Best Schwarting Podcasts (2025)

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Chris DeSantis | Why I Find You Irritating: Navigating Generational Friction at Work 43:51

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Talk to any senior partner in a law firm, and you’re likely to get a complaint or snide comment about the younger generation of lawyers being lazier, more entitled, and less interested in making partner or assuming leadership roles than their predecessors. On the flip side, some younger lawyers will be all too happy to tell you that senior lawyers …

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Sophie Lechner | Leverage the Power of LinkedIn with The Magnet Model 33:34

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Sophie Lechner is a former practicing lawyer turned business coach, speaker, and author with two decades of LinkedIn expertise. She helps mission-driven professionals turn marketing from a chore into a joy, enabling them to attract clients like a magnet rather than chase them down. Sophie is the creator of The MAGNET Model, a framework that simplif…

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Jennifer Gardner | Using the Art and Science of Influence to Be a More Persuasive Lawyer 35:57

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Jennifer Gardner is a Los Angeles-based trial lawyer and persuasive communications consultant. Her three-decade career spans entertainment litigation, serious criminal cases, and business and real estate disputes. Jennifer teaches high-performing professionals how to grow their influence, impact, and executive presence through her programs The Art …

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Coaching for Lawyers: What It Is, What It Isn’t, and Why It Works 26:51

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Coaching is often misunderstood in the legal profession. It’s not about giving advice, cheerleading, or fixing a problem. It’s about creating space for clarity, growth, and meaningful change. In this solo episode, Elise Holtzman shares what lawyers need to know about professional coaching, including how it works, when it’s most effective, and how l…

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Pat Gillette | Just Ask! How Women Can Succeed as Rainmakers AND Law Firm Leaders 31:15

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Pat Gillette is one of the country’s leading voices on gender equity in the legal profession. A seasoned employment litigator, rainmaker, and law firm leader, Pat spent 40 years in practice before shifting her focus to empowering women lawyers through speaking, writing, and consulting. She is a sought-after advisor on advancing women and diverse at…

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Denise Baker | Leading a Law Firm: Hot Topics, Tough Calls, and Leadership Lessons 33:31

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Denise Baker is a Co-Managing Partner of one of Canada’s oldest and most prestigious firms, WeirFoulds. In addition to that role, she advises on complex municipal and land use planning law issues that appear before multiple courts and tribunals. She also participates in mediations and negotiations to effectively resolve disputes before they get to …

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Christa Brown-Sanford | Why Staying True to Your Mission Is Crucial to Achieving Rainmaker Success 34:40

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Christa Brown-Sanford is a partner at Baker Botts in Dallas and chair of its Intellectual Property department. She also serves on the firm’s Executive and Diversity and Inclusion committees and is an adjunct professor at SMU’s Dedman School of Law, where she speaks regularly on patent matters. At every stage, she provides guidance on patent procure…

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Katie Schwarting | The Surprising Habits of a Successful Rainmaker 41:52

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Katie Schwarting is a real estate lawyer and partner at Seyfarth Shaw LLP in Charlotte, North Carolina. Her practice focuses on commercial mortgage-backed securities such as conduit and single asset, single borrower and Freddie Mac securitizations, and collateralized loan obligations. She works with servicers and special servicers on legal issues r…

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You Made Partner—Now What? How to Succeed in Your New Role 27:46

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Making partner at your firm is a significant milestone, but successfully transitioning from associate or counsel to partner isn’t automatic. It requires a mindset shift, strategic planning, and the development of new skills to ensure long-term success. In this episode of The Lawyer’s Edge podcast, Elise Holtzman shares six actionable tips to help y…

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Molly Kremer | Stop Losing Billable Time! A Guide to Higher Hours and Lower Stress 28:30

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Molly Kremer is a certified life coach and former Biglaw litigator. As a high-achieving lawyer for 16 years, she made mistakes in how she approached billing her time which resulted in unintended and unsatisfactory outcomes. When she pursued her life coaching certification in 2021, she started understanding the real reasons behind her unhelpful bill…

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Priyanka Timblo | From Outsider to First Chair: The Evolution of a Top-Tier Trial Lawyer 31:40

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Priyanka Timblo is a partner at Holwell Shuster & Goldberg, a New York-based litigation boutique. Her practice focuses on trials and high-stakes commercial litigation and arbitration, primarily antitrust and breach of contract. She represents several large companies in antitrust trials and arbitration, such as the payment card network Visa and the …

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Amanda Sexton | Creating Content That Converts 40:59

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Amanda Sexton is the founder and CEO of FocusWorks Marketing. Her agency uses the power of digital marketing to grow law firms through content that converts. For 15 years, she has shaped brand development, created award-winning content, and helped service providers like law firms create successful marketing campaigns. Amanda is also president of Ne…

