Over 50% of SaaS companies say partnerships are a top revenue driver, but the path to success isn’t always clear. On this show, we unpack the real stories behind the programs driving revenue growth, straight from the people who’ve built them. From early missteps to pivotal moments, each guest breaks down how their strategy evolved, what actually worked, and the lessons that stuck. We’re getting tactical, walking through the exact playbooks they’ve used to turn partnerships into a predictable ...
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Hosted by Chris Lavoie, each episode dives deep with the sharpest minds in partnerships—from founders to channel leaders—to uncover what’s actually working. No fluff, no theory. Tactical playbooks, real stories, and battle-tested lessons from the front lines of ecosystem growth.
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The secret sauce to your sales success? It’s what happens before the sale. It’s the planning, the strategy, the leadership. And it’s more than demo automation. It’s the thoughtful work that connects people, processes, and performance. If you want strong revenue, high retention, and shorter sales cycles, the pre-work—centered around the human—still makes the dream work. But you already know that. The Unexpected Lever is your partner in growing revenue by doing what great sales leaders do best ...
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In the tech world, if you don’t scale, your business will die. Join our host, Dave Rogenmoser, co-founder of Proof, as he uncovers proven strategies from the growth experts behind some of the world’s fastest-growing software startups (Drift, Instapage, Zapier, & more).
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AI Exposes the Gap Between Good and Great Reps, with Mike Head, CRO of PartnerStack
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7:52Most reps won’t get better with AI. They’ll just get lazy. That’s what Mike Head, CRO at PartnerStack, tells Jarod Greene in this episode of V5, as he shares his two bold takes on the future of sales teams. Mike argues that AI is creating a wider gap between top sellers and everyone else. With prep work and research now outsourced to tools, many re…
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Inside Tyler Calder’s Data-Driven Marketing Playbook at PartnerStack
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51:45In this insightful episode of the Partnership Mastermind podcast, host Chris Lavoie sits down with Tyler Calder, CMO of PartnerStack, to unpack the secrets behind building a successful partner program and driving growth through strategic marketing. With over 5 years at the helm of PartnerStack's marketing efforts, Tyler shares candid stories of bot…
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Why 'Proven VPs' Fail in Startup Sales — with Lindsay Rios (PowerChord, Inc.)
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7:44Is hiring someone who’s “done it before” actually the safer bet? In this episode of V5, Jarod Greene sits down with Lindsay Rios, Fractional CRO of PowerChord, Inc., to question the logic behind experience-based executive hiring. Lindsay challenges the assumption that startup success requires a leader who’s already taken a company from $10M to $50M…
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How to Crack Modern Affiliate Strategy in B2B SaaS with Tye DeGrange
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42:16Affiliate marketing has often been misunderstood in the B2B space. Outdated perceptions and poor execution have kept it from becoming the performance channel it has the potential to be. In this episode, Tye DeGrange (Founder and CEO of Round Barn Labs) joins Tyler Calder (CMO at PartnerStack) to break down how affiliate and influencer strategy work…
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The Modern ISV Partner Manager Handbook with Dave Rogers
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45:45In this episode of The Partnership Mastermind Podcast, host Chris Lavoie sits down with Dave Rogers, an accomplished B2B SaaS partnership leader, to reveal what it really takes to build and scale high-impact partner ecosystems. From account mapping and co-selling frameworks to scalable playbooks and cross-functional alignment, Dave shares the syste…
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Becoming a Partnerships VP & Earning a Seat at the Table
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51:49Michael Haswell joins the Partnership Mastermind Podcast to share how he’s scaled partner ecosystems from zero to a billion in revenue. From brokering game changing deals at Google to leading global partnerships at Auctane, Michael reveals how to earn executive trust, avoid common partner pitfalls, and drive meaningful results. He also shares why c…
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Why Great Reps Still Win with Outbound in the Age of AI
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8:35Is outbound selling still worth the effort in the AI era? In this episode, we explore how AI tools are changing outbound sales, and what separates average reps from great ones. Jarod Greene sits down with Austin Hitchcock, Senior Director of Account Development at Highspot, to discuss the future of pipeline generation, how AI is being misused by sa…
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Navigating Partnerships in the Age of AI with Katie Landaal
