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Foreign Policy editor Amelia Lester reassures her Australian friend Mia Freedman that despite a bankrupt, washed up reality star with a criminal record leading the free world things might be... fine.
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Well with Arielle Lorre is the chart-topping podcast where wellness meets real life. Hosted by Arielle Lorre—wellness tastemaker, entrepreneur, and trusted voice in beauty and lifestyle—this show dives into what it really means to feel well, live well, and look well. Arielle brings her signature blend of curiosity, candor, and discernment to unfiltered conversations with the leading minds in health, beauty, fitness, and personal growth. Whether she’s decoding the latest trend or asking the q ...
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What do you get when you put a former class clown and an Audio/Visual creator with a Christian Apologist, Songwriter and an Entrepreneur? You get the host of this podcast. Now, what do you get when that host gets some of his closest friends to do a podcast with him? You get Thank God for the Group Chat. Throw out everything you think you know about podcasts. This is what happens when 5 millennials get together to talk about pop culture, faith, mental health and current events; A little Jesus ...
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300: Lily Allen Pens Scathing Album about David Harbour’s Cheating + The Row Sample Sale Mass Psychosis
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1:21:15Lauren and Chan are back for Episode 300 (!) and the pop culture chaos did not take a week off. From The Row’s unhinged sample sale — where minimalism met full delusion — to Lily Allen’s scathing divorce album, the girls unpack every inch of the internet’s collective spiral. They also dive into Lori Loughlin’s marriage fallout (and the rumors that …
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420: Cold Plunges, How to Beat Cravings & Cosmetic Acupuncture: What Works—and What Doesn’t, with Dr. Felice Chan
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1:02:09This week, I’m joined by Dr. Felice Chan, a Chinese medicine doctor who bridges Eastern and Western approaches to healing after years studying allopathic medicine including shadowing an oncology neurosurgeon and working at Boston Children’s Hospital. We dive into the fascinating contrasts between healthcare in Hong Kong and the U.S., the 5,000-year…
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419: From Romania to Hollywood: Anastasia Soare on Beauty, Perseverance & A Billion Dollar Brand Based on a Single Idea
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45:03Anastasia is an entrepreneur (founder of Anastasia Beverly Hills) and author of Raising Brows: My Story of Building a Billion Dollar Beauty Empire. From watching Oprah in Romania without speaking a word of English to eventually calling her a friend—and doing her brows—Anastasia Soare’s story is the definition of the American dream. In this episode,…
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299: J Lo’s Ex Loses It on IG, Gwyneth Fires Back at “Hack” Amy Odell + Prince Andrew’s Total & Complete Downfall
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1:08:24Lauren and Chan are back this week breaking down the royal exile heard ’round the world — Prince William reportedly won’t invite Prince Andrew to his coronation. Then, Gwyneth Paltrow calls her biographer a “hack” (and compares herself to Steve Jobs). Jennifer Lopez’s ex-husband also reappears with a full Notes App essay, Kristen Bell accidentally …
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418: The Victoria’s Secret Model Workout and The Dose Mentality: The Smarter Way to Get Strong and Lean with Joe Holder
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1:08:22This week I’m joined by Joe Holder: performance specialist, Nike Master Trainer, and wellness educator who’s worked with everyone from Victoria’s Secret models to elite athletes, for a conversation that will completely reframe how you think about health and fitness. We get into why workouts don’t always need to be so hard (and how training too inte…
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417: The Birkin of Bodies: Mommy Makeovers, Menopause, GLP-1’s & the Art of Enhancement with Dr. Ryan Neinstein
