Best Maritime Professorᵀᴹ Podcasts (2025)

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How New FMC Moves, A Safer Suez, And A Court Ruling Could Reshape Your Supply Chain 32:22

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Big policy moves rarely arrive one at a time. We dig into a trio of shifts changing how shippers, carriers, and NVOCCs plan: the FMC’s latest civil penalty settlements, early signs of a safer Suez Canal, and a targeted court decision that trims—but doesn’t topple—the detention and demurrage billing rule. Each story stands on its own, but together t…

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Boston To Beijing: Maritime Strategy Now 22:52

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From Buzzards Bay to Beijing — this week was all about maritime strategy in motion. Lauren recaps highlights from the Second Annual Massachusetts Maritime Strategy Conference, where federal and state leaders worked to align the Commonwealth with other states developing maritime strategies. From workforce pipelines to new ideas like a State House Of…

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Dr. Sal goes to Washington; a conversation with Sal Mercogliano fresh off his Senate hearing appearance 1:34:42

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Fresh off the Senate’s Sea Change: Reviving Commercial Shipbuilding hearing this week, Dr. Sal Mercogliano joins us to share everything he didn’t get to say on the record. We unpack his “Ships for America” warning, his proposal for a Maritime Reserves program, and what he hopes to see in the upcoming Maritime Action Plan due November 5. Then we tur…

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FMC Nominees & the Arctic Watch: The Future of Maritime Policy and Chokepoints 24:44

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Senate hearings meet Arctic geopolitics. This week’s episode breaks down how U.S. maritime nominees outlined plans to rebuild industrial strength and restore competitiveness—while Russia and China formalized their Northern Sea Route partnership, raising questions about access, influence, and the future of global chokepoints. Expanded Description: I…

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China’s Maritime Tit-for-Tat: The Trade War Moves to the Waterfront 37:54

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Headlines scream trade war, but our radar shows choreography. We unpack how the U.S. Section 301 vessel fees and China’s mirrored port charges operate like a controlled conversation—clear signals with tight guardrails—while cargo keeps moving and markets recalibrate. From exemptions and caps to first-port-only assessments, we trace why this design …

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When Trade Shifts, Data Steers: Lessons from Quebec City (AAPA Convention) 21:17

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This week’s episode connects the dots between ports, policy, and technology — from new AI cargo safety tools to China’s retaliatory port fees and the U.S.–Finland icebreaker deal. Fresh off the AAPA Annual Convention in Quebec City, Lauren breaks down how smart strategy means more than new tech — it’s about translation, visibility, and human insigh…

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Ports, Policy, and People: A Conversation with Carl Bentzel (NAWE) 55:11

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If you’ve ever wondered how “90% of everything” actually reaches your doorstep, this conversation pulls back the curtain. I’m joined by Carl Bentzel—former FMC Commissioner and now Executive Director of the National Association of Waterfront Employers (NAWE)—to explain what terminal operators really do, why they’re the hub of the entire logistics e…

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Building Maritime Strength: A Conversation with Shipyard Expert Caitlin Hardy of Ness Sea Consulting 46:25

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🎧 Short Summary Shipyards sit at the very heart of America’s maritime future, operating as both industrial engines and strategic assets essential to national security. In this conversation with Caitlin Hardy, Founder of Ness Sea Consulting, we explore the challenges and opportunities in rebuilding U.S. shipbuilding capacity, the lessons commercial …

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Ships, Fees, and Thieves: The New Maritime Chessboard 30:03

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Season 5 of By Land and By Sea continues with a Captain’s Log edition—a fast, plain-language rundown of the biggest moves reshaping U.S. maritime policy and global shipping. The maritime landscape is being reshaped through deliberate U.S. policy shifts targeting China's global port network, the United States implementing new vessel fees, WSC addres…

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Balancing Innovation and Tradition: A Conversation with Acting Maritime Administrator Sang Yi 41:53

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Season 5 kicks off with Acting Maritime Administrator Sang Yi, bringing his merchant marine background, Navy Reserve service, and policy expertise to MARAD at a pivotal time. We discuss the success of the NSMV/VCM program, the rebirth of Hanwha Philly Shipyard, and how innovation and tradition can move together in U.S. maritime. With new FMC nomine…