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Hieu Williams | Accelerate Your Career Growth with the Power of Questions 31:49

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Hieu Williams is a partner with Hirschfeld Kraemer, an employment law boutique she also helps manage in San Francisco. She regularly defends employers against claims of discrimination, harassment, wrongful termination, retaliation, breach of contract, and wage and hour class action violations. Her employment law experience includes representing org…

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Elise Holtzman | How to Get the Most ROI From Your Next Conference 32:04

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Many lawyers dismiss conferences as a drain on time and money. And frankly, they’re right—unless you know how to make the most of them. With the right approach, conferences can transform from missed opportunities into a cornerstone of your business development strategy. In this episode of The Lawyer’s Edge podcast, Elise Holtzman shares actionable …

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Ben Chiriboga | How the Evolution of Technology Is Changing Legal 35:43

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Ben Chiriboga left the law firm lawyer track at the young age of 30, choosing instead to set out on a journey to find his unique place in law. Eventually, he found it in legal tech, which led him to become a legal tech executive with Nexl. Nexl is a legal tech company that helps law firms grow by uniting marketers, business development, and lawyers…

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Lucille Karp | Risk, Balance, and Leadership: Insights from a Law Firm General Counsel 32:05

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Lucille Karp is a partner at McElroy, Deutsch, Mulvaney & Carpenter, a New Jersey-based firm with 140 practicing lawyers across 13 offices in nine states. She serves as the firm’s General Counsel, co-chair of the transactional group, and co-chair of the hiring committee. Lucy earned her undergraduate degree from Rutgers University’s College of Engi…

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Joshua Wurtzel | How to Get Started as a Rainmaker - And Succeed! 40:58

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Joshua Wurtzel is a commercial and real estate litigation partner at Schlam Stone & Dolan LLP, a Manhattan boutique law firm that represents businesses, non-profits, and individuals in complex and corporate matters. He has successfully represented public and private companies and prominent individuals in both federal and state court. With his focus…

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Terri Adler | How to Build a Thriving Boutique in a BigLaw World 39:55

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Terri Adler is a visionary leader and creative attorney who focuses on the commercial real estate industry. As the Managing Partner of Adler & Stachenfeld, a boutique real estate law firm in New York City with nearly 50 attorneys, Terri has guided the firm’s growth to become one of the city’s leading real estate law practices. With a wealth of expe…

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Elise Holtzman | 3 Essential Pillars of Business Development for Lawyers 30:45

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Business development can often feel daunting. Even lawyers who recognize its importance frequently grapple with where to begin and how to execute effectively. Without a well-defined strategy, it’s easy to become overwhelmed, discouraged, and ultimately disengage from the process. In this episode of The Lawyer’s Edge podcast, Elise Holtzman breaks d…

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Morris Tabush & Darragh Fitzpatrick | Finding Clarity Amidst Law Firm Technology Overload 40:38

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Morris Tabush is a community activist, tech hobbyist, and serial entrepreneur. Growing up passionate about technology and helping others, he turned that passion into a business in 2000 by founding the Tabush Group with a mission to simplify IT for businesses. He oversees all aspects of the firm’s business and focuses on delivering outstanding servi…

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Amanda Koplos | How Legal Administrators Help Unlock Your Law Firm’s Potential 37:13

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Amanda Koplos is the Chief Operating Officer (COO) of the Central Florida-based law firm Shuffield, Lowman & Wilson. She has 20 years of experience in various law firm leadership positions and currently serves as the president of the Association of Legal Administrators (ALA). ALA is a premier professional association with 9,500 members that exists …

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Laura Leopard | How to Leverage Data to Help Your Law Firm Grow 39:14

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Laura Leopard is the co-founder and General Manager of Leopard Solutions, the largest law firm data platform serving the legal industry with actionable intelligence and insights on more than 5,500 law firms worldwide and 6,800 U.S. corporate legal departments. She has spearheaded Leopard Solutions’ growth and development over the company's 18-year …

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Michael Ellenhorn & Julie Henson | Grow Your Law Firm Through Strategic Lateral Hiring 43:14

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Michael Ellenhorn founded Decipher Investigative Intelligence to help clients create safer, more productive, and more profitable workplaces through reliable investigative intelligence. He counsels clients on mitigating risks associated with the hiring process and is a frequent speaker on the topic of lateral hiring, integration, and talent acquisit…

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Debbie Foster | The Importance of Leadership AND Management in Law Firms 39:11

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Debbie Foster, CEO of Affinity Consulting, can build relationships with even the most challenging personalities. She is a nationally recognized thought leader on people, strategy, efficiency, and innovation in professional legal organizations. Her first project involving increased efficiency and change management came when she computerized the orde…

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Alé Dalton | Smoothing the Path From First-Generation Professional to BigLaw Partner 41:39

