Dan Bowen and Ray Fleming are experienced education renegades who have worked in many various educational institutions and educational companies across the world. They talk about Artificial Intelligence in Education - what it is, how it works, and the different ways it is being used. It's not too serious, or too technical, and is intended to be a good conversation. Please note the views on the podcast are our own or those of our guests, and not of our respective employers (unless we say othe ...
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Tutor, Teacher, Cheater: What Students Really Think About AI
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31:32New Series Alert - all about students In the kickoff episode of Series 12, Dan and Ray set the stage for a deep dive into AI from the student's perspective. Why are students confused about AI? How are they actually using it - and how should they be using it? The hosts explore the idea that AI can act as a tutor, a teacher, or a shortcut (a "cheater…
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From Hollywood to Healthcare: AI That Cares
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33:26In this special solo-hosted episode, Ray is joined by Dr. Mike Seymour from the University of Sydney, recorded live at the 2025 AI in Higher Education Symposium. You can find Mike through LinkedIn and the University of Sydney Mike shares captivating insights from his work in digital humans - lifelike AI avatars that can support learning, healthcare…
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In this episode of the AI in Education Podcast, Ray and Dan return from a short break with a packed roundup of AI developments across education and beyond. They discuss the online launch of the AEIOU interdisciplinary research hub that Dan attended, explore the promise and pitfalls of prompt engineering—including the idea of the “Uber prompt”—and s…
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Designing the Future: Learning Designers Meet AI
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48:23Series 11, Episode 11 Designing the Future: Learning Designers Meet AI with Minh Huynh and Cory Dal Ponte In this episode of the AI in Education Podcast, we bring you two powerful conversations that explore the evolving role of learning designers and their growing impact in the world of AI-enabled education. Together, these two interviews reveal th…
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From BYO AI to the Turing Test: What Just Happened in Education?
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32:12This week, Dan and Ray dive into a whirlwind of AI news shaking up the education world. From $40K private schools with AI tutors to universities reporting chatbot-driven grade boosts, they unpack what’s hype and what’s happening. Plus, they explore the ethics of AI image generation, energy use in data centers, and whether GPT-4.5 is now officially …
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How two people built an AI tool for 15,000 students
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43:44Yet again, Dan and Ray are the podcast hosts, but Ray’s AI digital twin introduces the episode! This week's guests are: Lee Barrett – Prompt Engineer and AI Advocate at CEnet. Prem Radhakrishnan – AI Technical Manager at CEnet. This episode is a two-level deep dive into the development and deployment of CEchat, an AI-powered chatbot designed to red…
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News & Research: The Global Shift from Policy to Practice
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45:51News Stories Covered in the Episode AI Typing Like a Human? – Graham Clay’s LinkedIn post on ChatGPT Operator mimicking human keystrokes https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7292163775963557888/ The Vatican on AI Ethics – “Antiqua et Nova” report on AI, human intelligence, and ethics in education Sacerdotus: Vatican's New Document o…
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78,000 Students, One Bold AI Ambition- Leigh Williams
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51:16In this episode of AI in Education, Dan and Ray sit down with Leigh Williams, CIO of Brisbane Catholic Education, to dive into one of the most ambitious AI rollouts in Australian schools. With 78,000 students and 13,000 staff, Leigh and her team implemented Microsoft Copilot at scale—reducing teacher workloads by 9+ hours per week and even boosting…
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Education in an AI age - Graham Brown-Martin
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51:08Dan and Ray welcome Graham Brown Martin, a seasoned expert in education technology, for a very(!) thought-provoking conversation about navigating education in the rapidly evolving age of artificial intelligence. In this episode: Discover Graham's journey through multiple technological revolutions—from early mainframes and pioneering laser-disc tech…
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From Butterflies to Bias: Dr. Nici Sweaney on Building Responsible AI in Schools
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43:22In this episode Dan and Ray sit down with Dr. Nici (Nikki) Sweaney—founder of “AI Her Way,” gender equality advocate, and globally recognized AI consultant. After a fascinating career journey from butterfly ecology to statistics to AI, Nici now helps schools and organizations create ethical, responsible, and effective AI strategies. She shares her …
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Faculty Perspectives on AI with Digital Education Council's Danny Bielik
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30:45In this episode, Ray and Dan are joined by Danny Bielik, President of the Digital Education Council, to discuss the findings of a global AI faculty survey. With insights from 52 institutions across 28 countries, Danny shares how higher education faculty are adopting AI, the biggest concerns around academic integrity and assessment, and why AI liter…