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S4.E29 - Season Finale: Maritime Voices, Industry Debates, FMC Budget, and What’s Next 1:02:47

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🚢 By Land and By Sea Podcast – an attorney breaking down the week in supply chain 🎙️ Captain’s Log – “Season Finale: Maritime Voices, Industry Debates, and What’s Next” 🗓️ Week of July 26, 2025 The Maritime Professor® presents By Land and By Sea Podcast – an attorney breaking down the week in supply chain with Lauren Beagen (Founder of The Maritime…

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S4.E28 - Trade Turbulence and Tech Advances 33:47

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🚢 By Land and By Sea Podcast – an attorney breaking down the week in supply chain 🎙️ Captain’s Log – “Trade Turbulence and Tech Advances” 🗓️ Week of July 11, 2025 The Maritime Professor® presents By Land and By Sea Podcast – an attorney breaking down the week in supply chain with Lauren Beagen (Founder of The Maritime Professor® and Squall Strategi…

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S4.E27 - FMC’s Order to Show Cause: What’s Really Going On? 31:03

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🚢 By Land and By Sea Podcast – an attorney breaking down the week in supply chain 🎙️ Captain’s Log – “FMC’s Order to Show Cause: What’s Really Going On?” 🗓️ Week of July 3, 2025 The Maritime Professor® presents By Land and By Sea Podcast - an attorney breaking down the week in supply chain with Lauren Beagen (Founder of The Maritime Professor® and …

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S4.E26 - FMC departures to Icebreakers to AI Customs Tools 31:39

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🚢 By Land and By Sea Podcast – an attorney breaking down the week in supply chain 🎙️ Captain’s Log – “Tariffs, Icebreakers, and the FMC Changing Guard” 🗓️ Week of June 27, 2025 The Maritime Professor® presents By Land and By Sea Podcast – a podcast breaking down the regulatory side of global shipping, hosted by maritime attorney Lauren Beagen (Foun…

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S4.E25 - Ports, Policy, and Polar Ambitions 31:14

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🚢 By Land and By Sea Podcast – an attorney breaking down the week in supply chain 🎙️ Captain’s Log – “Ports, Policy, and Polar Ambitions” 🗓️ June 13, 2025 The Maritime Professor® presents By Land and By Sea Podcast – an attorney breaking down the week in supply chain with Lauren Beagen (Founder of The Maritime Professor® and Squall Strategies®) Thi…

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S4.E24 - Advisory Committees, Tariff Whiplash, and Harbor Safety Committees 17:36

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🚢 By Land and By Sea Podcast – an attorney breaking down the week in supply chain 🎙️ Captain’s Log – “Advisory Power, Tariff Whiplash, and Harbor Safety” 🗓️ May 30, 2025 The Maritime Professor® presents By Land and By Sea Podcast – an attorney breaking down the week in supply chain with Lauren Beagen (Founder of The Maritime Professor® and Squall S…

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S4.E23 - Flags, Fees, and a Maritime Holiday 35:30

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🚢 By Land and By Sea Podcast – an attorney breaking down the week in supply chain 🎙️ Captain’s Log – “Flags, Fees, and a Maritime Holiday” 🗓️ May 23, 2025 Ahoy! This week, we’re covering three stories every maritime professional should know: ⚓ Section 301 Tariffs — USTR shifts focus to port equipment with proposed tariffs up to 100% on Chinese-made…

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S4.E22 - Captain's Log: Don't miss these deadlines! Maritime Chokepoints (May 13) and Ship-to-Shore cranes/chassis/containers (May 19), and... Ships Act reintroduction and new MARAD nominee 35:28

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🚢 By Land and By Sea Podcast Topic of the Week (5/9/24): 🎙️ New Episode: "Don't miss these deadlines! Maritime Chokepoints (May 13) and Ship-to-Shore cranes/chassis/containers (May 19)" The Maritime Professor® presents By Land and By Sea - an attorney breaking down the week in supply chain with Lauren Beagen (Founder of The Maritime Professor® and …

