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On You, Me, Empathy, we explore the struggles, the triumphs, the brights and the darks we face as humans trying to be human on this wondrous and overwhelming pale blue dot. You, Me, Empathy was created so that we can be witness to our collective humanity through the lens of empathy, vulnerability, and emotional curiosity. We aim to destigmatize mental health, lead fiercely with our hearts, feel our feelings without shame and judgment, and share our courageous stories so that others may feel ...
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We Can't Do It Alone: We're Mirrors for Each Other (with Sophie Ansari)
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40:52On episode 9 of We Can't Do It Alone, Nōn sits down with illustrator, video creator and podcaster, Sophie Ansari (Podcrushed) to explore the culture of curiosity in the Bahá'í faith, having a life partner who is open to learning, naughty things we did as teenagers and being a hopeful teenager, and why we're mirrors for each other. Helpful things me…
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We Can't Do It Alone: Working Hard and Being Kind (with Daniel Van Kirk)
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48:56On episode 8 of We Can't Do It Alone, Nōn sits down with comedian, actor and writer Daniel Van Kirk to explore human adaptability, why helping is an unspoken part of a single-parent home, the importance of celebrating while we're still in it, and why working hard and being kind gets you the second job. According to Nōn, Daniel is a sweetie pie, eve…
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We Can't Do It Alone: Our Capacity Is Rekindled By Community (with Ess Crossley)
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46:52On episode 7 of We Can't Do It Alone, Nōn sits down with Ess Crossley (he/they) to explore our new project The Feely Cards (out October 22*), how helping sometimes looks like people educating us even if it feels uncomfortable, Ess's transformation from their "women phase" to their beautiful nonbinary trans little bean world, and how our capacity fo…
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We Can't Do It Alone: The Joy and Liberation In Drag (with Eric Dorsa)
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36:20On episode 6 of We Can't Do It Alone, Nōn sits down with Eric Dorsa to talk about their experience as a queer person in recovery (eating disorder, substance), how we silence or diminish parts of ourselves when things are disordered, what it's like to reclaim space in a world where you've felt unseen and unsupported, and how Eric embraces drag as a …
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We Can't Do It Alone: Bookstores Are the Heart of Community (with Sam Robertson)
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33:14On episode 5 of We Can't Do It Alone, Nōn sits down with Sam Robertson to explore the ripple effect of helping, why reading is the best way to strengthen your empathy muscles, why stories are the core of humanity, Sam's experience as an owner of an independent bookshop, and why bookstores are the heart of community. Helpful things mentioned during …
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We Can't Do It Alone: The Life-Saving Helper You've Never Met (with Bill Cole)
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43:15On episode 4 of We Can't Do It Alone, Nōn sits down with Bill Cole to explore coming of age during the AIDS crisis, queer representation in film, the particularly heinous stigma around AIDS, how someone you've never met can be a helper, and the lasting legacy of AIDS activist icon, Stephen Gendin. Helpful things mentioned during this episode: @bill…
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We Can't Do It Alone: Feeling Seen As a Little Queer Kid (with Zee Zelinski)
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37:24On episode 3 of We Can't Do It Alone, Nōn sits down with 20-something neurodivergent queer disabled writer, Zee Zelinski, to explore why we're mosaics of everything and everyone we've ever interacted with, the particular grief of help and helping as a disabled person, gender identity, feeling seen as a little queer kid, and Zee's love letter to poe…
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We Can't Do It Alone: I Am Yours and You Are Mine (with Frederick Joseph)
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38:21On episode 2 of We Can't Do It Alone, Nōn sits down with NY Times bestselling author Frederick Joseph to explore the craft and respite of writing poetry, Black boys and men being whole beings capable of being strong and soft, collective liberation, and how we feel collective care should look like: I am yours and you are mine. Frederick is the autho…
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We Can't Do It Alone: Letting People In (with Giselle Vriesen)
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32:08On episode 1 of We Can't Do It Alone, Nōn sits down with Giselle Vriesen to explore being a first-time author, forgetting oneself in pursuit of creating, holding the darkness and the light, and letting people in to allow them to help us. Giselle is the author of Why We Play With Fire, a mythological adventure story that I absolutely adored. Helpful…