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49:21Dr. Ryan Neinstein is one of the most sought-after plastic surgeons in the world, known for his meticulous artistry, innovative techniques, and unwavering commitment to excellence. In this high-energy conversation, we dive into everything from how he screens patients for surgical readiness to the psychology of enhancement versus transformation. Dr.…
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416: The Tools for Longevity: Brain, Beauty and Health Protocols You Haven’t Heard Yet with Dr. Kay Linker, PhD
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55:51Neuroscientist and longevity expert Dr. Kay Linker joins me to break down the science of staying young—inside and out. We dive deep into how the brain ages (and how to slow it down), the neuroscience behind exercise, and why Zone 2 training is a game-changer for cognitive health. Dr. Linker explains how your brain detoxes itself, how to avoid gluco…
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298: Our Injector Answers ALL Your Questions 💉💋 Beauty & Aesthetics DEEP DIVE ft. Allison Lester PA
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2:01:44We sit down with NYC dermatology PA and friend of the pod, Alison Lester, for a deep, practical walk-through of modern aesthetics. We cover when to start Botox (and how often), why provider credentials and restraint matter, what’s actually behind the “no-tox” scare posts, and the truth about filler—migration, overfilling, dissolving, and why “villa…
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415: Hair Myths, Hacks, Products to Use & the Truth Behind the Glam with Jen Atkin
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56:14Jen Atkin is a celebrity hairstylist, founder of the brands OUAI and Mane, co-founder of Highlight Artists, author and BELLAMI Global Brand Ambassador. She joins me for a candid conversation on all things hair, hustling to build a successful career and hard-earned wisdom. Jen opens up about how loss has shaped her life and business, why work ethic …
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414: Solo Q&A: Can You Be Friends with an Ex? Advice to my 20-something Self & the 5 Beauty Things I Can’t Live Without
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297: TAYLOR SWIFT THE LIFE OF A SHOWGIRL ALBUM REVIEW! ❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
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1:39:25It’s The Life of a Showgirl week, and Lauren & Chanler are in full Swiftie-monastery mode 🎧🥂. From champagne chaos to lyrical deep dives, the sisters break down Taylor’s new album track by track — from the haunting beauty of “The Fate of Ophelia” and the cinematic glow of “Elizabeth Taylor,” to the swagger of “Father Figure” and the ache of “Eldest…
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413: Unfiltered Beauty Talk with Byrdie’s Hallie Gould: Skincare, Surgery & Industry Secrets
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1:03:54Hallie Gould is GM and editor-in-chief of the online beauty publication Byrdie. She joins the show for a fun and candid deep dive into the beauty and wellness world from both sides of the industry. We get into skincare routines and Hallie’s specific go-to products, how aging, hormones, and breakouts change the way we approach maintenance, and the i…
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296: Selena Gomez Marries Benny Blanco 💍 + Nicole Kidman & Keith Urban SHOCKING Split 💔
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1:04:17We kick off with an intro-music meltdown (ft. cursed AI jingle) before diving into Taylor Swift album week—no leaks, only joy. Then Selena Gomez & Benny Blanco’s whimsical wedding, the viral Taylor “toast” rumor, and Super Bowl halftime buzz. Sister Wives returns with Cody & Robyn’s monogamy vows and chaos, followed by the shock split of Nicole Kid…
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412: Cheating, Compromise & the Myth of 50/50 Love with Nina Westbrook, LMFT
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52:37Nina Westbrook is a licensed marriage and family therapist, host of Do Tell podcast, and founder of health and wellness platforms Bene and Nebbi. She joins the show for a candid conversation about the realities of relationships including being an introvert married to a public figure and how she’s learned to say no in order to protect her peace. We …
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411: The Science of Metabolism: How to Burn More Fat & Break Plateaus with Dr. Latt Mansor
