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We connect you to stories at Washington State University, from meaningful research to fascinating people and campus life. Each month we’ll have an episode where Cougs from all over talk with us about research and outreach, and another episode that spotlights a WSU alum or happenings on one of WSU campuses. Do you have any WSU story ideas for the podcast? We’d love to hear them. Email us or send a note through our contact form. If you like the Washington State Magazine podcast, please like us ...
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Getting Real with Jon & Beth

Jon Brennan & Beth Stolarczyk

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Reality TV star pioneers Jon Brennan & Beth Stolarczyk from MTV’s The Real World and Challenge give an insider's perspective on reality TV, music, pop culture, and Real Life. Take a walk down nostalgia lane to the present time as they get into real unfiltered one on one conversations Get ready for a roller-coaster of emotions and thoughts as they feature a lineup of star-studded guests ranging from Syrus, the 1st Black Reality Star from ‘The Challenge,’ to Doug Herzog, Former President of MT ...
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Butter Fortney, aka “UR Boy Butter,” joins Jon Brennan andBeth Stolarczyk on the podcast to tell stories of his journey from growing up in Ohio to becoming a recording artist and producer in country music. Butter’s band, Trailer Choir, was signed to Toby Keith’s record label, Show Dog Nashville, and now he hosts an incredibly entertaining live show…
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Nashville music mogul Joe Kelly joins the podcast for an insightful conversation about his journey to becoming President of CDX Nashville and CDX Records. Joe has been in the music business for 40 years and has changed his strategies to coincide with the changes in the times of the ever-changing music industry. He discusses why he chose not to meet…
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The Real World Los Angeles’s legendary roommate, David Edwards, joins Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brennan to hash out the “Real World Homecoming” and why he left the show for the second time. He talks about being a Pawpaw and how he feels blessed, including being part of a dysfunctional reality cast. He tells behind-the-scenes events we didn’t know abo…
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Phillip Solomon from “Deal or No Deal Island” season 2 joins Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brennan will discuss how he got cast on the show, the crash course swimming lessons to prepare, and outfit planning. He gives us details on the daily shooting schedule, the living conditions, and behind-the-scenes comments about how Dr. Will ended up on the island.…
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The band “Herrick” joins Jon Brennan and Beth Stolarczyk with a live podcast recording from Rock N Pod Expo 2025 in Music City, Nashville, TN! The band members discuss their new single release, “Underneath That Old Cowboy Hat” and why they describe their sound as “Country Soul On The Rocks”. Hear the backstory from one of Nashville’s hottest new ba…
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A Road Ruler and 3 Real Worlders collaborate for this ultimate podcast mashup. "Brain Candy" and "Getting Real With Jon & Beth" podcasts have a joint round table to discuss old school reality origins and backstories you never knew. Sarah Rice (MTV’s “The Real World: Brooklyn”, “The Challenge”), Susie Meister (MTV’s “Road Rules: Down Under”, “The Ch…
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Lori Regan, roommate and cast member of MTV’s “The Real World: Back To New York” is our guest on the podcast episode this week. She shares with Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brennan share their experiences living with Coral, Mike “The Miz”, Malik, and the rest of her cast on the pioneer reality show as well as “The Challenge”. Learn more about your ad ch…
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“It’s only rock n roll, but I like it,” is not really a good answer in Washington State University’s popular history of rock music class. Hundreds of WSU students learn how to really dig into the tunes. They study how rock ‘n’ roll is tied into American society, history, and culture, by analyzing lyrics and music styles from over the decades. A.J. …
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Content creator, Lauren-Blair Donovan sits in on the podcast with Jon Brennan and Beth Stolarczyk to discuss her posts on social media regarding “The Challenge” and “All Stars”. Blair discusses her desire to have been on The Real World and her thoughts on the Homecoming shows. Beth reveals her conversations with Coral on The Gauntlet 3 and Blair te…
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Katie Cooley joins Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brennan to discuss her latest stint on The Challenge All Stars 5: Rivals! The Road Rules OG talks about her relationship with Veronica and how to keep your cool during a reality show competition. She gets specific about strategies, regrets, fears and victories. Beth realizes that Veronica was not out to ge…
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Farming life and the essential work of producing food for the world has long been celebrated in art, literature, and essays. Richard Scheuerman, an educator, author, and 1972 history graduate from Washington State University, wrote three books that take a deep dive into art and books about farming. He covers a huge span of time and geography, from …
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Nicole Zanatta: “Fighting Fire With Fire" Jon Brennan & Beth Stolarczyk’s guest is Nicole Zanatta of MTV’s The Real World, MTV’s The Challenge, and MTV’s The Challenge All Stars 5. Nicole spills the tea on how she navigates her way through a reality competition show. We discuss Melissa Reeves, Amber Borzotra, Frank Sweeney Fox, and many others. Lea…