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Book Club Podcast? Before we even got to the News and Research, this week we discussed the AI-related books we're currently reading: Dan's reading: Where Good Ideas Come From, by Steven Johnson (TED Talk) Why Data Science Projects Fail, by Douglas Gray and Evan Shellshear (An interview with Evan) Ray's reading The Atlas of AI: Power, Politics, and …
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AI Excellence: A Conversation with Katie Ford
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38:30This week we get to catch up with Katie Ford of Microsoft Australia, who tells us about the projects that have been happening in AI in Education around Australia, and shares some of the lessons learnt from the projects as well as what she is learning through her own research focus. The examples Katie discusses are: Tasmania Department of Education:…
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Reflecting on 2024 and Predicting the Year Ahead
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31:41And we're back! After a relaxing summer holiday Down Under (the school year finishes late December and doesn't restart until after the end of January in Australia) we've made it back to the studio to talk again. In this first episode of the 2025 'AI in Education' podcast, hosts Dan Bowen and Ray Fleming reflect on the major events and developments …
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We look back on the highlights of 2024, and the mass of stories, challenges and inspirations we had throughout the year. And what a year - AI in education has been moving so fast we even invited two digital AI podcasters to take over half the episode. And, worryingly, they did an amazing job - listen for yourself... We're going to take a break over…
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A heap of news stories this week means we didn't cover any research at all! AI isn’t a tool, it’s an environment by Josh Thorpe https://wonkhe.com/blogs/ai-isnt-a-tool-its-an-environment/ Australian Senate report into Adoption of AI https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Senate/Adopting_Artificial_Intelligence_AI/AdoptingAI/Report…
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This week's episode discussed the new AI toolkit for generative AI strategies from Australia's Higher Education regulator, TEQSA The full toolkit is available here: https://www.teqsa.gov.au/guides-resources/resources/corporate-publications/gen-ai-strategies-australian-higher-education-emerging-practice During the episode we referenced some of the p…
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Everybody or Nobody is using AI - News and Research
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36:03Everybody or Nobody is using AI - News and ResearchSeries 10, Episode 8 We explore quite a lot of news related to AI in Education that arrived this week, which meant we didn't get to cover nearly as many academic research papers as we'd hoped. Oh well, there's still 4 episodes left this year to catch up 😊 News Open AI released a course for teachers…
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AI - Study Buddy or Influencer? with Miriam Scott
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30:36This week's episode is a discussion of the Australian Parliamentary report on AI in Education, "Studdy Buddy or Influencer?". The report highlights both the opportunities and challenges GenAI presents, focusing on student and teacher perspectives, ethical considerations, regulatory approaches, and potential solutions. The report makes many recommen…
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Deception and Deepfakes - News & Research
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24:26Another News & Research episode this week, and lots of interesting links and research discussed. Here's the weblinks for everything! News Deception and Deepfakes - How genAI is Changing Cyber Safety Course: https://spsc.thinkific.com/courses/take/deceptionanddeepfakes/ Leon Furzes online course, where he made a free course about deepfakes hosted by…
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In September, the Toddle team organised "AI for AussieEd", a week-long series of professional development sessions for teachers, which had thousands of attendees for the virtual sessions. This episode "Driving Innovation in Australian Schools" was part of the week, and brings you the experiences of three educators, in conversation with podcast host…
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This week's episode has a lot more news than research. But the research that we spend a bit of time on is the insights on how students in Australian universities are using AI. Really good insights for any educator or leader! News AI Detectors Falsely Accuse Students of Cheating—With Big Consequences https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2024-10-1…
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Series 10, Episode 3 This week's episode is an interview with Dr Anna Denejkina, who's an interdisciplinary researcher and Associate Director at The Insight Centre. We discuss her research on youth engagement with generative AI. The conversation explores the multifaceted impact of AI technology in education, addressing benefits such as upskilling a…
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AI Research - Apostles, Agnostics and Atheists
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31:58This week we cover a range of AI in Education related news and academic research papers. Here's all the links you need to read more about each of the topics we dicussed: News Australia's Voluntary AI Safety Standard In September the Australian Government published: Voluntary AI Safety Standard (68pg): https://www.industry.gov.au/publications/volunt…
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Welcome to the first Episode of Series 10, where we are going to take some time to review some of the fundamental changes we're going to be seeing as AI becomes more pervasive. In this Episode we're taking a different approach, with Dan and Ray using Google's NotebookLM to create AI-delivered mini-podcasts about each other, which leads to a discuss…
