Till The Wheels Fall Off (TWFO) podcast is hosted by Matt and Paige Robinson. TWFO focuses primarily on the relationship dynamics between spouses and partners of alcoholics or addicts and ways to best navigate the difficulties of codependent, addicted, unstable, and narcissistic behavior. The program is enjoyable and informative for anyone seeking self-betterment, inspiration, perspective, or direction with themes ranging from boundaries, recovery, marriage, and parenting with tons of humor ...
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Paige's Perspective: If Mother’s Day Hurts, You’re Not Alone
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11:12Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Mother’s Day can feel complicated, especially when life doesn’t look the way you thought it would. Maybe you’re raising kids alone. Maybe your partner is deep in addiction. Maybe you have an unequal partner and just feel all the feels. In this episode, I talk directly to the women who feel unseen, forgotten, or …
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How You Say It Matters More Than What You Say
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1:12:24Have an episode suggestion? Text us! This episode isn’t about fixing your partner. It’s not about getting the outcome you’re hoping for. It’s about you - how you respond when you're frustrated, dismissed, overwhelmed, or ignored. We’re talking tone, delivery, body language, and why 93% of communication has nothing to do with the words you use. Whet…
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Audio Newsletter: You Can Rest, But Don’t Quit
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46:39Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this special audio edition of the newsletter, Matt shares a listener story that’s all too familiar: someone begins the work: therapy, sobriety, growth - but eventually hits a wall and stops. What do you do when your partner says things like “I’m tired of doing the work” or “What if this is the best I get?” Ho…
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Paige's Perspective: Behavior Over Bullsh*t: Stop Blaming the Label
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10:30Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this episode of Paige’s Perspective, we’re cutting through the noise and getting back to the basics — because somewhere along the way, we started overcomplicating what’s right in front of us. Addiction. Trauma. ADHD. Nervous system dysregulation. You name it — there’s a label for every behavior now, and we’ve…
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Painful but Necessary: How Natural Consequences Spark Real Change
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1:16:18Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this powerful episode of Till the Wheels Fall Off, we dive deep into one of the most misunderstood concepts in recovery and relationships: natural consequences. We unpack the difference between allowing natural consequences versus trying to teach lessons or punish, and why intentions matter so much. We share …
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Paige's Perspective: You’re Not Overreacting: The Truth About DARVO
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22:05Have an episode suggestion? Text us! This week on Paige’s Perspective, we’re digging into DARVO—the manipulative pattern people use to avoid accountability by flipping the script and making you question your reality. You’ll learn what DARVO looks like, why it happens, and how to spot it in both loud and subtle forms (even the sweet, guilt-soaked ki…
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The Truth That Changed Everything: What Finally Made Me Get Sober
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1:34:23Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Matt sits down for an unfiltered, no-holds-barred conversation about the moment everything changed - the exact point he knew he couldn’t lie one more time, couldn’t hide one more day, and had to choose either transformation or destruction. Paige asks the raw questions our listeners always want answered: What fin…
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Paige's Perspective: When 'It’s Not That Bad' Is Still Too Bad
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13:58Have an episode suggestion? Text us! You’ve said it. Maybe weekly. “He’s just stressed.” “He only acts like this when he’s drinking.” “That's just how they were raised.” But here’s the truth: just because you’ve gotten used to it… doesn’t mean it’s healthy. In this episode, Paige breaks down the quiet ways we minimize emotional abuse and excuse hur…
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How to Bounce Back: Mistakes, Shame, and Second Chances
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1:20:14Have an episode suggestion? Text us! We all screw up, but how you respond to a mistake says way more about you than the mistake itself. In this episode, we have a raw, honest conversation about emotional regulation, accountability, and how to bounce back after you’ve messed up. Whether it’s a bad tone with your kids or a history of bigger mistakes …
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Paige's Perspective: Self-Love Isn’t Soft - Why It Scares You and How to Do It Anyway
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20:59Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Do you ever feel afraid to love yourself? You’re not alone—and you’re not broken. In this episode, Paige gets real about the fear, discomfort, and confusion that often comes with the concept of self-love. She unpacks why loving yourself can feel unsafe, selfish, or even threatening depending on your past, your p…
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Clapping Back is Still Looking Back: Why Petty Feuds Keep You Tied to the Pain
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1:25:58Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Revenge might feel good for a moment—but what does it really get you? In this raw and hilarious episode of Till the Wheels Fall Off, we unpack the difference between being petty and being powerful. From glitter bombs to passive-aggressive laundry comments to clapback culture on social media, they explore why pet…
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Paige's Perspective: Social Media Is Loud, But You Don’t Have to Be Lost in It