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1:01:14Dr. Latt Mansor is a researcher and global expert in metabolic health, with a PhD from Oxford in physiology, specializing in nutrition, ketones, and human performance. He joins the show to break down what really drives metabolism, energy, and weight loss. We dive into common myths, the truth about fast vs. slow metabolism, and what to do when you h…
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410: Fat Transfers, Facelifts and My Personal Maintenance with Dr. Miguel Mascaró
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1:07:28Dr. Miguel Mascaró is a double board-certified facial plastic and reconstructive surgeon known for his refined, natural results and advanced approach to aesthetics. He joins the show for a deep dive into the cutting edge of aesthetics—and many (funny) personal anecdotes between the two of us as well. From Sculptra and fat transfers to biostimulator…
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294: Nepo Babies Deep Dive! ZOË KRAVITZ & GRACIE ABRAMS
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1:15:01We go long on two very different “nepo baby” journeys: Zoë Kravitz—from Topanga Canyon rules to rock-star Miami, acting breakthroughs (Big Little Lies, The Batman), directing Blink Twice, YSL muse status, and that headline-friendly dating history—then pivot to Gracie Abrams—JJ’s daughter with a whisper-cutting pen, from SoundCloud to opening ERAS, …
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409: Behind the Beauty Closet: What Beauty Editors REALLY Swear By When It Comes to Skincare, Makeup, Haircare and Body Care
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1:08:46The beauty editors behind People’s coveted 100 Best in Beauty Awards are on the podcast! Brittany Talarico and Jackie Fields take us inside the process of testing thousands of products to find the ones that truly deserve a spot on the list. From the one product they’d rescue from the burning beauty closet to the best serum for acne, drugstore vitam…
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293: Gigi & Kendall's Vogue Cowgirl Cover + Facelifts at 35?! Inside the Ageless Arms Race
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1:03:02🎙️ Episode Summary Sisters catch-up (👗 wardrobe wars + ✈️ travel dread), Meta’s new auto-dubbing weirdness 🤯, Meghan’s jam saga 🍓, Ireland Baldwin’s love letter to Hilaria ❤️, Pamela + Liam—PR or passion? 👀, Kyle & Mauricio’s family vibes at Alexia’s wedding 💍, Kendall & Gigi’s Vogue cowgirl cover 🐎👒, Kate’s rapid un-blonding 💇♀️, Taylor’s underst…
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408: Hormones Decoded: Estrogen, Progesterone, Testosterone & Beyond with Dr. Erika Schwartz
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55:00Dr. Erika Schwartz is a pioneer in the use of bio-identical hormones for preventing illness and their direct link to overall wellness, as well as their interconnection with diet, sleep, and stress management. She joins the show to discuss the world of hormones: what’s lifestyle-driven, what’s hormone-based, and how to know the difference. She break…
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292: Pamela & Liam's "PR Romance," Kris & Corey Donezo? + Taylor Skipped Selena's Bach?
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1:41:52Therapy can wait—pop culture can’t. Lauren and Chanler unpack With Love, Megan (why José Andrés is the missing co-host), the Pamela Anderson × Liam Neeson “PR bake-off,” why couple-prank TikToks feel like Dante’s 9th circle, a viral aesthetician chemical-peel horror story, Brittany Mahomes’ 30th with Taylor in Nashville vs. Selena’s Cabo bacheloret…
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407: Pilates vs. Strength Training & How to Move Through the Puffy Phase of Training with Dr. Shannon Ritchey
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58:53Dr. Shannon Ritchey is a trainer, founder of EVLO Fitness and host of the Dr. Shannon Show. She joins me for a myth-busting deep dive into women’s fitness, physiology, and how to get the results we are striving for. We unpack what most people get wrong about training men vs. women, the truth about cycle syncing, and why building a sustainable routi…
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291: Zoe Kravitz’s Hot Boy Summer + Is Gwyneth Writing a Memoir?!?!