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44:29Many partnership programs fail because they lack alignment with broader company goals. Without clear communication and a unified strategy, it’s easy for the value of partnerships to be overlooked. In this episode, Katie Landaal (SVP of Strategic Alliances at ZoomInfo) joins Tyler Calder (CMO at PartnerStack) to explore how partnerships can be a cat…
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Ecosystem Engineering Inside Google with Andrey Lipattsev
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50:38The Partnership Mastermind podcast delivers a powerhouse episode featuring Andrey Lipattsev, a pioneer in Google's ecosystem engineering efforts. Host Chris Lavoie guides listeners through Andrey's journey from search quality to global partnerships, uncovering the pivotal moments that shaped his approach to alliance building. Andrey shares candid r…
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The Real Job of Sales Isn’t Selling, Says Salesloft’s CRO Mark Niemiec
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6:14Is sales really a job or just the outcome of doing your real work well? On this episode of V5, Jarod Greene chops it up with Mark Niemiec, CRO at Salesloft, to unpack what sales is when you strip away the pipeline noise and pressure to close. Mark believes a sale serves as proof that you helped a customer solve a priority business problem. He share…
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What’s Wrong About So Much Go-to-Market Advice with Todd Busler, Champify
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6:30Are bold LinkedIn takes helping or hurting your sales motion? In this episode of V5, Jarod Greene sits down with Todd Busler, CEO and co-founder of Champify, to question the certainty behind today’s loudest go-to-market opinions. Todd sees a problem with the way leaders chase what’s trending, speaking in absolutes about which industries and approac…
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How to Build a CFO-Proof Partner Model with Brian Jambor
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47:24Too many partner leaders build programs with no way to prove their impact. And when it comes time to justify headcount or budget, the conversation falls apart. In this episode of Get It, Together, Brian Jambor (Head of Partnerships at Synthesia) joins host Tyler Calder (CMO at PartnerStack) to break down the real mechanics behind modeling a partner…
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Ecosystem Economics: Bob Moore on the Future of Partnerships
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59:40In this illuminating episode of the Partnership Mastermind podcast, host Chris Lavoie sits down with Bob Moore, co-founder and CEO of Crossbeam, to explore the evolving landscape of B2B partnerships and ecosystem-led growth. As one of the most influential figures shaping how modern GTM teams approach ecosystems, Moore offers invaluable insights int…
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Rethinking Territory Planning with Andrew Berger, Capchase
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7:23Is your team still stuck in the old way of territory planning? In this episode of V5, Jarod Greene is joined by Andrew Berger, VP of Revenue at Capchase, to challenge a long-standing sales tradition. Andrew argues that quarterly and annual planning sessions waste more time than they’re worth. With countless hours spent on formatting, presenting, an…
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Integration-Led Growth with Rachel Collie
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50:46In this powerful episode of the Partnership Mastermind podcast, host Chris Lavoie sits down with Rachel Collie, Director of Technology Partnerships at Unanet, for a masterclass in product-led partner strategy. Rachel shares her journey from accidental partnership professional to respected industry leader, offering candid insights on evaluating part…
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Why People-Centered Leaders Build Resilient Teams with Kelley Hippler, Briefly
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9:22Why do so many sales leaders fail before they even get started? In this episode, Jarod Greene chats with Kelley Hippler, CRO at Briefly, about why people-centered leadership is the key to building sales teams that last. Kelley explains how CROs fall into the trap of managing up, missing what their team really needs. She talks about the pressure lea…
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How Partner Managers Can Activate the Salesforce Ecosystem with Sam Yarborough
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40:18Most ISVs enter the Salesforce ecosystem expecting revenue to come easily. But only a few understand what it actually takes to succeed. In this episode of Get It, Together, Sam Yarborough (Co-Founder at Arcadia) joins host Tyler Calder (CMO at PartnerStack) to explore the real work behind building a partner motion inside Salesforce. From aligning y…
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The Operator’s Playbook: Scaling Yotpo & Loop Into Global GTM Engines
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47:41This episode of the Partnership Mastermind podcast features an in-depth conversation with John David Klausner (JD), a veteran in the world of partnerships and international GTM strategies. Host Chris Lavoie guides listeners through JD's impressive career trajectory, from his early days at Yotpo to his current role at Loop Returns, where he's spearh…