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S4.E21 - Captain's Log - FMC reviews shadow fleets and controlled carriers // shipbuilding EO // USTR recommendations (pre-release) 35:48

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🚢 By Land and By Sea – Captain’s Log: What You Missed in Maritime This Week ⚓️ 🎙 Episode Date: April 17, 2025 There's a LOT going on - let me point out a few things under the radar, and discuss a few of the hot topics you're already watching... We’ve got seven top stories that signal a decisive shift in U.S. maritime strategy. ⚓ The Maritime Profes…

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S4.E20 - Captain’s Log: What You Missed While You Were Distracted by Trade Tariffs This Week 19:05

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🚢 By Land and By Sea – Captain’s Log: What You Missed While You Were Distracted by Trade Tariffs This Week ⚓️ 🎙 Episode Date: April 4, 2025 Trade tariffs stole the spotlight—but there was a lot more happening out of the spotlight. In this Captain’s Log, we cover what you may have missed.. ⚓ The Maritime Professor® presents By Land and By Sea Podcas…

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S4.E19 - USTR Sec 301 Hearings & Everything Else You Missed This Week 42:28

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Topic of the Week (3/28/25): Doesn’t it feel like there’s a LOT happening in maritime right now? This week was dominated by the USTR 301 tariff hearings, but don’t worry, we’re covering that and everything else you missed! Let’s dive in. ⚓ The Maritime Professor® presents By Land and By Sea Podcast 🎙️ – an attorney breaking down the week in supply …

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S4.E18 - Navigating Global Maritime Choke Points: FMC's Investigation into Unfair Shipping Conditions 42:31

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Topic of the Week (3/21/25): Does the FMC really have the authority to review global maritime chokepoints? Yes! And even more significantly, they can turn away foreign vessels from U.S. ports or assess $1M per voyage penalties if they find unfavorable shipping conditions. Now that the FMC investigation has been released, let’s dive in! Want to know…

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S4.E17 - Special Guest: Commissioner Dye reveals how principles, not regulations, transform maritime commerce. 1:05:15

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Commissioner Rebecca Dye offers a rare and fascinating glimpse into the inner workings of maritime regulation and supply chain innovation. Drawing from her extraordinary career journey – from Coast Guard officer to Congressional counsel to FMC Commissioner – she reveals how personal experience and thoughtful study have shaped her distinctive approa…

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We're off to TPM25 - we'll be back March 14th! 2:01

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🚢 TPM25 is here! 🌍 As we gear up for this exciting event, we’ll be taking a short break from the By Land and By Sea Podcast this week. 🎤 And with our return from TPM25 next week, we’ll be off-air again. But don’t fret! ⏳ We’ll be diving back into our conversations on March 14th! Can’t wait to see you then! 🎧 Catch up on past episodes anytime - chec…

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S4.E16 - Holidays and Weekends subject to Detention and Demurrage billing? FMC has something NEW to say about it... 44:21

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Topic of the Week (2/21/25): Did the FMC just clear up D&D billing on holidays and weekends? Yes, but don’t count your chickens yet—it may still be fluid… ⚓ The Maritime Professor® presents By Land and By Sea Podcast 🎙️ – an attorney breaking down the week in supply chain with Lauren Beagen (Founder of The Maritime Professor® and Squall Strategies®…

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S4.E15 - Is the FMC the secret weapon in the Panama Canal discussions? 42:00

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Topic of the Week (2/14/25): Is the FMC the backup quarterback for the Panama Canal discussions? The answer isn’t no, and it might just be yes. Let’s talk about it. ⚓ The Maritime Professor® presents By Land and By Sea Podcast 🎙️ – an attorney breaking down the week in supply chain with Lauren Beagen (Founder of The Maritime Professor® and Squall S…

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S4.E.14 - Captain's Log Edition (incl. what is the FMC's role in the Panama Canal discussion? an unfavorable conditions review...) 43:57