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Alé Dalton is a partner at the national law firm Bradley Arant Boult Cummings. Working with their Healthcare Practice Group, which is consistently ranked as one of the best in the country, she provides practical advice to clients on a wide range of transactional, operational, and regulatory matters. She also participates in Bradley’s pro bono progr…

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Ep. 88 - Rustin Spangler: Taking a Gap Year 46:04

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Rustin joins us freshly returning from taking a gap year to spend time on the mission field in Costa Rica. He shares his journey of salvation and learning how to surrender his desires for a spouse to the Lord, trusting Him with whatever the outcome may be. He found true joy in his Singleness and decided to use this time by taking a gap year to grow…

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Ep. 87 - Mark Warnock: Living out the Calling of Singleness 52:26

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Singleness is often looked at as a temporary thing. And if it's looked at as a calling, it's looked at as a temporary calling. But what does it look like when it is a lifetime calling? Mark Warnock, pastor at Family Church in West Palm Beach, Florida joins us to share about how God had called him into a lifetime of singleness, how it has been an in…

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Ep. 86 - Holly Schwarting: Being Ghosted / Living in the Present 50:23

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It always sucks to be ghosted with no explanation or a chance to get any closure. Holly Schwarting shares her experience of being ghosted and the healthy approach she took to maintain a healthy perspective in the midst of it. The conversation shifted into talking about why it is so important to live in the present, maximizing what God has in front …

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Jennifer Cona | How to Grow from Solo Practice to Award-Winning Boutique 31:46

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Jennifer Cona, is the Founder and Managing Partner of Cona Elder Law, an award-winning elder law and estate planning firm located in Melville, New York. Celebrating 25 years in business, Cona Elder Law has been consistently ranked the number one elder law and trust in-estate firm on Long Island. Jennifer has won many awards, including the New York …

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Ep. 85 - Chris Kish: Building a Gospel Community 47:18

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Chris Kish is a legend of his own, diving wish sharks, surfing, snowboarding, living an incredible life in Palm Beach, Florida, however he has mostly been living out his purpose by leading Gospel Communities at Family Church. Chris recently published the book "Becoming the Household", which is about building these communities.…

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Lauren Baptiste | Effective Strategies for Combating Burnout in the Legal Profession 33:07

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Lawyers frequently report that they are exhausted, overloaded, or burned out. Sound familiar? In this episode of The Lawyer’s Edge podcast, host Elise Holtzman chats with Lauren Baptiste, a burnout expert and founder of Acheloa Wellness, to delve into the all-too-common issue of burnout in the legal profession. Lauren shares how to prevent burnout …

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How to Cultivate a Business Development Mindset 17:13

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What do you think is one of the most powerful obstacles to business development success for lawyers? Despite their busy schedules, it isn’t a lack of time. It’s not about the lack of money, either. It’s not even that you don’t know how to do it, although law school certainly didn’t teach it. Simply put: it’s your mindset. It’s the stories you tell …

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Ep. 84 - Jessica Faith: Living a Fulfilled Life with Unfulfilled Dreams 42:06

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Jessica Faith joins us to share her journey of learning to trust in the Lord through her singleness, as well as to give insight on what it looks like to desire marriage in a healthy way, while trusting the Lord in the midst of singleness.By Thomas DeLong/Joshua Erickson/Jessica Faith

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Davina Frederick | How to Scale Your Law Firm to 7 Figures or More 45:24

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Professional opportunities abound for women lawyers, yet many women hesitate to pursue their dream of starting and owning a law practice. Many of those who do take the leap still struggle with building their business into a saleable asset that supports their lifestyle (both now and in retirement). Before my guest, Davina Frederick, started her law …

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Ep. 83 - Caleb Kaminski: Waiting on the Lord 37:19

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Caleb Kaminski joins us for an episode to talk about "the waiting season" and the healthy way to view this as a waiting season as well as a negative way to be viewing this time as a waiting season.By Thomas DeLong/Caleb Kaminski

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Valerie Madamba | How to Stand Out as a Thought Leader By Becoming a Better Presenter 38:18

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Do you struggle to connect with audiences in your public speaking engagements and legal presentations? You can continue to struggle or learn how to be a more engaging and memorable presenter. Valerie Madamba knew she had to overcome a huge learning curve as a public speaker if she wanted to be happy and successful as a lawyer. Once she figured out …

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Tara Stingley | How to Become a Visible Expert in Your Practice Area 32:48

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Those first travelers making their way West did so without a roadmap. But in taking the opportunity, they paved the way for the nation’s expansion. That spirit of the West is very much rooted in Tara Stingley and the Nebraska law firm of which she is a partner. As the first woman to serve on Cline Williams’ executive committee, she challenged other…

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Charlène Gisèle | Banish Burnout to Optimize Performance and Happiness 38:36