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52:48Gwyneth wipes her IG avatar and drops a cinematic “new chapter” reel—memoir incoming? We connect the dots, then dive into that Ben Affleck discourse (technically excellent… and reportedly livid). Next up: Burning Man déjà-dust, Zoë Kravitz’s very public summer (Harry Styles, Austin Butler), and the legendary “snake in Taylor’s bathroom” story. Sere…
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406: The Psychology of Fame, Codependency and Reclaiming Your Life with Terri Cole
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55:41Terri Cole is a therapist, author and former high-powered talent agent. From navigating the high-glam world of modeling agencies to helping A-listers through rehab, Terri's journey from powerhouse talent agent to renowned psychotherapist is anything but ordinary. In this episode, we get into the hidden cost of success, high-functioning codependency…
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290: Did Taylor Steal Meghan's Thunder? + the Young Exec Who Stole 1M to Fund Her Luxury Lifestyle
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57:30From a brazen Food52 embezzlement to Meghan’s Netflix “first-look” spin, plus Margaret Qualley’s cringe moment, K-Fed’s tell-all, Leo’s eternal 32—and the nothing-burger “dark truth” about Pooky & Jet. 00:00 🎧 — Cold open: today’s menu 01:00 🎂 — Chan turns 30 (homebody chic) 05:20 🍞 — Food52 scandal: Studio 52, luxe receipts, and “how did no one no…
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405: Beauty Secrets, Botox Disasters & Life Beyond Reality TV with Dr. Nicole Martin
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59:28Dr. Nicole Martin is an anesthesiologist, skincare co-founder and former Real Housewife of Miami. She joins me for a candid conversation that blends beauty, wellness, and the realities of life on and off camera. We talk skincare routines, the good and bad of Botox (including preventative treatments and disasters) and emerging trends like exosomes a…
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289: NEW TAYLOR SWIFT ALBUM 🚨 THE LIFE OF A SHOWGIRL ❤️🔥
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1:13:52Taylor Swift just hijacked the entire Pop Apologists docket — and Chanler & Lauren are living for it! From cryptic orange sparkles to a khaki skirt, a mint briefcase, and one very un-Swift-like F-bomb, the girls deep-dive every Easter egg, theory, and reveal surrounding TS12. Plus, a swoon-worthy GQ profile of Travis Kelce, the TikTok saga that bro…
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288: Uncovering the Real Gwyneth Paltrow Ft. Amy Odell
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1:03:21Gwyneth Paltrow might be one of the most beautiful, hated, privileged, and mystifying celebrities alive—and this week, Chanler sits down with journalist and author Amy Odell to unpack it all. From Oscar meltdowns to Goop jade eggs and $200K necklaces, the girls dig into what makes Gwyneth so adored… and so triggering. (00:00:00) 📚 Introduction to …
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404: Diet Lies, Weight Loss Truths & Why We’re All Craving the Wrong Foods with Harley Pasternak, MSc
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1:09:36Celebrity trainer and nutrition expert Harley Pasternak joins me to break down the biggest diet lies we’ve been told, why other countries don’t struggle with obesity like we do, and the truth about what really makes people lose weight. We talk portion control, the “good, better, best” method for carbs, why cravings happen, and how to get past plate…
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403: Turning 40: Beauty Hacks, Skincare Hot Takes & the Easiest Way to Upgrade Your Life
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52:04Turning 40 hits different—and in this solo episode, I’m sharing everything from the beauty products I actually finish to the wellness rituals that don’t make it on vacation. I’m talking flight skincare, high-maintenance hacks that make life low-effort, guilty pleasures, travel highlights, and the one habit that’s quietly leveling up my life. I also…
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Lauren’s back from Italy and just in time — because Travis dropped a 13-photo grid hard launching Taylor that basically broke the internet. Chanler catches her up on every sparkly-filtered slide. The girls question if this could mean wedding bells? And the real reason so many brands chimed in on the comment section. (00:00:00) ✈️ Postcards from Ita…
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286: Planning Your Perfect Wedding ft. Love, Laura 👰♀️ 💒
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49:19In this bonus episode, Chanler is joined by her husband Ben and their wedding planner, Laura from Love, Laura. We discuss what it actually takes to plan a wedding that feels intentional, elevated, and true to you. From walking away from their original venue to rethinking the wedding party altogether, this conversation goes deep on the emotional, lo…