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South Australia's EdChat - One Giant leap for AI in Australia
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40:00This week we're joined by the brains behind South Australia's EdChat chatbot. It was the first state in Australia to start pilot a custom built generative AI chatbot for their schools, and we spent some time with the team to understand the success story. In the podcast, we heard from Simon Chapman (Director of Digital Architecture and Operations) a…
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Unbelievably, it's our 5th Anniversary (AI-nniversary?) and to mark the milestone of an AI podcast that's had more pivots than a robot's legs, and more chat than a chatbot, we've pulled together some of the top episodes from the 108 episodes of the podcast so far, and got the band back together (regretfully, we were unable to persuade Beth Worral, …
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More Comp Sci research! News and Research - Episode 10 of Series 9
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32:59News This week's news we rushed through includes "Study Buddy or Influencer?", the Australian Parliamentary Inquiry into the use of Gen AI in the Australia Education System https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/House/Employment_Education_and_Training/AIineducation/Report NSW EduChat has been extended for all teachers in all New S…
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Assessment and Swiss Cheese - Phill Dawson - Episode 9 of Series 9
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36:01This week's guest is Professor Phillip Dawson, who is Co-Director of the Centre for Research in Assessment and Digital Learning at Deakin University in Australia. In addition to Phill's website, we recommend following Phill on LinkedIn, or Twitter, where shares a lot of his work on the future of assessment, and also his passion project - The Peer R…
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Series 9, Episode 9 - Homework and Sex News How do people actually use ChatGPT? How do people use ChatGPT? We analyzed real AI chatbot conversations - The Washington Post Make AI tools to reduce teacher workloads, tech companies urged https://www.theguardian.com/education/article/2024/aug/28/make-ai-tools-to-reduce-teacher-workloads-tech-companies-…
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Series 9 Episode 7 - Rose Luckin - Satnav for the mind?
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31:59This week we hear from Professor Rose Luckin, from University College London and Educate Ventures Research In the podcast, Rose mentioned the 1% project in Finland from 2020 - here's some reporting on it Through Educate Ventures Research there are a range of AI consultancy and training services for schools, including the AI Readiness Online Course …
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Series 9 Episode 6 - News and Research - Academic Integrity again...
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28:21News TEQSA's new paper on Academic Integrity & AI The evolving risk to academic integrity posed by generative artificial intelligence: Options for immediate action https://www.teqsa.gov.au/sites/default/files/2024-08/evolving-risk-to-academic-integrity-posed-by-generative-artificial-intelligence.pdf State of Generative AI in the Enterprise: An Aust…
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From Pod to Stage - Where to Find Dan and Ray Next
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5:28BONUS EPISODE ! We'd love to meet more of our listeners in person, so here's a list of events over the next few weeks when Dan, Ray, or Dan and Ray are speaking about AI in Education. One of the things that makes the podcast special is the amazing stories we get from our guests, and there's more stories than fit into an episode, and we're always on…
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From Burnout to Breakthrough: Amanda Bickerstaff on AI's Role in Education
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31:10In this episode of the AI in Education podcast, hosts Dan and Ray welcome Amanda Bickerstaff, an experienced educator, keynote speaker, researcher, and founder of AI for Education. Amanda shares her journey from traditional teaching to embracing AI during her time in Australia and the US. She explains the transformative potential of generative AI i…
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"AI Is Here to Help, Not to Replace Anybody" says Researcher - Series 9 Episode 3
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29:17Holy smokes, we missed the party that should have been Episode 100! So now we're going to have a belated party episode later. Oh well, this week's episode is not to be stopped, so yet again Dan and Ray discuss the most interesting research on the use of AI in Education from the recent publications. But before that we started with a quick news summa…
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Anthony England - Building a Community of Learning Series 9 Episode 2
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33:18This episode of the AI in Education podcast features an interview with Anthony England, the Director of Innovative Learning Technologies at Pymble Ladies College in Sydney. Anthony, known for his impressive shirt collection and his kind-hearted approach to education, shares his insights on the challenges and opportunities presented by AI in assessm…
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The Search for the Education Holy Grail in NSW - Series 9 Episode 1
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46:20In this episode Dan and Ray speak to Michelle Michael and Dan Hart from the New South Wales Department of Education about their world leading trial of AI, called NSWEduChat. Michelle is the NSW Department of Education Director: Education Support, Rural Initiatives and Gen AI. Her LinkedIn profile is here. Dan is the Head of AI at the NSW DoE. His L…