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Both of WSU's basketball teams got bounced out of their WCC tournaments over a week ago, but their seasons aren't yet over as both teams have found postseason tournaments in which to play: The men will play in the College Basketball Crown, a 16-team tournament in Las Vegas at the end of the month, while the women will take part in the WNIT starting…
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Faysal Shafaat, known as Fessy, chops it up with Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brennan about his initial audition for Survivor, only to be cast onto Big Brother and become an icon of The Challenge! He talks about strategy, training, and diet before being surprised by a special, unannounced guest during the conversation here on this podcast episode. Learn…
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Devin Walker details how he went from MTV’s “Are You The One?” to being a mainstay on “The Challenge”. Devin shares the skinny with Jon Brennan and Beth Stolarczyk about Leroy’s character and Dario’s breath. He is an expert in strategy on competition games and has proven so by becoming a Challenge Champion in a past season. This episode dissects “T…
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The WCC tournaments are this weekend, and they mean different things for WSU's men's and women's basketball teams. For the men, it's one last chance to put the bad taste of that no good, awful five-week stretch that tanked all the vibes around a good start. They played pretty decently in their final two games of the regular season, securing the WCC…
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Frank Sweeney Fox shares with Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brennan the strategy he has learned from studying Traitors and being a student of the Housewives and how he is now applying that while competing on “The Challenge All Stars 5: Rivals,” which is currently airing each Wednesday on MTV. Frank is confident and has been accused of being a snake with …
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It was truly a weekend of pain for WSU men’s basketball. In one of the most anticipated games in Beasley Coliseum in years, the Washington State Cougars laid an absolute dud against the Gonzaga Bulldogs in front of a sold-out crowd, losing by 21 last Wednesday. Not to be outdone — and proving there is actually no floor — they then went out to Beasl…
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WSU has had a rough go of it lately in men's basketball, having dropped six of seven. But now ... big, bad, Gonzaga makes its return to Beasley Coliseum on Wednesday. With special co-host Jamey Vinnick of Cougfan.com, we start off by looking at just how it is that this season went off the rails, then break down what it will take to beat the Zags. I…
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Adam Larson returns to Getting Real With Jon & Beth to discuss his return to The Challenge All Stars 5: Rivals! He describes Beth Stolarczyk’s puppy cry as they competed on a platform 55 stories high in the first daily challenge. Jon Brennan deems him the new GOAT on the scene and a “True Story” OG of The Challenge franchise. Now that Beth and Jonn…
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Students, teachers, and schools learned a lot during the COVID-19 pandemic. Many of the challenges and opportunities were already there, just emphasized by the global health emergency, says Johnny Lupinacci, associate professor at the Washington State University College of Education. Lupinacci teaches future teachers and education researchers, and …
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"Getting Real" podcast hosts Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brennan discuss episode 1 of The Challenge All-Stars 5: Rivals. They discuss the cast, the rival pairs, and the first competition. Jon compliments Beth’s willingness to apologize on camera to Jonna face to face for the past and Beth explains the complications of being partnered with someone who s…
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Tori Gwinn from MTV's Road Rules: Viewers Revenge, The Gauntlet 3, The Duel 2, and The Challenge Cutthroat is our OG guest. We discuss her wins, experiences, and coming full circle in life outside of the show. Is she interested in being on The Challenge again? Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brennan love having true pioneers on the podcast! Learn more abou…
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As “The Challenge All Stars” returns to the MTV Network, Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brennan give a run down on each competitor as they break down the cast. Beth wonders who she might be matched up with as a rival and Jon reminds her that she has “so many to choose from.” The Challenge All Stars 5: RIVALS premieres Wednesday, January 29, 2025, on MTV L…
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Reality pioneers Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brennan discuss the tragic wildfires in Los Angeles, California. Los Angeles is's current hometown for Beth and the location where she and Jon were part of the groundbreaking cast on season two of MTV’s “The Real World”. Beth describes what living in LA County is like as the Santa Ana winds blow wildfire all…
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Weatherwise, July 2024 was a doozy. Palm Springs hit 124 degrees. Alaska had the wettest July on record. Washington DC tied its record for the most consecutive days with temperatures over 100. Hurricane Beryl became the earliest category five hurricane in history. And a Chicago derecho spawned 32 tornadoes in single day. “All of that happened just …
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Wellness and Recovery specialist, YouTube vlogger and motivational speaker Marc Agboka joins cohosts Jon Brennan and Beth Stolarczyk for an honest podcast discussion. They talk mental health and fitness and how it applies to all of us in life, even reality stars. Beth chimes in and exposes that Wes and Bananas’ feud is fabricated just for social me…