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285: How to Curate Your Dream Jewelry Collection ft. Jade Trau
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42:15This week, Lauren and Chanler sit down with the legendary jewelry designer, Jade Trau, for a glimmering deep dive into the art of jewelry that empowers, carries memories, and actually fits your lifestyle. From self-gifting diamond bracelets to refreshing engagement rings, this episode is a masterclass in fine jewelry. ✨ Check out Jade Trau jadetrau…
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402: The Protein Hack for Better Skin, Muscle, and Fat Loss with Angelo Keely
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1:07:08Angelo Keely is the co-founder of Kion and an expert in amino acids and muscle health. He joins the show to break down everything you need to know about optimizing protein for better skin, muscle tone, and body composition. We discuss the difference between essential and non-essential amino acids, how creatine actually works (and whether it causes …
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284: THE HUNT FOR OSAMA BIN LADEN | DEEP DIVE 🕵🏼🕵🏼♀️
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55:05From crayon-sketched love letters to a full-blown national manhunt, Lauren and Chanler unravel the sharpest left turn in Pop Apologists history. What starts as a casual Bin Laden doc spiral turns into a CIA-level obsession, a George Bush fangirl confession, and an unhinged (but stunning) PR breakdown of America’s longest-running villain arc. Better…
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401: Eat to Glow: The Surprising Link Between Diet, Wrinkles, and Grey Hair with Maria Marlowe
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1:00:59Maria Marlowe is a holistic nutritionist known for her integrative approach to heal acne, gut issues and inflammation. She joins the show to discuss skincare lies we have been led to believe, how to actually achieve glass skin, reduce wrinkles through diet, how to reverse grey hair and how to glow from within. We also talk best and worst skincare t…
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400: The New Era of Aging: Stem Cells, Peptides, Plasma, Fat Transfer & Beyond with Drs. Payman Danielpour and John Layke
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1:08:42Dr. Payman Danielpour and Dr. John Layke are board-certified plastic surgeons at Beverly Hills Plastic Surgery Group, hosts of the Forever Young podcast and physicians at Proactive Longevity in Cabo San Lucas, Mexico. They join the show to discuss the future of aging and beauty from the inside out, and the innovations that we currently have availab…
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It’s a LadyGang x Pop Apologists crossover! No dating dilemma is safe. Lauren and Chanler join forces with Becca, Keltie, and Jac to break down the ultimate red flags in a man. Everything from mattress-on-the-floor energy to exes who still use Snapchat. They swap stories about musicians with “permanent rizz,” weigh in on cat dads, cargo pants, and …
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399: Easy Wellness Hacks to Curb Sugar Cravings, Stop Bloating and Glow from Within with Dr. Natazia zu Stolberg, L.Ac, DACM
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53:35Dr. Natazia zu Stolberg is a Doctor of Acupuncture and Chinese Medicine, known for her expertise combining new and innovative wellness techniques with traditional eastern practices to treat prominent health issues women face today. She is also the founder of Doctor Stolberg, known for its iconic Rest + Digest tea. She joins the show to discuss easy…
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398: How To Effortlessly Attract More Wealth, Up-Level Your Confidence, and Manifest With Ease (Ft. Mimi Bouchard)
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1:05:06Mimi Bouchard is an entrepreneurial trailblazer, founder of Activations, and is known for helping women upgrade their lives. In this tangible episode, Mimi shares how to fully step into the person you're meant to be. We talk about overcoming limiting scarcity beliefs, changing your self-image and perception, creating abundance (including $$$), boun…
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282: MomTok Secrets with Jessi Ngatikaura from Secret Lives of Mormon Wives
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53:41This week, the ultimate chaos agent Jessi Ngatikaura joins Lauren and Chanler to talk about fame, friendship feuds, and what really goes down behind the scenes of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. From business blow-ups to relationship red flags, Jessi doesn’t hold back—and neither do your hosts. 💅 Check out Jessi on Instagram @jessijayngatikaura Check…