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Topic of the Week (1/31/25): There's a lot of maritime news hitting at the same time! Tune in to hear my take on it all. ⚓ The Maritime Professor® presents By Land and By Sea Podcast 🎙️ - an attorney breaking down the week in supply chain with Lauren Beagen (Founder of The Maritime Professor® and Squall Strategies®) Let's dive in... 1 - Federal Mar…

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S4.E13 - What I'm watching in 2025... 23:40

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Topic of the Week (1/17/25): Let's talk about a few things I'm watching for 2025 ⚓ The Maritime Professor® presents By Land and By Sea Podcast 🎙️ - an attorney breaking down the week in supply chain with Lauren Beagen (Founder of The Maritime Professor® and Squall Strategies®) Let's dive in... 1 - Federal Maritime Commission - Petition Updates (Mot…

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S4.E11 - ILA and USMX ink a deal! 35:14

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Topic of the Week (1/10/25): The continuing saga of the INTERNATIONAL LONGSHOREMENS ASSOCIATION and the UNITED STATES MARITIME ALLIANCE LIMITED has come to a conclusion - a new Master Contract has been agreed to! ⚓ The Maritime Professor® presents By Land and By Sea Podcast 🎙️ - an attorney breaking down the week in supply chain with Lauren Beagen …

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S4.E11 - Captain's Log Edition (Maritime Legislation Unveiled: SHIPS Act, FMC Rulemakings, and Strategic Alliances) 30:32

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Send us a text Support the show 🎙️ Thanks for tuning in to By Land and By Sea powered by The Maritime Professor®! If you enjoyed today’s episode, be sure to subscribe ⭐ and leave a review 📝 - it really helps others find the show. 📚 Want to go deeper? Check out our live webinars, on-demand e-courses, and our Just-in-Time Learning™ sessions -- short,…

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S4.E10 - Captain's Log Edition (Truckers have entered the chat on the FMC Rule Petitions... & an ILA & USMX Update) 24:26

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Topic of the Week (12/13/24): A mash up of current stories in global ocean shipping! It's the Captain's Log Holiday Series! 🎅 ⚓ The Maritime Professorᵀᴹ presents By Land and By Sea Podcast 🎙️ - an attorney breaking down the week in supply chain with Lauren Beagen (Founder of The Maritime Professorᵀᴹ and Squall Strategiesᵀᴹ) Let's dive in... 1 - Fed…

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S4.E9 - Captain's Log Holiday Series (FMC Rule Petitions Update // ILA Update // Chairman Dye?? // NSAC Meeting Highlights // FMC & Spain) 43:22

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Topic of the Week (12/6/24): A mash up of current stories in global ocean shipping! It's the Captain's Log Holiday Series! 🎅 ⚓ The Maritime Professorᵀᴹ presents By Land and By Sea Podcast 🎙️ - an attorney breaking down the week in supply chain with Lauren Beagen (Founder of The Maritime Professorᵀᴹ and Squall Strategiesᵀᴹ) Let's dive in... 1 - Fede…

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S4.E8 - Captain's Log Edition (FMC Rule Petitions Update // ILA Update // Comm'r leaving FMC) 23:18

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Topic of the Week (11/22/24): We're almost into the holidays so let's do a quick Captain's Log run down of recent stories in supply chain! ⚓ The Maritime Professorᵀᴹ presents By Land and By Sea Podcast 🎙️ - an attorney breaking down the week in supply chain with Lauren Beagen (Founder of The Maritime Professorᵀᴹ and Squall Strategiesᵀᴹ) Let's dive …

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S4.E7 - New Leadership, New Direction: What a New President and Political Shift Mean for the FMC 30:02

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Topic of the Week (11/8/24): What happens to Federal Maritime Commission and U.S. Department of Transportation and Maritime Administration (MARAD) leadership and political appointees now that we have a change in political party in the Executive Office of the President... 🚢💼 Plum Book: https://www.opm.gov/about-us/open-government/plum-reporting/plum…

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S4.E6 - Captain's Log Edition (FMC Rulemaking Roundup // Final Rule Petitions Updates // ILA & USMX Updates // Global Alliances Updates) 32:49