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15:37Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this episode, Paige gets real about the toll social media can take on our nervous systems, identity, and sense of reality. Inspired by a quote—“Normal is 7 hours of screen time a day”—she opens up about why she’s taking a step back, how social media may create low-agency behavior, and what it really means to …
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High Agency, Part Two: Navigating the Traps That Keep You Stuck
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1:44:47Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In Part Two of our High Agency series, Matt and Paige dive even deeper into what it really means to live a high agency life—and what gets in the way. We unpack the traps that keep people stuck: the vague trap, the midwit trap, the rumination trap, and the overwhelm trap. You’ll hear how overthinking and searchin…
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Paige's Perspective: Life Is a Sh*t Show—Even If, You'll Be Okay
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13:48Have an episode suggestion? Text us! “What if they relapse?” “What if I mess up?” “What if everything falls apart?” If those questions live rent-free in your mind, this episode is for you. I’ll show you how one simple shift—from “What if” to “Even if”—can change the way you cope with stress, fear, and uncertainty. You’ll hear mindset exercises, hon…
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High Agency, Part One: Reclaiming Your Power When Life Feels Out of Control
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59:24Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this solo episode, Matt breaks down the core beliefs that define high agency—an empowering mindset rooted in action, clarity, and personal responsibility. Inspired by George Mack’s High Agency essay, Matt explores five foundational beliefs that high agency people carry and shares practical exercises you can s…
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Paige's Perspective: The Discomfort of Silence
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11:10Have an episode suggestion? Text us! If silence makes you restless, anxious, or uneasy, you’re not alone. For many, silence isn’t peaceful. The second things get quiet, all the thoughts, emotions, and fears we’ve been avoiding start creeping in. And if you’ve been living in survival mode, silence doesn’t feel safe, it feels like the calm before the…
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Stop Thinking, Start Doing: Why Common Sense Beats Over-Analysis
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1:03:40Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Has common sense officially left the building? In this unapologetically real episode, we dive into why people are more confused than ever despite having access to endless information. From the rise of pop psychology trends and over-pathologizing human behavior to the pitfalls of therapy culture and self-diagnosi…
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Paige's Perspective: Fear of Rejection - Why It Feels So Big After Loving an Addict
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10:07Have an episode suggestion? Text us! If you’ve loved someone struggling with addiction—whether you’re still in the relationship or you’ve left—the fear of rejection can feel overwhelming. It’s not just about someone saying “no,” it feels personal. It feels like proof that you weren’t enough. But what if rejection isn’t what you think it is? In this…
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Find Your Tribe: Why Community Changes Everything
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55:20Have an episode suggestion? Text us! We get it—healing feels like something you have to do alone. But what if that’s exactly what’s keeping you stuck? In this episode, we’re breaking down why community isn’t just helpful—it’s essential. We saw it firsthand this past weekend, and we’re here to tell you that if you’re not already part of a supportive…
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Paige's Perspective: Breaking Free from Irrational Anxiety
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16:23Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Do you feel like you're constantly battling anxiety, even when there’s no real threat? In this episode of Paige’s Perspective, we’re diving into irrational anxiety—when fear and worry take over your mind despite the lack of actual danger. I share my personal journey with anxiety, the bandaid solutions that didn’…
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Stop Waiting to Feel Ready: Why Action Beats Emotion Every Time
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59:49Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Are your feelings keeping you stuck? Whether you’re a spouse of an addict waiting for them to change, someone considering divorce but trapped by fear, struggling with weight loss, or trying to build a better career or life—you might be making one crucial mistake: waiting for the right feeling to take action. In …
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Paige's Perspective: Feel the Feels… But Don’t Feed Them
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16:44Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Are your emotions guiding you or controlling you? In this episode of Paige’s Perspective, we break down the difference between feeling your emotions and being ruled by them. You’ve heard us say “Feel the Feels,” but also “Eff your feelings.” So which one is it? Both. Emotional regulation isn’t about ignoring fee…
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The Power of Feeling Seen in Relationships: Feeling Known > Knowing
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59:34Have an episode suggestion? Text us! What makes a great relationship? Is it knowing everything about your partner, or is it feeling truly known by them? In this episode of Till the Wheels Fall Off, we dig deep into what it means to be seen, heard, and understood in our closest relationships. Drawing from personal experiences, text conversations, an…
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Paige's Perspective: Everyone’s Journey Is Different... But Is It?