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A little update from Nōn, and a new podcast called We Can't Do It Alone coming July 12! SUPPORT NŌN: Leave a 5-star review Order The Feely Cards Subscribe to We Can't Do It Alone Say helloBy Nōn Wels
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262: Resilience, Ambition, and Acceptance with Emi Nietfeld
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1:22:04On episode 262 of You, Me, Empathy, Emi Nietfeld and I explore society’s obsession with resilience, what happened when Emi edited mental illness out of her college applications, the attachments we have to achievement and ambition, and Emi’s wonderful memoir, Acceptance. Leave a 5-star review Order The Feely Cards Subscribe to We Can't Do It Alone…
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261: Dissociation Made Simple with Dr Jamie Marich
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1:07:34On episode 261 of You, Me, Empathy, Dr. Jamie Marich (she/they) and I explore why safety is never guaranteed, being cool with Jesus but not cool with what the church has done to Jesus, “I don’t know” as one the most spiritual phrases in our vocabulary, and an in-depth look at Dissociative Identity Disorder and why it’s normal to dissociate. Read th…
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260: What It Takes to Bring People Together with traci kato-kiriyama
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1:36:31On episode 260 of You, Me, Empathy, traci kato-kiriyama (they/she) and I explore the empathy rooted in multidisciplinary art spaces, revitalizing and uplifting of Asian-American community and history, facing death every day and the opportunity within death moments, and what it takes to bring people together. Read the full show notes! SUPPORT NŌN: L…
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259: The Hypervigilance of the Caretaker with Christina McKelvy
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1:03:43On episode 259 of You, Me, Empathy, Christina McKelvy and I explore the type of self-care that looks like an abandonment of community, how to embrace your heart rather than your head, living open enough to be heartbroken, and the hypervigilance, anxiety, and burden of the caretaker. Read the full show notes. SUPPORT NŌN: Leave a 5-star review Order…
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258: Life-Changing Friendships with Jake Crawford
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1:17:27On episode 258 of You, Me, Empathy, Jake Crawford and I explore life-changing friendships, growing up as a gay kid in a conservative town, what we do when the people who are supposed to love us don’t accept us, and finding a voice on the stage. Read the full show notes here. SUPPORT NŌN: Leave a 5-star review Order The Feely Cards Subscribe to We C…
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On episode 257 of You, Me, Empathy, Jane Lui (Surrija) and I explore the grief of having to go outside your family to find the affection and love you need, Jane’s magical experience being the opera voice for Michelle Yeoh in Everything Everywhere All At Once, why we’re bound to lose ourselves and find ourselves again and again, and the keys to livi…
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256: The Space Between Things with Brandi Stanley
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1:21:27On episode 256 of You, Me, Empathy, Brandi Stanley and I explore the inclination to share the stuff that lights us up, why our aliveness can’t be at the expense of another person’s aliveness, cutting off parts of ourselves in order to belong (and feel safe), and the mysterious, magical, and paradoxical beauty that exists in the space between things…
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255: A Compassionate Revolt with Traci Medeiros-Bagan
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1:10:00On episode 255 of You, Me, Empathy, Traci Medeiros-Bagan (she/they) and I explore developing trust in our resiliency, examining our own proximity to power, how compartmentalization is its own privilege (and necessity), and sparking compassionate revolts in our hearts and in our communities. Read the full show notes here. SUPPORT NŌN: Leave a 5-star…
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254: Party Freud with Susie Boggess
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1:19:06On episode 254 of You, Me, Empathy, Susie Boggess and I explore the early (and bumpy) days of sharing our mental health stories, knowing how to have conversations where we feel safe, and Party Freud, the card game for people who probably need therapy. Read the full show notes. SUPPORT NŌN: Leave a 5-star review Order The Feely Cards Subscribe to We…
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253: Toxic Positivity and the Privilege of Being Disengaged with Lauren Denitzio