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Topic of the Week (11/1/24): Breaking down the top stories of the week in the 🚢 Captain's Log! ⚓ The Maritime Professorᵀᴹ presents By Land and By Sea Podcast 🎙️ - an attorney breaking down the week in supply chain with Lauren Beagen (Founder of The Maritime Professorᵀᴹ and Squall Strategiesᵀᴹ) Let's dive in... 1 - Federal Maritime Commission - Rule…

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S4.E5 - FMC Meeting and D&D Petition Update 52:19

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Topic of the Week (10/25/24): The FMC held their Commission Meeting this week - let's break down the highlights The Maritime Professorᵀᴹ presents By Land and By Sea Podcast - an attorney breaking down the week in supply chain with Lauren Beagen (Founder of The Maritime Professorᵀᴹ and Squall Strategiesᵀᴹ) Let's dive in... 1- FMC Rulemaking Roundup …

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S4.E4 - ILA/USMX Interim Agreement Filed... at the FMC?!? 26:37

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Topic of the Week (10/18/24): Did you know that the USMX-ILA interim settlement agreement was filed at the FMC? Neither did I - let's talk about it. (So was the PMA-ILWU agreement, btw...) Federal Maritime Commission Agreements Library: https://www2.fmc.gov/FMC.Agreements.Web/Public The Maritime Professorᵀᴹ presents By Land and By Sea Podcast - an …

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S4.E3 - Petition Filed against FMC's Final Rule on Unreasonable Refusal to Deal or Negotiate w/r/t/ Vessel Space Accommodations 28:52

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Topic of the Week (10/11/24): A petition has been filed against the FMC's Final Rule on Unreasonable Refusal to Deal or Negotiate - let's talk about it. The Maritime Professorᵀᴹ presents By Land and By Sea Podcast - an attorney breaking down the week in supply chain with Lauren Beagen (Founder of The Maritime Professorᵀᴹ and Squall Strategiesᵀᴹ) Le…

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S4.E2 - Guest Speaker: Dr. Sal Mercogliano, maritime historian and host of What's Going on With Shipping? // ILA and USMX Negotiation // Red Sea // dangers in maritime // global alliances in maritime 51:20

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**prerecorded on 3 Oct** Topic of the Week (10/4/24): We're joined by a special guest: Dr. Salvatore Mercogliano, Ph.D., host of What is Going on With Shipping? and maritime historian. Together we break down everything going on in the world of maritime, including the port strike. We dive into our take on what's really going on in the ILA/USMX discu…

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S4.E1 - ILA and USMX potential port strike + everything else you may not have noticed 45:33

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Topic of the Week (9/27/24): What you missed while you were worried about the port strike... The Maritime Professorᵀᴹ presents By Land and By Sea Podcast - an attorney breaking down the week in supply chain with Lauren Beagen (Founder of The Maritime Professorᵀᴹ and Squall Strategiesᵀᴹ) Let's dive in... 1- FMC Rulemaking Roundup & Defining Unreason…

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S3.E23 - FMC's Final Rule Defining Unreasonable Refusal to Deal or Negotiate w/r/t Vessel Space Accommodations 56:23

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*** Programming Note: No new shows until Sept 27 *** Topic of the Week (8/2/24): The Federal Maritime Commission just dropped another Final Rule - Defining Unreasonable Refusal to Deal or Negotiate... let's break it down https://www.regulations.gov/document/FMC-2023-0010-0060 The Maritime Professorᵀᴹ presents By Land and By Sea Podcast - an attorne…

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S3.E22 - Captain's Log: FMC Updates // Shipper Advisory Committee's Role // Gemini Cooperation Agreement // Rising Shipping Rates Discussion 45:58

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Topic of the Week (7/19/24): Taking inventory of industry news and catching up on a few things - it's the Captain's Log Edition! The Maritime Professorᵀᴹ presents By Land and By Sea Podcast - an attorney breaking down the week in supply chain with Lauren Beagen (Founder of The Maritime Professorᵀᴹ and Squall Strategiesᵀᴹ) Let's dive in... 1 - Feder…