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From AI Detectors to Heartwarming Help: Two Tales of AI in a school
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28:16From AI Detectors to Heartwarming Help: Two Tales of AI in a school Series 8 Episode 11 In this episode of the AI in Education podcast, hosts Ray Fleming and Dan Bowen interview Martin O'Sullivan, a UK headteacher and lifelong friend of Dan. They talk about two contrasting stories from Martin's school—one highlighting the frustration in the applica…
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Another episode rounding up the latest news and research on AI in Education. The links below go straight to all the news stories and research papers discussed this week NEWS Victorian "Generative Artificial Intelligence Policy" for government schools. https://www2.education.vic.gov.au/pal/generative-artificial-intelligence/policy Meeting the AI Ski…
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Dan Ingvarson - Unpacking AI's Role in Modern Education and Assessment
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37:01Continuing our Series 8, focused on the topic of assessment, and the impact of AI, roving reporter Ray visits Fitzroy, Victoria, to interview Dan Ingvarson, a notable founder and executive consultant in the field of AI in education, whilst co-host Dan (Welsh Dan?) joins remotely. Dan (Ingvarson) discusses his background and extensive work in AI pol…
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Content warning! This episode talks about an academic research paper titled "ChatGPT is bulls**t", and we've not edited the word out - in fact, we've gone to town with it, talking about the different types of it (in the strictest academic sense). So you may not want to play this in the car on your school run! The news item discussed is: Student cra…
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Wow, this week we have a bumper episode with more resources than a GPT factory! Any time we get a guest making their second appearance, and therefore enter our Hall of Fame, then we officially dub them "Friend of the Show". And so this week, we've got Friend of the Show Leon Furze sharing his experiences and expertise. Here are the links and posts …
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This week we set the episode timer for 15 minutes, and managed to get through just five papers before the buzzer went off! So we have plenty more papers to discuss in future episodes... ENHANCING K-12 STUDENTS’ PERFORMANCE IN CHEMISTRY THROUGH CHATGPT-POWERED BLENDED LEARNING IN THE EDUCATION 4.0 ERA https://library.iated.org/view/ORTIZDEZARATE2024…
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Chris Goodall - Assessment, personalisation and chainsaws
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37:31Assessment - Chris Goodall In this episode of the AI Education Podcast, host Dan converses with Chris Goodall, the head of digital education at the Bourne Education Trust in England. They discuss the integration of AI into education, how it can be used to enhance teaching and learning processes, and the impact of personalized AI tools on students a…
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Research Update - 31st May 2024 Honestly folks, we've been trying to keep. We really have. But we have so much great content in the fortnightly (or is it bi-weekly?) interviews, that we've had to bite the bullet and switch to weekly podcasts, so that we can still fit in the Research Updates! Going forwards you'll get a longer interview-style podcas…
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Jason Lodge - Guiding Through Assessments
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29:21This week we continue our series on Assessment and AI. Ray talks with Jason Lodge from The University of Queensland, and who must have the longest business card in Australia, as he's Associate Professor of Educational Psychology in School of Education and Deputy Associate Dean in the Faculty of Humanities, Arts and Social Sciences! The conversation…
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University of Sydney and the future of assessment
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32:59AI and the Future of Assessment: Transforming Educational Practices Episode Overview: In this episode of the AI Education Podcast, hosts Dan and Ray, alongside guests Adam Bridgman and Danny Liu, dive into the evolving landscape of academic assessment in the age of artificial intelligence. Recorded in the University of Sydney's own studios, this di…
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It's time to start a new series, so welcome to Series 8! This episode is the warm up into the series that's going to be focused on Assessment. We'll interview some fascinating people about what's happening in school and university assessment, how we might think differently about assessing students, and what you can be thinking about if you're a tea…
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The season-ending episode for Series 7, this is the fifteenth in the series that started on 1st November last year with the "Regeneration: Human Centred Educational AI" episode. And it's an unbelievable 87th episode for the podcast (which started in September 2019). When we come back with Series 8 after a short break for Easter, we're going to take…
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The University of Sydney's Cogniti AI bot
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33:01This week we talked with Professor Danny Liu and Dr Joanne Hinitt, of The University of Sydney, about the Cogniti AI service that's been created in the university, and how it's being used to support teaching and learning. Danny is a molecular biologist by training, programmer by night, researcher and academic developer by day, and educator at heart…
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