Welcome to the Passive Income Pilots Podcast – the show designed to help pilots climb to new levels of financial success. Join Tait Duryea & Ryan Gibson, both airline pilots, business owners and investors, as they interview top experts and share practical knowledge on real estate, tax strategy, passive income and generational wealth. This one-of-a-kind show created specifically for professional pilots offers applicable strategies and tactics for improving your financial life. Whether you're ...
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Welcome to the exclusive private podcast for Investor Club members. Enjoy episodes of our monthly Hangar Talks, masterclasses, webinars, and Q&A sessions, all in a convenient format for you to listen on the go. Join Tait Duryea and the Turbine Capital team for valuable conversation, insight into investment opportunities, and explore options to expand your investment portfolio.
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#136 - What HGTV Won’t Tell You About Flipping Houses with Leka Devatha
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41:30Are you using the exit strategies that actually work in this market? Hosts Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson talk with seasoned investor and author Leka Devatha to pull back the curtain on what’s real and what’s not in flipping, reality TV, and today’s housing market. Get ready to uncover the truth behind her Amazon Prime episode, learn the creative stra…
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#135 - The Truth About Oil and Gas Investing with Tim Pawul
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52:50Are you unknowingly passing up five-figure tax savings available right now? Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with oil and gas expert Tim Pawul to reveal why minerals, royalties, and non-operated working interests have become one of the most powerful tools for cash flow and tax strategy. Get ready to understand the real reason hydrocarbons aren’…
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#134 - Fatigue, Flight Deck Safety, and the Science of Sleep with Dr. Adam Shapiro
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49:53Sleep becomes exciting, especially when it’s with Dr. Adam Shapiro. Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with this board-certified sleep specialist and ATP pilot to uncover what every aviator needs to know to protect their health and their medical. Get ready for practical guidance on staying sharp, staying healthy, and staying in the cockpit longer…
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#133 - Year-End Tax Moves Pilots Can’t Miss with Toby Mathis
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52:37Taxes become more exciting, especially when it’s with Toby Mathis. Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson welcome back tax strategist and investor Toby Mathis for another powerhouse session on how to keep more of your money before year-end. From bonus depreciation and the short-term rental loophole to smarter charitable giving and donor-advised funds, Toby re…
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#132 - How to Buy an Airport with Robert DeLaurentis
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55:43What happens when a real estate investor decides to buy an airport? In this episode, host Tait and Ryan sit down with Robert DeLaurentis, the “Peace Pilot,” to unpack how he transformed a rundown airport into a thriving hub of aviation and community life. Robert shares how his decades in multifamily real estate funded his passion for flying, why le…
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#131 - Reading the Economy: Insights from the Bowtie Economist, Dr. Elliot Eisenberg
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40:38Where should you put your money right now? Ryan Gibson and Tait Duryea sit down with economist Dr. Elliot Eisenberg to decode the markets, interest rates, and the economic forces shaping your portfolio. From AI layoffs to multifamily real estate, they break down how high-income earners, especially pilots, can build wealth intelligently amid uncerta…
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#130 - From Wall Street to Real Wealth: Lessons from Ted Greene
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28:56What does true diversification look like when you’re building wealth as a pilot? In this episode, Ryan Gibson sits down with his longtime colleague and friend, Ted Greene, to unpack how to define success with your spouse, avoid emotional investing, and create a portfolio that brings peace of mind. From surviving Wall Street lawsuits to building las…
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#129 - Ego, Taxes, and the Paycheck Trap: Pilot Wealth Myths Exposed
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29:42Why do so many high-earning pilots struggle to build real wealth? Hosts Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson get candid about the habits, mindset, and blind spots that keep aviators from achieving true financial independence. They reveal the five biggest mistakes pilots make, from lifestyle creep and tax traps to ego-driven investing, and how to replace the…
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We are thrilled to announce the opening of our Iron Horse Energy Fund, a $100M domestic drilling program offering accredited investors access to high-quality wells alongside major operators like EOG, ConocoPhillips, and Continental. Founder Tait Duryea, joined by Courtney (Iron Horse Energy), Mark Fleming (30-year oil & gas veteran), and CPA Nathan…
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#128 - Inside the Fine Print: PPMs, Trust, and Investor Protection with Seth Bradley
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42:46What do private placement memorandums really mean for you as an investor? Hosts Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with attorney and real estate operator Seth Bradley to pull back the curtain on syndication documents, accreditation rules, and what truly protects investors. Seth shares his personal journey from med school to big law to entrepreneu…
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#127 - LLCs, Trusts, and K-1s: Smarter Asset Protection with Adam Kintigh
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52:03How protected is your wealth if something goes wrong? In this episode of Passive Income Pilots, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with asset protection expert Adam Kintigh to share practical strategies every pilot and high-income professional should know. From real estate privacy trusts that cut transfer taxes to Wyoming LLCs that safeguard synd…
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What’s the smartest way to position yourself in today’s real estate market? Tait Duryea and Hunter Thompson dissect the capital stack and explain how investors can use private debt, common equity, and preferred equity to balance risk and reward. They reveal why banks hold the safest seat at the table, how leverage amplifies returns, and why PREF eq…