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1:03:25On episode 253 of You, Me, Empathy, Lauren Denitzio (they/them) and I gab about shaking the Etch A Sketch of our lives, how Lauren sparks creativity and hope (and snark) in a world that sometimes feels like a hellscape, toxic positivity and the privilege of being disengaged from the stuff that might make us uncomfortable (e.g. politics, racism, our…
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252: Building an Ecosystem of People Who See You (for You) with Calvin Eaton
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1:04:36On episode 252 of You, Me, Empathy, Calvin Eaton (540 W Main, Just Desserts!) and I explore the hardship of living with a disability in an ableist world, how white supremacy culture (individualism, patriarchy, capitalism, etc.) harms everyone, and building an ecosystem (aka community!) of people who see you and support you. Read the full show notes…
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251: You Could Make This Place Beautiful with Maggie Smith
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1:07:28On episode 251 of You, Me, Empathy, Maggie Smith and I explore making checklists as a way to keep everything in control (and Maggie’s apt childhood nickname, “checky listy”), intellectualizing our feelings vs. feeling our feelings, why looking back at past versions of ourselves requires self-compassion and self-forgiveness, and Maggie’s stunningly …
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250: Building Empathy In a Tech-Obsessed World with Kaitlin Ugolik Phillips
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56:29On episode 250 of You, Me, Empathy, Kaitlin Ugolik Phillips and I explore encouraging our kids to recognize emotions, protecting our hearts while practicing empathy, our embarrassing LiveJournal days, and Kaitlin’s wonderful book, The Future of Feeling: Building Empathy In a Tech-Obsessed World. Read the full show notes at FeelyHuman.co. SUPPORT NŌ…
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249: Resilience That Works with Cathleen Clerkin
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1:05:53On episode 249 of You, Me, Empathy, Cathleen Clerkin, PhD and I explore the myth of the heroic leader, the importance of perspective taking, being idealistic and realistic all at once, and Cathleen’s resilience research, my resilience skepticism, and her book, Resilience That Works. Read the the full podcast show notes here. SUPPORT NŌN: Leave a 5-…
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248: Diversity, Equity, and Muslim Inclusion with Rahimeh Ramezany
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1:26:58On episode 248 of You, Me, Empathy, Rahimeh Ramezany (she/her) and I explore why we’re not going to kindness our way out of injustice, the dangers of being stuck in our desire to be right, and how Rahimeh is advocating for Muslim inclusion and equitable access, and incorporating considerations of religious identity into Diversity, Equity, and Inclu…
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Episode 48 - Obligatory Sports and Rich Guy Report (4/27/22)
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1:19:38Hola everyone in and from the Real Human Bings zone! We love that you are still zoning with us. Here's another Frankensteined episode with some random bits we talked about. Specifically, how we'd fix playoff sports and a rant about rich people and corpos hating on the workers of the world. Yeah, that's right, we're true Marxists now guys. (And don'…
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247: Recognizing Our Humanity In the News with V Spehar
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1:07:29On episode 247 of You, Me, Empathy, V Spehar (they/them) and I explore why asking for help is courageous, the importance of seeing beyond what people are saying, creating boundaries for the information we take in, and recognizing our humanity in the news. Read the full show notes at FeelyHuman.co. SUPPORT NŌN: Leave a 5-star review Order The Feely …
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246: The Vulnerability of Building a Community with Kim Johnson
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1:07:17On episode 246 of You, Me, Empathy, Kim Johnson and I explore the yearning for connection with peers outside of work, the intersection of community and loneliness, how Kim is making community building more accessible with Geneva, and the vulnerability of building community. SUPPORT NŌN: Leave a 5-star review Order The Feely Cards Subscribe to We Ca…
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245: Heartbreak, Love, and Toxic Masculinity with Timothy Goodman
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1:18:10On episode 245 of You, Me, Empathy, Timothy Goodman (artist and author of I Always Think It’s Forever) and I explore heartbreak and the heightened romanticism of new relationships, the vulnerability of opening ourselves up to love, why "service” is Timothy’s word of 2023, and the isolating, dividing, and bypassing power of toxic masculinity. Check …
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244: Grief to Love with Silke Herwald
