard Fang. I had Howard come back onto the podcast to talk about the band's new album 'Animetal', continuing to inject anime and manga influences into their music, taking on more vocal duties in the band himself, his favourite ramen, and loads more. A new episode will be released every T…
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Chelsea and Layton explore the themes of condemnation, forgiveness, and identity in Christ. They discuss the lack of condemnation for those in Christ, the journey of forgiveness, and the importance of understanding one's true identity as a child of God. The conversation emphasizes the freedom that comes from recognizing that one's past does not def…
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On this episode I'm joined by Acres vocalist, Ben Lumber. We discuss their brand new third album 'The Host', recording with The Plot In You frontman Landon Tewers, recently touring the US a bunch, the loose concept and visual representation of the band, and loads more. A new episode will be released every Thursday. ----- HOW TO SUPPORT THE PODCAST:…
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Mark Sanders joins the show! The episode explores the false comfort that pornography provides, the generational shifts in attitudes towards sex and relationships, and the importance of community and healing in recovery. The discussion emphasizes the need for a redefined understanding of intimacy and the role of selflessness in healthy relationships…
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On this episode I'm joined by Bleed vocalist and guitarist, Ryan Hughes. We talk all about the band's new self-titled debut album, why it took several years to put together, being signed to 20 Buck Spin, working with Olli Appleyard of Static Dress, and loads more. A new episode will be released every Thursday. ----- HOW TO SUPPORT THE PODCAST: 🔴 Su…
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Chelsea shares her personal journey of dealing with betrayal and the emotional turmoil that followed. She discusses the common feelings of self-doubt and guilt that arise after being blindsided by a partner's actions, particularly in the context of pornography. The conversation emphasizes the importance of forgiveness, both for oneself and for the …
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On this episode I'm joined by Face Yourself vocalist, Yasmine Liverneaux. In this chat we discuss the band's new EP 'Martyr', signing to Sumerian Records, her adjustment to living in the US after moving from her home in France, working with producer Joey Sturgis, including French lyrics in their music, and loads more. A new episode will be released…
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Chelsea and Layton unpack the concept of formation and how our daily choices shape our lives and futures. The conversation touches on the importance of being intentional about what we consume, especially for those recovering from addiction or trauma. The discussion covers the impact of music, movies, and other media on our mental and spiritual well…
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On this episode I'm joined by Mayday Parade vocalist, Derek Sanders. The band are celebrating their 20th anniversary this year, so we dive into some highlights from the past two decades, their new record ’Sweet’, the forthcoming trilogy that it’ll be a part of, and loads more. A new episode will be released every Thursday. ----- HOW TO SUPPORT THE …
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Chelsea and Layton discuss their recent trip to Bangkok, where they witnessed the stark realities of the sex industry and its impact on workers and customers. They reflect on the importance of perspectives gained through travel, the deep sin nature of humanity, and the compassion shown by those who have escaped the sex trades. The conversation emph…
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On this episode I'm joined by Trenton Woodley, the frontman for Ladders On Tables and former vocalist for Hands Like Houses. We talk about his new project Ladders On Tables, his departure from Hands Like Houses, using his new project to recreate and modernise the 'Ground Dweller' album, future plans for the project, and loads more. A new episode wi…
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On this episode I'm joined by the vocalist of both Memphis May Fire and Anberlin, Matty Mullins. We talk about the new Memphis May Fire album 'Shapeshifter', why they released so many singles ahead of the record’s release, making a video for each track, working on the re-recording of Anberlin's album 'Never Take Friendship Personal' for its 20th an…
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On this episode I'm joined by Ameonna vocalist, Alex Koehler. We talk about their brand new EP 'The Birth Of Death', the concept that runs through it, forming the band after departing Chelsea Grin and disconnecting from the scene for a while, how deathcore has evolved over the years, and more. A new episode will be released every Thursday. ----- HO…
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Layton shares his journey of overcoming pornography consumption and the transformative power of Christ. He emphasizes the importance of community, accountability, and the role of God in his healing and redemption. The talk also touches on the impact of sin on his relationships, his call to ministry, and the significance of sharing personal stories …
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On this episode I'm joined by vocalist Rich Lardner and drummer Isaac Barton of the UK metalcore band, Downpour. We talk about their debut album 'Where There Is Life, There Is Hope', how the band formed, how the landscape of social media has changed for bands over the years, their original plan to put out multiple EPs instead of an album, and loads…