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What does it really take to grow wealth as a high-income professional? In this Hangar Talk, the team shares updates on the upcoming Investor Weekend in Colorado, including property tours, golf at Four Mile Ranch, and fireside conversations with oil and gas advisor Mark Fleming. You’ll also learn about the “buddy bidding” program, self-directed reti…
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#126 - Early Real Estate Mistakes and Lessons Learned
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33:11What separates pilots who want to invest from those who actually succeed? In this episode, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson share the real stories behind their first deals, the mistakes they made, and the lessons that still guide them today. From disastrous single-family rentals to managing multifamily properties, they explain why failure is often the b…
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Join Turbine Capital CEO Tait Duryea and Asym Capital founder Hunter Thompson as they sit down on-site at Azara Tempe. In this 15-minute conversation, Hunter shares why Phoenix remains one of the strongest multifamily markets in the U.S., how today’s challenges are more about financing than fundamentals, and why this property’s location, basis, and…
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In this episode, we hosted a Live Q&A Forum for Azara Tempe, giving investors the opportunity to ask questions, discuss the business plan, review underwriting, explore different share classes, understand the location, and hear more of the backstory behind this multifamily investment opportunity. To reserve your spot or discover more about Azara Tem…
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Azara Tempe Webinar with Hunter Thompson and Tyler Lyons
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59:51In this episode, we share the full investor webinar for Azara Tempe, a 56-unit multifamily community in the premier North Tempe submarket of Phoenix, Arizona. The Turbine Capital and Asym Capital teams walk through the opportunity, business plan, and share classes available to investors. For more information or to submit a commitment, please visit …
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#125 - Oil & Gas Investing for High-Income Pilots with Mark Fleming
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52:18Can oil and gas really be a smart play for high-income professionals? In this episode, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with Mark Fleming, petroleum engineer and Turbine Capital’s oil & gas advisor, to break it down. From the basics of how drilling works to the tax advantages that can offset W2 income, you’ll learn the realities of this often-m…
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#124 - $44 Trillion and the Future of Retirement Investing with Mat Sorensen
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50:52Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson welcome Mat Sorensen, CEO of Directed IRA, for a powerful discussion on how pilots and high-income professionals can unlock private investment opportunities through retirement accounts. From self-directed IRAs to Solo Ks, Mat explains the mechanics of rolling over old 401(k)s, navigating recent regulatory changes, and ta…
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#123 - Market Cycles, Debt, and Real Estate Opportunities with Hunter Thompson
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49:22Is now the right time to buy real estate or to hold cash? In this episode, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with Hunter Thompson, founder of Asym Capital and host of Cash Flow Connections, to unpack today’s real estate market. They cover cycles, debt structures, the COVID impact, rising interest rates, and why current distress is more about fin…
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Turbine Capital Annual Shareholder Event 2025
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1:22:45Tait Duryea hosts Turbine Capital’s 2025 Annual Shareholder Event, reflecting on the firm’s most successful year to date. With Brittney Atiburcio and guest advisor Mark Fleming, the team shares company growth, portfolio performance across 30 active deals, and insights into today’s economic reset. They also share updates on multifamily, industrial, …
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Hangar Talk August 2025: Houston, Tempe, and the 2025 Oil & Gas Fund Explained
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27:18Tait Duryea and the Turbine Capital team break down key investor updates, starting with the fast-approaching August 15th subscription deadline for the Houston storage deal. Hear about Azara Tempe, a 56-unit multifamily near ASU with strong occupancy, solid returns, and significant depreciation benefits. Then meet Mark Fleming, Turbine Capital’s new…
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Hangar Talk July 2025: Oil & Gas Tax Strategies
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29:49Tait Duryea welcomes Nathan Sosa for the first guest appearance of the Hangar Talk series to break down one of the most powerful and misunderstood tax advantages available to high-income earners: oil and gas investing. They unpack how working interests can offset W-2 income, why structure matters, and how the upcoming Iron Horse Energy Fund is desi…
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Hangar Talk June 2025: Cashflow, Capital, and Splits
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29:18What do “7% preferred return” and “70/30 split” actually mean for your investment? In this Hangar Talk episode, Tait Duryea breaks down how cashflow and waterfalls work in GP-LP real estate deals. Using relatable rental property examples, he explains preferred returns, equity multiples, liquidity events, capital account reductions, and the tax trea…
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#122 - How Pilots Use Whole Life Insurance to Fund Investments with Rod Zabriskie
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49:50What if your life insurance could help you invest without selling a single asset? Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson welcome back Rod Zabriskie of Money Insights to demystify how whole life insurance can be used as a wealth-building tool. They break down the differences between term and whole life, how cash value grows, and why this strategy avoids risks …
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Houston Storage: Why This Deal Stands Out
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10:09What makes a deal boring, and why might that be a good thing? In this episode of the Turbine Capital Private Podcast, Ryan Gibson joins Tait Duryea for a candid conversation about their latest Houston acquisition and why it may be the strongest deal they’ve done to date. With $30M already committed and closing set for late August, Tait Duryea and R…