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The latest episode of the Partnership Mastermind podcast features an eye-opening conversation with Alexis Petrichos, VP of Strategic Partnerships and Ecosystem Marketing at Chili Piper. Host Chris Lavoie explores Alexis's unique career trajectory and the strategies that have made him a standout leader in the partnerships space. From building a part…
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Building Partnership Programs That Scale with Chris Lavoie
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51:48Most partner programs don’t fail because of strategy, but by simply scaling too early. In this episode of Get It, Together, Chris Lavoie (Founder and CEO of Partnership Mastermind) joins host Tyler Calder (CMO at PartnerStack) to talk about what it takes to build a revenue-generating tech partnership motion. From identifying your most valuable inte…
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From $0 to $30M in partner-sourced revenue in 5 years: the Phil Roireau Playbook
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49:29In this captivating episode of the Partnership Mastermind podcast, host Chris Lavoie sits down with Phil Roireau, a trailblazer in SaaS partnerships and current co-founder and CEO of Consio. Phil shares his journey from being one of Gorgias' largest customers to spearheading their partnership program, which became one of the most admired in the Saa…
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Executive Buy-In, Political Capital, and the Real Work Behind Tech Partnerships with Cristina Flaschen
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45:16In this insightful episode of the Partnership Mastermind podcast, host Chris Levoie sits down with Christina Flaschen, CEO and founder of Pandium, to unpack the intricacies of SaaS partnerships and integration strategies. As a veteran in the tech partnership space, Christina shares her wealth of experience in building and scaling integrations for S…
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The (Next) Decade of the Partner Ecosystem with Jay McBain
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48:24Did you know there are 28 crucial moments in a buyer’s journey that can make or break a sale? In this episode of Get It, Together, Jay McBain (Chief Analyst at Canalys) and host Tyler Calder (CMO at PartnerStack) discuss the power of partnerships. Discover why we’re now in the "Decade of the Ecosystem”, where strategic partnerships can influence cu…
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Building Internal Support for Partnership Programs with Christi Williams
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39:05In this episode of Partnership Mastermind podcast, host Chris Lavoie sits down with Christi Williams, Principal Partner Marketing Manager for Partner GTM Enablement at HubSpot. As an experienced operator who has been on both sides of the marketing development funds (MDF) table, Christi shares her journey from IT consulting and digital marketing to …
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Driving 60% of Pipeline with Founder-led GTM
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45:02In this illuminating episode of the Partnership Mastermind podcast, host Chris Lavoie sits down with Kait Stephens, the visionary founder and CEO of Brij. Kait shares her journey from Harvard Business School to building one of the most ecosystem-minded companies in e-commerce. She dives deep into the trillion-dollar "black box" of retail data and h…
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Fixing the Broken B2B Buying Journey with James Kaikis, TestBox
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6:15Is your buying experience built for the customer or just convenient for you? In this episode, Jarod Greene welcomes James Kaikis, CRXO at TestBox, to challenge how SaaS companies treat their customers after the deal closes. James shares his frustration with buying software today, calling out the friction, the lack of follow-through, and the disappe…
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$1M ARR, No Cold Emails: Greg Portnoy’s GTM Playbook
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39:34Chris Lavoie sits down with Greg Portnoy, founder and CEO of Euler, to unpack the secrets of successful SaaS partnerships. Greg, a veteran with over a decade of experience in building partnership programs, shares his journey from selling TVs at Best Buy to revolutionizing the partnership management space. The conversation delves into Greg's motivat…
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Ready to make your SaaS partnerships actually work? Get It, Together is your backstage pass to the real people behind partner programs that drive revenue. Get insights from their rookie mistakes, how they overcame them, and what they learned along the way. No fluff, just practical advice you can use right now. We want to help you launch, scale, and…
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The $1M Mistake: Hiring Partner Ops Too Late