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Chelsea and Layton explore the complex journey of finding joy amidst suffering, grief, and addiction. They discuss the difference between joy and happiness, the importance of intentionality in our low points, and the necessity of community support during difficult times. The conversation emphasizes the significance of taking breaks from grieving, r…
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On this episode I'm joined by Kerrang! Radio host, Alex Baker. We talk about his old life in bands, how he entered the world of radio, his new show surrounding Download Festival, advice for bands looking to get their music on radio, advice for others looking to work in radio, and loads more. A new episode will be released every Thursday. ----- HOW …
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Matthew and Joanna Raabsmith join the show. They share their personal journey from friendship to marriage, the challenges they faced due to addiction, and the transformative power of vulnerability and honesty in healing. The discussion emphasizes the importance of creating a supportive framework for couples navigating difficult conversations and th…
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On this episode I'm joined by Traitors vocalist, Tyler Shelton. We talk about their new album 'Phobias', creating it as the conceptual successor to their 2015 EP 'Night Terrors', phobias that he lives with, how he got into heavy music, his other musical projects - including Project: Vengeance, and loads more. A new episode will be released every Th…
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** The audio is taken from a video episode. There are some visual assets that may be easier to understand if you enable video (where available). If not, you can head to YouTube. ** For the best part of a decade, British outfit Lower Than Atlantis established and maintained their status as one of the leading names within the UK's alt rock and pop-ro…
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On this episode I'm joined by Volatile Ways bassist, Lewy Glass. We discuss their newly released debut album 'Perfect Dark', how Volatile Ways formed, drawing inspiration from the Dark Souls video games, pop culture samples in their songs, running his own record label, and loads more. A new episode will be released every Thursday. ----- HOW TO SUPP…
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Jacob Valk from Into the Light Ministries returns to the show to discuss pornography, sexuality, and parenting. Jacob shares insights from his ministry's journey, including the creation of a masterclass developed to empower parents to address porn with their children confidently. The discussion highlights the significance of personal stories and th…
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On this episode I'm joined by Vukovi guitarist, Hamish Reilly. We discuss the band's new album 'My God Has Got A Gun', heading over to the US for the first time to record it, working with SharpTone Records, how the band has evolved and grown over the past few years, and loads more. A new episode will be released every Thursday. ----- HOW TO SUPPORT…
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Chelsea and Layton Boeve delve into the complexities of dating and the often-taboo subject of pornography. The conversation emphasizes the need for both partners to be honest about their feelings and experiences with pornography, and how it can impact their relationship dynamics. They also explore the significance of personal healing and the necess…
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On this episode I'm joined by Bleeding Through frontman, Brandan Schieppati. We talk about their aptly titled ninth album 'NINE', bringing on guest vocalists for the first time since 2008, the meaning behind the artwork, his opinion on the current scene of heavy music, and load more. A new episode will be released every Thursday. ----- HOW TO SUPPO…
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On this episode I'm joined by Four Year Strong vocalist and guitarist, Alan Day. We talk all about their latest album 'analysis paralysis', wanting to experiment whilst retaining their identity, forcing themselves to not overthink songs, the characters within the campaign artwork, and loads more. A new episode will be released every Thursday. -----…
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Chelsea and Layton explore the damaging effects of pornography on the brain, the rationalizations people make to cope with addiction, and the importance of self-honesty in recovery. They discuss the cost of following Christ, the influences of media on personal behavior, and the challenges of healing from betrayal and insecurity. The dialogue emphas…
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On this episode I'm joined by State Of You frontman, Steve Sitkowski. We discuss the band's newly released EP 'On A Knife's Edge', having a vault of over 50 unreleased songs in the bag, implementing more melody this time around, how things have changed since being in his previous band Outcry Collective, and loads more. A new episode will be release…
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Chelsea and Layton are joined by Caitlin McCaffrey, the Director of Women's Ministry at Harvest USA. They explore the mission of Harvest USA, God’s heart towards those struggling with betrayal and sexual sin, and the significant need for support among women facing these challenges. Caitlin shares insights on betrayal trauma, the importance of ackno…