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281: Anonymous Hamptons Confessions, Meghan Quits Podcasting + the Bezos Wedding Begins
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54:02Lauren and Chanler spiral through the chaos of quitting corporate life, the psychosis of mushroom pilots, and why Planet Bibi wants you to orgasm for an hour. They unpack Meghan and Harry’s long game (including a 2027 olive branch??), compare two wildly tone-deaf weddings, and read anonymous Hampton confessions that will make you think twice before…
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397: Travel Diaries, The Confidence and Body Image Tips You’ve Never Heard, Beauty Treatments I’m Planning
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1:00:37In this solo episode I give you a peek behind the scenes of my current travels, sharing what you don’t see on social media. I also share my thoughts on wellness during travel, body image and confidence tips you’ve never heard, my insecurities, how to navigate fear and live life to your fullest, and beauty treatments I’m planning on doing. This epis…
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396: Girl Talk with Amanda Hirsch: Body Positivity & Ozempic, Plastic Surgery & Celebrity Disclosures and Unsolicited PR Advice For Stars in Crisis
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1:05:40Amanda Hirsch is a pop culture commentator, content creator and host of the hit podcast, Not Skinny But Not Fat. She joins the show today for a relatable and laugh filled episode discussing topics such as a the body positivity to Ozempic pipeline, why it should be ok to want to lose weight, whether celebs are obligated to disclose beauty treatments…
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280: How Miley Cyrus Wrote Off Illicit Items ft. Nora Princiotti
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48:52This one’s for the girls who grew up on TRL, cried to Fearless, and low-key still know all the words to “He Could Be the One.” Nora Princiotti joins Lauren and Chanler to talk about the evolution of authenticity in pop, Miley’s totally unfiltered bombshells, and whether Taylor Swift might be pulling off the greatest long game in music history. Chec…
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If you like chaos, congratulations, this episode is tailor-made for you. We’ve got major courtroom drama in the Blake Lively vs Justin Baldoni case, Taylor Swift blending into Travis Kelce’s family wedding, Meghan Markle twerking (?), and a manifestation debate no one asked for. Plus, the woo-woo polyamory breakdown that needs to be studied. (00:00…
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395: No, You Really Don’t Need a Budget! And How to Make Your Money Work For You with Jesse Mecham
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44:43Jesse Mecham is a personal finance expert, speaker, business leader, and the Founder of You Need A Budget (YNAB for short). A self-proclaimed “recovering CPA,” he is deeply passionate about teaching individuals, families, and business owners his method to taking control of their money and making it work for them. Jesse hosts The Jesse Mecham Show, …
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394: Aesthetic Hot Takes: Fillers vs. Sculptra, To Thread or Not to Thread and A Physician’s Opinion on Face Tape with Dr. Alexander Rivkin
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51:35Alexander Z. Rivkin, MD is a facial aesthetic specialist and Assistant Clinical Professor at the David Geffen / UCLA School of Medicine. He received his undergraduate degree from Columbia University and his medical degree from the Yale University School of Medicine. His practice, RIVKIN Aesthetics, is focused on developing and perfecting non-invasi…
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278: Blake Lively Backpedals & Kylie Spills her CC's 🍒
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52:59Chanler’s back from the flight from hell—complete with zero legroom, tarmac heat, and a bralette breakdown. Lauren lands from St. Barth and immediately roasts the snack box struggle. The sisters debrief their Juicy Scoop appearance, dish on Brooklyn upgrades, and dive into the latest Karen Read courtroom twists. Then it’s The Valley's most overblow…
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393: Jason Biggs: On Fame, Addiction, and the Power of Starting Over
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1:11:03Jason Biggs is an actor known for his roles in the American Pie film series, Orange is the New Black, and The Subject. In this candid conversation, he opens up about his rise to fame at a young age, becoming a household name at 21, the pressure that came with early success, the spiral into addiction that followed, and what it took to reclaim his li…
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