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1:14:45On episode 244 of You, Me, Empathy, Silke Herwald and I explore the subconscious and grief, how grief intersects with empathy, ways that we can feel more connected to those we’ve lost, and what it means to go from Grief to Love. SUPPORT NŌN: Leave a 5-star review Order The Feely Cards Subscribe to We Can't Do It Alone Disclaimer: You, Me, Empathy i…
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243: A Space to Be Witness to the Whole of Each Other
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20:46On episode 243, Nōn announces the new Feely Human membership community that’s coming January 11, 2023—a space to be witness the whole of each other! Update: The Feely Human community has come to an end. Thanks for the journey! (April 2025) SUPPORT NŌN: Leave a 5-star review Order The Feely Cards Subscribe to We Can't Do It Alone…
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242: Using Our Imagination to Grow Our Empathy with Rory Scovel
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1:15:46On episode 242 of You, Me, Empathy, Rory Scovel (Babylon, Physical, Pen Pals) and I explore how taking care of ourselves helps us better take care of others, confronting the fear of not making the “right” choices, psilocybin as an experience of profound empathy, and using our imaginations to break humans free of the boxes we want to put them in. SU…
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241: Being Vulnerable, Being Grateful, and Being Trans with Jeffrey Jay
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1:08:24On episode 241 of You, Me, Empathy, Jeffrey Jay (he/him) and I explore comedy as a way to process feelings, the little moments of gratitude before we continue our fight for progress, why Jeffrey felt safe enough to talk about being trans (and the privilege and intersectionality wrapped up in that), and the hit podcast, Being Trans, and how Jeffrey’…
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240: We All Have Bias with Liz Kleinrock
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1:03:29On episode 240 of You, Me, Empathy, Liz Kleinrock (she/her) and I explore why bias is one of the things we humans all have in common, why unlearning is often harder than learning, and what anti-bias and anti-racist work looks like in the classroom. SUPPORT NŌN: Leave a 5-star review Order The Feely Cards Subscribe to We Can't Do It Alone…
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239: Kids Are the Original Feely Humans with Hannah and Kelty
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1:20:38On episode 239 of You, Me, Empathy, Hannah and Kelty (founders of Upbringing.co) and I explore their codependence as twins growing up, how parenting is like improv, shifting our focus from how children are behaving to how they are feeling, and why kids are the original feely humans. SUPPORT NŌN: Leave a 5-star review Order The Feely Cards Subscribe…
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238: Pro-Abortion and Pro-Baking By Feel with Becca Rea-Tucker
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1:12:42On episode 238 of You, Me, Empathy, Becca Rea-Tucker (@thesweetfeminist) and I explore the journey of being seen for who we are, destigmatizing abortion (sometimes with cakes) to reduce shame and help others feel less alone, and baking as a way to process feelings with the help of Becca’s magical new cookbook, Baking By Feel. SUPPORT NŌN: Leave a 5…
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237: Bad Vibes Only with Nora McInerny
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1:13:43On episode 237 of You, Me, Empathy, Nora McInerny and I explore why nothing matters and everything matters all at once, the tension between your personal value and what you create, the loneliness of being an adult, how Nora’s grief has impacted her empathy, and Nora’s hilarious and heartwarming new book, Bad Vibes Only. SUPPORT NŌN: Leave a 5-star …
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236: What Are We Willing to Risk For Love? with Mansi Choksi
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1:06:04On episode 236 of You, Me, Empathy, Mansi Choksi (author of The Newlyweds) and I explore arranged marriage in India, love as a revolutionary act, the emotional, cultural, and familial consequences of marrying against tradition, and what we are willing to risk for love. SUPPORT NŌN: Leave a 5-star review Order The Feely Cards Subscribe to We Can't D…
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Episode 47.5 - BillBurr Baggins and the Stuck up Canadians (3/15/2022)
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22:10What ho fine travelers! Let the RHBer's bend your ear a while and regale you with random ramblings cut from a full episode! This time, Mr. Murdock commits foul crimes in Buffalo, the new Twilight Zone is mentioned in the briefest of cameos, and the boys realize that Bill Burr's name said quickly sounds like Bilbo the hobbit. Last, a shallow dive in…
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235: Brave Trails with Jessica Weissbuch
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1:06:15On episode 235 of You, Me, Empathy, Jessica Weissbuch and I explore the healing that happens in spaces where we’re seen and heard, the wisdom and beauty in listening to kids, the life-changing moment in childhood when Jessica found a swastika on her driveway, and the truly life-saving magic that is Brave Trails. SUPPORT NŌN: Leave a 5-star review O…