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44:19Chris Lavoie sits down with Kelly Sarabyn, Director of Tech Partner Programs at HubSpot, to unpack the intricacies of successful SaaS partnerships. Kelly, with her unique background spanning Yale Law, marketing, and now leading one of the top tech partner ecosystems, brings a wealth of knowledge to the table. The conversation dives deep into the of…
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From $100M to $1B: How Rob Moyer Scaled Ecosystem Revenue
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35:16In this insightful episode of the Partnership Mastermind podcast, host Chris Lavoie sits down with Rob Moyer, head of Global partnerships at Gong, to unpack what actually works in B2B partnerships. Rob brings a wealth of experience, having scaled ecosystem revenue from $100 million to over $1 billion and built GTM channels at Microsoft. The convers…
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Join Chris Lavoie and partnerships leaders and experts each week in this new podcast. Make sure you subscribe on Apple, follow on Spotify, or whereever you get your podcasts.By Partnership Mastermind
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Replacing Sales Bloatware with AI That Works
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21:36Why does so much sales tech still feel like extra work? And how can AI actually make life easier for AEs and SEs instead of adding to the noise? In this episode, Vivun’s senior selling team, Account Executive Mike Capitolo and Sales Engineer Clay Killgore, join Vivun CEO Matt Darrow to reveal where most sales tools go wrong and what it looks like w…
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Is AI Exposing Marketers Who Can’t Connect? with Lucas Welch
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16:28Can AI make us more human in how we go to market? In this episode, Jarod Greene sits down with Lucas Welch, VP of Corporate Marketing at Highspot, for a conversation about authenticity, AI, and the power of personal connection in modern marketing. Lucas shares how AI isn’t replacing relationships but encouraging deeper ones, especially when go-to-m…
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The Truth About Scaling GTM with AI with Jarod Greene
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25:59How do you scale a team without scaling headcount? And why are some companies still slow to adopt AI despite clear advantages? In this episode, Vivun CEO Matt Darrow sits down with CMO and fellow podcast host Jarod Greene to discuss how marketing and sales teams can operate at a higher level using AI without losing the human element. They share how…
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The Rise of SEs in Sales with Michelle Afshar
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16:30Is the traditional sales model evolving with the rise of SEs? In this episode, Jarod Greene sits down with Michelle Afshar, Global Head of Enablement at Darktrace, to unfold the shifting dynamics within B2B sales teams, focusing on the increasing importance of SEs. Michelle explains why the future of sales belongs to sales engineers, emphasizing th…
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Leveraging AI for Meaningful Market Research with Claudia Natasia, Riley AI
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6:01Are you using AI correctly for market research? In this episode of V5, Jarod Greene sits down with Claudia Natasia, CEO of Riley AI, to discuss the evolving role of AI in customer insights. Claudia breaks down how AI is transforming market research, but she’s quick to caution against a plug-and-play approach. Off-the-shelf tools or LLMs alone won’t…
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The Future of CROs in B2B Sales with Kelly Lewis
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18:18Is the CRO role changing to meet modern sales demands? In this episode, Jarod Greene connects with Kelly Lewis of B2B Go-To-Market Strategy, to discuss the ever-evolving nature of the CRO role and B2B selling teams in general. Kelly explains why today’s CROs need more than just sales skills. They have to master strategy, operations and even AI to l…
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Software Is a Commodity with Margaret Kelsey, Kodaris
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8:44Is brand the last real differentiator? In this episode of V5, Jarod Greene talks with Margaret Kelsey, CMO of Kodaris, about the shifting landscape of B2B marketing. Margaret argues that software has become a commodity—AI has made it easier than ever to build and replicate products. Yet many companies still rely on outdated go-to-market strategies …
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What Sales Leaders Actually Need to Know About AI with Trevor Jett
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22:32What actually is an AI agent vs. a personal productivity tool? And how do you navigate the vast vendor landscape? AI is changing the sales game, but are leaders truly harnessing its potential? In this episode, Vivun CEO Matt Darrow and CRO Trevor Jett break down what sales leaders need to know about AI agents. From cutting through vendor noise to u…
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Why Discovery Wins Deals with Tom Josephson
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18:05Are sales engineers too focused on features instead of what customers really need? In this episode, Jarod Greene connects with Tom Josephson, Senior Director of Solution Consulting at TCP Software, to explore the power of discovery in building solid relationships with buyers. Tom explains why curiosity is a superpower for SEs, how the right questio…