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Kevin Lee is an Executive Producer of reality shows such as The Real Housewives of Orange County, The Simple Life, The Summit, The Challenge, Road Rules, The Real World, The Real World Homecoming (New York, Los Angeles, and New Orleans), and many more! Kevin shares with Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brennan who his favorite reality stars are, stories abo…
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Jason Cornwell of Cornwell Casting and old school cast member from MTV’s “The Real World: Boston” and early season of “The Challenge” joins Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brennan for a candid conversation about the early days of reality television. He shares his tactic for avoiding conflict…" I’m Paul and that’s between y’all”. Jason shares as a casting a…
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TV personality and Interior designer to the stars is spilling tea to Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brennan about his favorite clients and his love for Kathy Hilton and her fabulous parties. We also discuss his time on The Anna Nicole show as well as Lisa Vanderpump. Which Real Housewife of Beverly Hills owes him 15k? Learn more about your ad choices. Vis…
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The stories of Washington State University are stories of the state, covering agriculture and architecture, geography and geology, history and industry, people and places, and a lot more from the Puget Sound to the Palouse. Many of those stories are gathered in The Evergreen Collection: Exceptional Stories from Across Washington State, an anthology…
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Irene Suttner is welcomed back to the “Getting Real With Jon And Beth” podcast for a great visit where old roommates catch up. They talk about the pros and cons of “The Real World Homecoming” and discuss places they may all be traveling to together in the future. You can find more information on Irene’s endeavors at: realworldtravelswithirene.com i…
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Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brennan discuss holiday food until Syrus drops in. The friends catch up and talk about footsie on The Challenge, Tenderoni, and Real World cast members in Presidential Cabinet roles. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy Jon Brennan & Beth Stolarczyk
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After surging to an 8-1 record, the Washington State Cougars have now dropped two in a row as double-digit favorites. What on earth has happened to the defense? And can we even count on them to show up at home this weekend against Wyoming? Other topics: Beer, thoughts on the injury to Cedric Coward and what it means for the men's basketball team, a…
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Fatemeh Gholtoghian joins reality stars Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brennan for a packed conversation about what it is like behind the scenes as a talent producer on MTV's The Challenge, The Challenge All Stars, The Simple Life, Vanderpump Villa, and The Shahs of Sunset. We discuss the Kardashians and Fatemehs' preconceived apprehensions and notions ab…
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Temporary roommates Ruthie Alcaide of “The Real World Hawaii” and Sam McGinn from “The Real World San Diego” join Beth Stolarczyk and Jon Brennan for the ultimate Real World season crossover! This conversation gets intriguing as these OG legends discuss how members from different seasons become friends and why Ruthie is crashing at Sam’s place for …
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The Washington State Cougars easily handled Utah State on Saturday in what was a bit of a snoozer -- which is weird when you're talking about a game that was clearly never in doubt. But the team's conservatism seems to be by design, as the Cougs picked up their eighth win in nine games. New Mexico awaits this weekend. The Lobos are a little scary, …
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Sam McGinn of MTV’s The Real World San Diego and MTV’s The Challenge catches up with Jon Brennan and Beth Stolarczyk. She shares her reality tv story and what she thinks about doing another Challenge or The Challenge All Stars in the future. True Story! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices…
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If you listen to Washington State University sports, you’ll hear calls from a Coug who’s returned home: Chris King. Chris graduated in 2009 from the Edward R. Murrow College of Communication, returned to WSU when he took over radio broadcast announcing duties from Matt Chazanow in fall 2024. King came back to Pullman after announcing for minor leag…
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Coho salmon in urban areas were dying from stormwater runoff, but scientists didn’t know why until a few years ago. A team of researchers from Washington State University and University of Washington identified a chemical found in tires as the culprit. Tires contain 6PPD, which keeps the rubber from cracking after exposure to ozone in the atmospher…
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As the Pac-12’s remaining members—Washington State University and Oregon State University—began rebuilding the conference, WSU President Kirk Schulz announced in June 2024 that Anne McCoy was the new permanent athletics director. McCoy hit the ground running earlier in the year as interim AD, since she has worked for WSU Athletics since 2001 in alm…
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Washington State didn't play its best game, but once again, the Cougars found a way to survive and win -- this time against San Diego State. The Aztecs surprised the Cougs with a pass-heavy attack, while the offense again had one of its lulls. But both sides of the ball came alive in time to pick up another win and stay on track for a quality bowl …
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