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Are you up late at night, pulling all-nighters, and burning out from the fast-paced nature of your job as a lawyer? As a former litigator, Charlène Gisèle loved all of it! She reveled in the things you’re not supposed to love. While she was thriving in her environment, though, she got a wake-up call that made her realize that she’d been neglecting …

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Ep. 82 - Luke Hastings: Masculinity 1:06:04

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Luke Hastings, also recognized as the Narrowwayman, joins us for an episode to talk about Masculinity, why it is not toxic, and why it is important. We talk about why masculinity plays an important role for men in singleness and why God created men to be masculine.By Thomas DeLong/Joshua Erickson/Luke Hastings

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Paula Edgar | How to Boldly Be YOU in Everything You Do 42:44

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Paula T. Edgar, Esq. is the CEO of PGE Consulting Group LLC, an organizational strategy firm providing training and educational services to promote professional development and DEI. As a sought-after keynote speaker and facilitator, Paula develops customized programming for attendees, integrating personal branding, relationship building, and busine…

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Ep. 81 - Mylee Bankston: Navigating the Bad Advice 49:51

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Mylee Bankston, author of Is Being Single a Gift, talks about a lot of the bad advice she was given in her singleness and we discuss the truths that counter them. Mylee works in the heart of the music industry in Nashville, TN, and ironically soon after publishing her book, she ended up meeting her spouse and they were married soon after. She still…

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Gina Zapanta | No Excuses: The Power of Investing in Yourself and Others 40:00

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Gina Zapanta is the Co-founder and Partner of Z.A. Lawyers, a firm dedicated to protecting injured workers’ rights. She is also the CEO of AlderLaw and the Founder of Empowered with Gina, a platform for women to embrace empowerment. Passionate about helping others empower themselves through education, motivation, and community-building, Gina offers…

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Kelly Culhane | Keeping It Real: How To Make a Difference for Yourself and Others 32:59

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Kelly Rittenberry Culhane is the Founder and Managing Partner of Culhane Meadows, the largest full-service, women-owned law firm in the US. She is a member of the firm’s insurance and outsourcing practice groups, where she handles sourcing human resources, professional services, consultant functions, and risk management counseling. Kelly has over 2…

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Ep. 80 - Jackson Southern: God's Timing 48:10

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Jackson Southern joins us for another episode to talk about what it looks like to trust in God's timing, and the challenges surrounding it.By Thomas DeLong/Taylor Cyr/Jakckson Southern

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Carolyn Blessing & Mehtap Cevher Conti | How Women’s Initiatives Can Create Maximum Impact 40:13

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Carolyn Blessing is a Partner at Locke Lord LLP, a premier full-service law firm. In her practice, she focuses on IP pharmaceutical matters and Hatch-Waxman litigation. With experience in the FDA regulatory, food and beverage, and pharmaceutical industries, Carolyn represents pharmaceutical and biotechnology companies in all aspects of federal IP l…

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Audrey Miller | Why and How To Support Your Law Firm’s Revenue Enablers 33:22

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Audrey Miller is an Operational Excellence Consultant at Calibrate, an executive search and organizational consultancy helping law firms optimize their talent, processes, and performance. Calibrate offers executive search and talent management operations strategies like business assessments, analytics and implementation, and leadership advice to he…

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Ep. 79 - Shannon Flake: Become Obsessed with Gratitude 55:15

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Shannon, also recognized as The Steady Single on Instagram, joins us for an episode to talk about multiple things, including how becomming obsessed with gratude has helped her in singleness as well as discussion around surrendering, controlling our perspctive, dating, and the importance of masculinity and femeninity.…

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Heidi K. Brown | The Flourishing Lawyer: Achieve Optimal Performance AND Well-Being 40:47

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Heidi K. Brown is the Associate Dean for Upper Level Writing at the New York Law School and a former litigator in the construction industry. As a University of Virginia School of Law graduate, she earned her master’s degree in applied positive psychology in 2021. Heidi is an internationally recognized speaker and the author of three books about law…

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Shaun Jardine | Stop Billing Hours! Why and How To Embrace Value Pricing 42:07

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Shaun Jardine is the Managing Director of Big Yellow Penguin, which encourages businesses to adopt alternative pricing methods. As a non-practicing solicitor and mediator, Shaun served as the Commercial Director and CEO of Brethertons LLP, a top UK 250 law firm. During his tenure, he led the design and implementation of a value-based pricing projec…

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Ep. 78 - Stacey Szczepanski: Unlocking Love 58:49

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Stacey Szczepanski, author of Unlocking Love joins us for an episode to share about how being catfished lead to her finding calling in her singleness, and how she learned to lean into the Lord more in the difficult times. Stacey and Josh find common ground discussing singleness and the Church while Tom chimes in with his perspective on it as the ma…