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What Separates Great Sales Engineers from the Rest with Marjorie Abdelkrime
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16:54Are sales engineers relying too much on technical expertise and missing what truly drives customer decisions? In this special V15 episode, Jarod Greene sits down with Marjorie Abdelkrime, Head of US West and Healthcare Solutions at VMware by Broadcom, to explore what separates great SEs from those who get stuck. Marjorie shares why curiosity is the…
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Why Sales Teams Struggle to Connect with Customers with Jeff Margolese
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6:05Are sales teams too focused on flashy demos and missing what really matters to customers? In this episode of V5, Jarod Greene welcomes Jeff Margolese, SVP of Global Solution Consulting at ServiceNow, to break down one of the biggest challenges in B2B SaaS: showing real customer value. Jeff shares why sales teams often get caught up in showcasing fe…
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AI Agents & Security: Safeguarding Your Data in an Evolving Threat Landscape
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15:01Is AI security keeping up? Agentic AI is poised to transform B2B, but will security concerns block its potential? In this episode of The Unexpected Lever, Vivun CEO Matt Darrow sits down with security leaders Jamie Brown and Jessica Siclari to separate fact from fear in AI Agent security. From navigating the evolving threat and regulatory landscape…
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AI-Driven Presales: Faster Onboarding, Smarter Selling with Toby Penn
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6:51Is an AI Sales Engineer the key to faster presales onboarding and smarter sellers? In this episode of V5, Jarod Greene sits down with Toby Penn, an experienced global presales leader, to explore how AI agents are transforming sales engineering. Toby shares how AI, specifically Vivun’s AI Sales Engineer, Ava, is helping presales teams ramp faster, s…
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Marketing Channels are Dead with Mark Kilens, TACK
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5:36Are marketing channels dead? In this episode of The Unexpected Lever, Jarod Greene sits down with Mark Kilens, CEO and Co-Founder of TACK, to challenge a long-held belief in B2B marketing. Mark argues that traditional channels—email, paid ads, and SEO—are losing effectiveness while networks are becoming the real drivers of growth. He breaks down th…
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Why the Traditional SaaS Model Is Broken with Bill Balnave, Mezmo
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8:37Is the traditional SaaS sales model holding us back? In this episode, Jarod Greene welcomes back Bill Balnave, Vice President of Technical Services of Mezmo, to explore how outdated sales processes are creating unnecessary friction for buyers and sellers alike. Bill shares why software should sell itself and how empowering buyers with the right too…
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Designing AI Agents that Work with Humans, with Stephany Cardet
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18:10What if your tools worked like your best teammate? In this episode, Vivun CEO Matt Darrow talks with Vivun’s Lead AI Product Designer, Stephany Cardet, about what goes into designing AI Sales Assistants that don’t just follow your lead—they help you stay ahead. Stephany shares how Vivun’s tool Ava takes the guesswork out of the process—anticipating…
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Boosting Sales Alignment Through SE Quotas with Nicole Kawamoto, ServiceTitan
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5:32Are individual quotas the secret to SE-Sales team synergy?? In this episode, Jarod Greene sits down with Nicole Kawamoto, Director of Solutions Engineering from ServiceTitan, to explore how a shift in quota strategy can transform team dynamics and drive performance. Nicole shares why she moved her Solutions Engineering team to a hybrid quota model,…
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Multi-Product Generalists Are on Their Way Out with Dave Greene, Gainsight
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5:46Are solution consultants the key to bridging the gap between pre-sales and post-sales success? In this episode, Jarod Greene sits down with Dave Greene, Regional Vice President of Solution Consulting at Gainsight, to unpack why the days of multi-product generalists are fading fast. Dave explains why buyers demand deeper expertise from SCs and how s…
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The Future of Human-AI Interactions in SaaS with Russell Witham, Vivun
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5:48Is AI about to blur the lines between human and machine interactions? In this episode, Jarod Greene chats with Russell Witham from Vivun, to unpack how AI is reshaping your interactions with vendors and customers. From near-human digital assistants to AI systems that can tackle the unexpected, Russell shares his take on why the next few years could…
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