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S3.E21 - A Tale of Two Overturns: TCW v. Evergreen and Chevron v. NRDC - what it all means for the Federal Maritime Commission 49:30

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Topic of the Week (7/12/24): What a few weeks it’s been for the judicial system and ocean shipping – the overturning of Chevron (impacting federal agencies) and the vacating and remanding of TCW v. Evergreen (a discussion of the incentive principle and FMC’s May 18, 2020 Interpretive Rule) – there’s a lot going on, let’s break it down. The Maritime…

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S3.E20 - FMC Round Up! 39:15

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Topic of the Week (6/28/24): It's an FMC round up! Let's review some of the major things I'm watching with respect to the Federal Maritime Commission. The Maritime Professorᵀᴹ presents By Land and By Sea - an attorney breaking down the week in supply chain with Lauren Beagen (Founder of The Maritime Professorᵀᴹ and Squall Strategiesᵀᴹ) But first my…

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S3.E19 - Gemini Cooperation Agreement filed w FMC // USTR Sec 301 Tariffs // MTDI RFI#2 due today 44:12

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Topic of the Week (6/14/24): Let's break down the Gemini Cooperation Agreement that was JUST filed with the FMC... The Maritime Professorᵀᴹ presents By Land and By Sea - an attorney breaking down the week in supply chain with Lauren Beagen (Founder of The Maritime Professorᵀᴹ and Squall Strategiesᵀᴹ) Let's dive in... 1 - Federal Maritime Commission…

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S3.E18 - Guest: FMC Commissioner Carl Bentzel [discussing FMC's D&D Final Rule, revolutionizing maritime data, MTDI and RFI #2, and how he entered the maritime/supply chain world] 53:20

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Topic of the Week (6/7/24): We talk a lot ABOUT the Federal Maritime Commission, so today we are talking TO the Federal Maritime Commission - well, one fifth of it anyway. Today we welcome FMC Commissioner Carl Bentzel to the show! The Maritime Professorᵀᴹ presents By Land and By Sea - an attorney breaking down the week in supply chain with Lauren …

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S3.E17 - FMC's Final Rule on D&D Billing Requirements - Part 4 - Do you know where the invoices are going now? [and discussions on VOCC Audit Program, Foreign Shipping Practices Act, and Civil Penalties ... 35:52

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Topic of the Week (5/31/24): The FMC's Final Rule on Detention and Demurrage Billing Practices became effective this week on Tuesday - and as part of our continuing discussion I have one question for you this week - do you know where your D&D invoice is being sent now? Final Rule - 46 CFR Part 541: https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-46/chapter-IV/s…

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S3.E16 - Captain's Log - FMC activity roundup (incl. Peloton vs. Flexport) // Port of Baltimore/NTSB report // USTR Sec301 tariffs 40:08

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Topic of the Week (5/17/24): Taking inventory of industry news and catching up on a few things - it's the Captain's Log Edition! The Maritime Professorᵀᴹ presents By Land and By Sea - an attorney breaking down the week in supply chain with Lauren Beagen (Founder of The Maritime Professorᵀᴹ and Squall Strategiesᵀᴹ) Let's dive in... 1 - Federal Marit…

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S3.E15 - FMC Final Rule on D&D - Correction Published 37:22

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Topic of the Week (5/10/24): The Federal Maritime Commission released a correction to their Final Rule on Detention and Demurrage Billing Requirements - what does this change do? We'll discuss. FMC Final Rule: https://www.regulations.gov/document/FMC-2022-0066-0286 FMC Final Rule - Correction: https://www.regulations.gov/document/FMC_FRDOC_0001-014…

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S3.E14 - USTR initiates a section 301 investigation into China (maritime, logistics, and shipbuilding sectors) 33:41

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Topic of the Week (5/3/24): USTR officially launched a section 301 investigation into China's Acts, Policies, and Practices Targeting the Maritime, Logistics, and Shipbuilding Sectors for Dominance - what does this mean? We'll discuss... Office of the U.S. Trade Representative Section 301 China Investigation: https://ustr.gov/issue-areas/enforcemen…