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Episode 47 - The Man who is a Bat (3/15/2022)
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1:15:41Whoa, look out! The Vampire Vigilante is out! (Get it? Cuz Bobby Pattinson was also in Twilight?) It's a whole new Batman movie, called "The Batman" this time so don't get confused. It's like that whole thing with "The Suicide Squad" right? A conversations months long in the making between the Bings is included because it's so epic! Or is that tepi…
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Yo dawg, this edit's loose and light today so get on in there! The Bings do their annual tradition of reading each other's fortunes by the Chinese calendar from a random internet site. Will Jacob ever get a good romance year? Will Aulden regret his decision to buy a house? On deck is a cruise through the AARP's Movies for Grownups awards. (Who knew…
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234: Decolonizing Therapy with Dr. Jennifer Mullan
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1:37:10On episode 234 of You, Me, Empathy, Dr. Jennifer Mullan and I explore staying open enough to be overwhelmed, why burnout is understandable but not natural, what happens when there isn’t space to have big feelings (especially for BIPOC, queer, non-binary, marginalized humans), and decolonizing therapy and capitalism’s toxic influence on the mental h…
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233: High Risk Humans with Madison Thorn
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1:17:12On Episode 233 of You, Me, Empathy, Madison Thorn and I explore why fixing all the problems of others doesn’t lead to being seen and loved, the near-death experience of being diagnosed with Type 1 diabetes at 27 years old, and how a sign that said “sacrifice the weak” inspired Madison to create the High Risk Humans photography series—sharing the st…
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232: Relationship Empathy, Married At First Sight, and The 4 Intimacy Styles with Dr. Viviana Coles
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58:53On Episode 232 of You, Me, Empathy, Dr. Viviana Coles and I explore the performing we do early in relationships, the adorable story of how Viviana met her husband, what Viviana has learned about human connection and empathy in relationships through being a panelist on the television show, Married At First Sight, and Viviana’s wonderful new book, Th…
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Episode 45 - Wheely Feelies (12/11/21)
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1:20:39The wheel winds and the wheel winds some more and then I guess it keeps going? Our impression of the first episode of "Wheel of Time"? It's pretty circular if you ask me. An expert (Aulden) and a novice (Jacob) for one of the most popular fantasy series of all time took a look and have some thoughts. Are they interesting thoughts? Eh. Also, we fini…
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231: More Than You See with Deborah Lee Smith
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1:11:36On Episode 231 of You, Me, Empathy, Deborah Lee Smith (she/her) and I explore learning how to listen to our bodies, what it’s like to experience a prolonged panic attack, why there’s no shame or failure in divorce, and how there’s always more than you see—if only we look, listen, soften, and be curious. SUPPORT NŌN: Leave a 5-star review Order The …
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Episode 44 - Oops all dune (11/13/21)
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1:21:10Wowie this was a long one to finish. It was bit cursed with a lot of work having to get done on it, almost like Denis didn't want our lukewarm takes about this movie to be out there! (*Gasp*) Yes we are indeed speaking about the 2021 Oscar nominated film "Dune" with a special guest, Marc Schermerhorn! We touch on our histories with Dune the propert…
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230: Raising the Volume On Voices That Matter with Rebekah Borucki
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1:16:35On Episode 230 of You, Me, Empathy, Rebekah Borucki (she/they) and I explore how strangers are the family we haven’t gotten to know yet, the fascinating differences between our respective religious upbringings, the intricacies of privilege, and how Row House Publishing is raising the volume on voices that matter. SUPPORT NŌN: Leave a 5-star review …
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229: Romance Books As a Salve for Grief with Kate Spencer
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1:08:17On Episode 229 of You, Me, Empathy, Kate Spencer and I explore Kate’s undying love for Phish, the feeling of trying to sell our creative work during such a collectively traumatic time in our history, Kate’s delightful new romance novel, In a New York Minute, and why the romance genre can be a salve for grief and provide some momentary relief from t…
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