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On this episode I'm joined by Great American Ghost vocalist, Ethan Harrison. With the release of their fourth album 'Tragedy Of The Commons' just around the corner, we talk about the meaning behind its title, some of its messages and themes, the long wait between recording it and releasing it, working with SharpTone Records, the concepts of free wi…
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Chelsea and Layton wrap up Liberator’s Beyond the Porn Phenomenon series by diving into Barna’s research on pornography and the church. They discuss the importance of community support for both congregants and leaders, the generational perspectives on pornography, and the challenges faced by church leaders in addressing these issues. The conversati…
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On this episode I'm joined by Nyrobi and Chaya of ALT BLK ERA. We discuss their debut album 'Rave Immortal', working with Earache Records, their musical upbringing as sisters, opting for a yin yang aesthetic, the album's concept, the importance of building an inclusive fanbase and community, and loads more. A new episode will be released every Thur…
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On this episode I'm joined by emo solo artist and singer-songwriter, Days To Waste. We talk about their debut album 'Forget Me When The Summer Ends', how it expands on a loose concept that he's been working on throughout some older songs, how he's developed as a songwriter and artist over the years, and loads more. A new episode will be released ev…
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We are rewinding back to one of our favorite episodes with some of our favorite people, the Greshes! Bob and Dannah Gresh are bestselling authors and leaders of the Pure Freedom, True Girl, and Born to Be Brave ministries. They join us to talk about Dannah's book, Happily Even After, and the incredible redemption story of their marriage. Resources …
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On this episode I'm joined by Matt Burns who is the label manager of Smartpunk Records. We talk about his gateway into the scene, how he got involved at Smartpunk Records, what the role of a label manager entails, his love for collecting vinyl, and loads more. A new episode will be released every Thursday. ----- HOW TO SUPPORT THE PODCAST: 🔴 Subscr…
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On this episode I'm joined by RedHook vocalist, Emmy Mack. I had Emmy jump on the podcast again to talk about the band's new album 'Mutation', each of its guest features, covering 'Greedy' by Tate McCrae, the band's references to horror, and loads more. A new episode will be released every Thursday. ----- HOW TO SUPPORT THE PODCAST: 🔴 Subscribe on …
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Chelsea and Layton delve into the motivations behind pornography consumption, exploring how factors like boredom, stress, and personal arousal influence individuals' choices. They discuss the differences in motivations between men and women, the impact of technology on access to pornography, and the need for the church to engage in discussions abou…
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On this episode I'm joined by Leander Gloversmith, who's an artist manager at Future History Management. We talk about what artist management entails, how he accidentally stumbled into the job by looking after Architects early in their career, why joining Future History Management felt like a full circle moment, what he loves most about the job, an…
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Chelsea and Layton introduce a new series based from Barna's research on pornography usage in the U.S., discussing the growth of consumers and frequency of use across the country. They also explore the themes of substance versus shadow in life, particularly in relation to pornography and its impact on society.…
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On this episode I'm joined by Arimea vocalist, Whitney Cooper. Arimea are a fairly new band to the scene, so we talk about how they came together, their debut EP 'Orchid St.', where the name of the EP comes from, her favourite nu-metal bands, studying at BIMM (Brighton Institute of Modern Music), and loads more. A new episode will be released every…
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Chelsea and Layton speak with Jamie Gordon from Screen Sanity about the challenges parents face in managing technology use among children. Jamie shares the mission of Screen Sanity, and shares practical strategies for establishing boundaries, addressing difficult topics like pornography, and fostering open communication with kids. ScreenSanity.org …
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On this episode I'm joined by Hidden Mothers bassist/vocalist, Liam Knowles. We discuss the band's debut album 'Erosion / Avulsion', what caused the 4 year gap between that and their 2020 EP, signing to Church Road Records, changing from a 5-piece to a quartet, his favourite Every Time I Die album, and loads more. A new episode will be released eve…
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On this episode I'm joined by Ocean Grove frontman, Dale Tanner. We talk about their new album 'Oddworld', how they consider it the equivalent to a self-titled album, setting up their own label in the same name, the fluidity of their sound and line-up, the importance of a special fan experience, and loads more. A new episode will be released every …
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