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20:28Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this episode of Paige’s Perspective, Paige challenges the popular idea that “everyone’s journey is different.” While our circumstances might vary, the emotional struggles we face—grief, betrayal, fear, loneliness—are universal. Paige dives into how believing your pain is unique can actually keep you stuck, is…
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The Fine Line Between Support and Emotional Burden
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1:18:28Have an episode suggestion? Text us! As parents, we want to raise strong, resilient kids—but sometimes, without realizing it, we lean on them in ways that can be damaging. In this episode, we’re tackling the tough but crucial topic of parentification, enmeshment, and emotional incest—when kids are put in roles they were never meant to fill. We brea…
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Paige's Perspective: Are We Living by Old Rules That No Longer Apply?
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15:11Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this episode of Paige’s Perspective, we’re diving into why so many women struggle with people-pleasing, caretaking, and suppressing their needs—and the truth about where these behaviors actually come from. Spoiler alert: you weren’t born this way. For generations, women have been conditioned to put everyone e…
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This Stops With You: How to Break Generational Cycles & Rewire Your Life
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1:31:43Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Breaking free from generational cycles isn't just about addiction—it’s about rewiring everything you were conditioned to believe: how you communicate, how you cope, how you parent, and how you love. In this episode, we dive deep into what it really means to break toxic patterns, why it’s so hard, and how to meas…
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Paige's Perspective: The Truth About Judgment – Why It’s Necessary and Where the Line Is
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13:59Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this episode of Paige’s Perspective, we’re breaking down the truth about judgment—why it’s not the problem, but ignoring your instincts is. Society tells you that being judgmental is wrong, that you should always give the benefit of the doubt, and that compassion should override discernment. But what happens …
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Why You’re Still Stuck (And How to Break Free)
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1:01:05Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Ever feel like no matter what you do, you're just spinning your wheels? There’s a reason for that. In this episode, we break down four sneaky mental traps that keep people stuck in bad relationships, dead-end jobs, toxic habits, and cycles of regret. We’re talking about: Why you’re measuring the wrong things in …
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Paige's Perspective: The Silent Abuse of Addiction - What No One Wants to Admit
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19:59Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this episode of Paige’s Perspective, we’re breaking down the excuses addicts use to justify staying the same—the guilt trips, the half-promises, and the ways they frame their struggles to keep you invested. You’ve heard it all: “In sickness and in health,” “Unconditional love means accepting me as I am,” “I’m…
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Whose Story Is It to Tell? Breaking the Silence on Addiction, Trauma, and Truth
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1:12:08Have an episode suggestion? Text us! When addiction, trauma, or abuse shape your life, how much of that story is yours to share? In this raw and thought-provoking episode of Till the Wheels Fall Off, we tackle the controversial question of whether speaking out about your experiences is an act of healing or betrayal. Too often, spouses of addicts ar…
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Paige's Perspective: What Does It Mean To Be Present
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7:56Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this reflection, Paige explores the true essence of being present and why it matters. She shares a childhood memory of quiet connection with nature, illustrating how presence can ground us, ease anxiety, and bring clarity. Paige discusses practical ways to cultivate this mindset, from grounding exercises and …
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Put the Shovel Down: Insights from Amber Hollingsworth on Addiction, Accountability, and Support
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1:35:48Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this episode of Till the Wheels Fall Off, we are joined by Amber Hollingsworth, the creator of the YouTube channel Put the Shovel Down and founder of Hope for Families Recovery Center. Together, we explore the misunderstood role of spouses in the recovery process, the power of influence over control, and why …
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Paige's Perspective: Anxiety, Authenticity, and Acting on Your Values
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11:19Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this episode of Paige’s Perspective, Paige dives into the essential question: Are you living by your values? Drawing inspiration from a Freya India article on anxiety and values, she reflects on how self-love and self-respect aren’t given—they’re earned through action. Paige breaks down how values like honest…
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Earning Back Trust: Sheri and Matt Salis on the Pain and Power of Recovery
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1:33:07Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this episode, we sit down with Sheri and Matt Salis from the Untoxicated Podcast to explore the complexities of addiction, recovery, and the profound impact these experiences have on relationships. Sheri and Matt share their journey, starting from the early years of their marriage, through the decade of Matt'…
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Paige's Perspective: The Hard Truth: No One Can Save You But You
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23:45Have an episode suggestion? Text us! It’s a week into the new year, and while resolutions are fresh on our minds, some of you may already feel yourself slipping. This is the perfect time to confront a reality that can change everything: no one is coming to save you. If you’ve been waiting for someone to fix your life, make decisions for you, or pul…
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Stop Digging: How to Create Your Own Rock Bottom
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1:19:11Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this episode of Till the Wheels Fall Off, we dive into the paradox of lukewarm lives and why sometimes, when things get worse, it can actually be the catalyst for positive change. We explore how challenging times teach us about relationships, resilience, and what truly makes a great partner. From navigating e…
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Paige’s Perspective: Are You Asking the Right Questions?
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13:55Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this episode of Paige’s Perspective, we dive into the power of the questions we ask ourselves and how they shape our lives. Are your inner questions keeping you stuck, or are they guiding you toward growth? Learn how to identify disempowering questions like, “Why does this always happen to me?” and reframe th…
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Recognize How Far You’ve Come: A Two-Part Reflection on Growth; Plus Hard Truths On Communication, and Compatibility
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1:24:12Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this two-part New Year’s special, we dive deep into the lessons, challenges, and victories of the past year. We reflect on our personal growth, professional milestones, and the hard truths that shaped our journey—and maybe yours too. Part one kicks off with a powerful year-end review exercise, designed to hel…
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Paige's Perspective: Balancing Empathy and Boundaries
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14:33Have an episode suggestion? Text us! Empathy is a beautiful quality, but when it starts to overshadow your self-respect, it can become a trap. In this episode, Paige explores the fine line between caring for someone and enabling them, unpacking why letting people face the consequences of their actions is often the most loving—and respectful—choice …
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Paige’s Perspective: Complaining – Are You Venting or Staying Stuck?
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11:45Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this episode, we’re getting real about complaining—why we do it, when it’s healthy, and when it becomes a trap that keeps us stuck. Complaining isn’t the enemy; sometimes, you need to let off steam and call out the frustration. But here’s the truth: if all you’re doing is talking about the problem without tak…
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The Year We Made Things Right: Facing Holiday Tension Head-On
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1:06:54Have an episode suggestion? Text us! The holidays can get messy when unspoken issues come to light. In this episode of Till the Wheels Fall Off, we dive into the complexities of accountability during the holiday season. When a spouse or partner’s actions have rippled out and hurt family or friends, how do you navigate the awkward tension? Matt shar…
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Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this episode, Paige shares thoughts on Optimism Theatre—a concept Matt explored in a recent TWFO article. While he told the story from his perspective as someone in recovery, Paige focuses on why it’s so difficult for spouses and partners to set boundaries and be assertive in these relationships. I dive into …
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Celeste Yvonne - A Conversation on Sobriety, Motherhood, Reconnecting Emotionally and Breaking Societal Norms
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1:37:05Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this episode of Till the Wheels Fall Off, we sit down with the brilliant Celeste Yvonne, celebrated author of It’s Not About the Wine and a powerful voice in the conversation on sobriety, motherhood, and societal expectations. Celeste shares her deeply personal journey of quitting alcohol, navigating the ment…
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Paige's Perspective: Regulating Your Nervous System
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9:29Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this episode of Paige's Perspective, we’re breaking down what it really means to regulate your nervous system—and why practices like mindfulness and deep breathing won’t cut it if you’re still stuck in toxic situations. Paige explores how your environment and relationships shape your stress response, why temp…
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Dr. Jake Porter -The Truth About Sex Addiction, Betrayal Trauma, and How to Rebuild Trust
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1:25:07Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this deeply insightful episode of Till the Wheels Fall Off, we sit down with Dr. Jake Porter, a leading expert in relational and betrayal trauma, sex addiction recovery, and emotional intimacy. Dr. Porter brings years of professional expertise and personal experience to unpack the complexities of sex and porn…
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Paige's Perspective: Celebrating Your Hidden Wins
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19:21Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this episode of Paige's Perspective, we shift the focus from what we haven’t done to the unseen victories we’ve achieved. Paige opens up about her year, one filled with challenges, growth, and stepping outside her comfort zone. From professional milestones to personal wins like reconnecting with old passions …
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Stop Fexting: How Text Fights Are Ruining Your Relationship
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1:05:18Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this episode of Till the Wheels Fall Off, Matt and Paige dive headfirst into the digital dumpster fire of text fighting—aka "fexting." They tackle why arguing via text rarely accomplishes anything productive, how it’s become the modern default for conflict, and why it’s often a sign of deeper communication is…
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Paige's Perspective: Is Happiness a Choice?
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21:08Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this episode of Paige’s Perspective, we dive into the age-old question: Is happiness a choice? Inspired by a recent conversation with Dr. Taylor, we explore what it really means to choose happiness, especially when life feels overwhelming or relationships are challenging. Spoiler: happiness isn’t the goal—it’…
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Dr. Christopher Taylor: Attachment Styles, Narcissism, and the Rise of Over-Labeling
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1:11:49Have an episode suggestion? Text us! In this episode of Till the Wheels Fall Off, Matt and Paige are joined by Dr. Christopher Taylor to explore the impact of labeling behaviors in relationships, from attachment styles to narcissism. They discuss how these labels can either empower or trap us, depending on how they're used, and examine the role of …
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