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Welcome to the Turbine Capital Private Podcast
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8:53Welcome to the launch of the Turbine Capital Private Podcast, your insider track to everything happening at Turbine, from deal flow to strategy, directly from the source. Host Tait Duryea introduces the platform, and he is joined by Jon Yost and TJ Johnson, who share their aviation backgrounds, personal investing journeys, and key roles within the …
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#121 - Short-Term Rentals, Long-Term Wealth with Pilot Couple Brad Hilton and Aubrey Carlson
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54:12What if your first home turned into your first big win? Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson welcome Brad Hilton and Aubrey Carlson, a powerhouse pilot couple who turned a VA loan into a cash-flowing real estate business. From renovating a dated beach house to designing destination-worthy cabins in Julian, CA, Brad and Aubrey break down how they scaled a sh…
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#120 - How to Evaluate Markets, Properties, and Risks in Real Estate with Derrick Harris
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1:00:00What separates a solid real estate deal from a costly mistake? In this episode, hosts Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson welcome Derrick Harris, SVP at Spartan Investment Group, to walk us through the real-world process of evaluating markets, properties, and operational risks. With a portfolio that spans millions of square feet, Derrick shares what works,…
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#119 - LLCs, Trusts, and Bulletproof Asset Protection with Adam Kintigh
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53:43What if your rental property is a lawsuit away from costing you everything? Tait Duryea connects with asset protection expert Adam Kintigh of Nevada Corporate Headquarters to break down what every investor should know about shielding wealth. From piercing the corporate veil to choosing between LLCs and real estate privacy trusts, this episode cover…
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#118 - The Big Beautiful Tax Bill with Nathan Sosa
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48:38Get ready to demystify the 2025 Tax Bill. Hosts Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with Nathan Sosa, tax strategist at Hall CPA, to uncover what this sweeping legislation really means for pilots and high-income earners. From the return of 100% bonus depreciation to new deductions for auto loans and overtime, Nathan breaks down exactly who benefit…
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#117 - How to Evaluate and Join Real Estate Syndications
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43:12Ever wonder what happens when you invest in a syndication? In this episode, hosts Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson break down how real estate syndications work, from deal sourcing and underwriting to legal docs, fees, and investor returns. Learn how passive investors get access to large-scale deals, what to look for in a sponsor, and what happens after …
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#116 - Medical Checkride: Medical Myths, Truths, and Tips with Dan Monlux
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55:19What could cost you your flying career? Not being prepared for your medical. Hosts Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson welcome back Dan Monlux of Wingman Med to discuss how pilots can protect their FAA medical certificates. Dan breaks down what happens during a medical exam, the importance of primary care, and why early detection matters. This is a must-li…
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#115 - Inside Self-Storage: A Hidden Powerhouse for Investors
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50:47Get ready to uncover the secrets of one of commercial real estate’s most resilient and misunderstood asset classes: self-storage. In this in-depth episode, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson explore why self-storage continues to outperform in uncertain times, how millennials are transforming storage use, and what makes it such a powerful wealth vehicle fo…
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#114 - Trusts, Taxes & Transfers: What Every Investor Should Know with Amanda Wynalda
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59:50In this episode, hosts Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with attorney Amanda Wynalda from Anderson Advisors to unpack everything pilots and high-income earners need to know about trusts, wills, and asset protection. From revocable vs. irrevocable trusts to layering LLCs and avoiding the due-on-sale clause, this episode is a blueprint for protec…
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#113 - The Fed, The Treasury, and Your Portfolio with Dr. Peter Linneman
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53:42In this episode, hosts Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson talk with chief economist Dr. Peter Linneman to demystify interest rates, the national deficit, and how it all affects pilots, real estate investors, and entrepreneurs. Discover why U.S. debt may not be the threat it’s made out to be, how capital flows drive values, and what most people get wrong a…
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#112 - The Tax Strategies Every Pilot Should Know in 2025 with Thomas Castelli
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47:15In this episode, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson welcome CPA Thomas Castelli of Hall CPA to break down the latest tax developments affecting high-income earners. From the potential return of 100% bonus depreciation to how the real estate professional status works in practice, Tom shares key strategies to help you keep more of what you earn. Whether you…
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#111 - Five Investing Strategies for High-Earning Pilots
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44:56Get ready to fast-track your financial freedom. In this power-packed solo episode, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson share the top strategies from over 110 episodes of Passive Income Pilots. From unlocking hidden cash in your 401(k) and home equity to leveraging life insurance and short-term rentals for major tax breaks, they distill years of pilot-speci…
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#110 - The IRA Club Advantage: The Self-Directed IRA Strategy for Pilots with Ramez Fakhoury
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54:06In this episode, hosts Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson welcome Ramez Fakhoury from IRA Club. This episode dives into how pilots can unlock old 401(k)s, TSPs, and HSAs for real estate and other alternative investments. Hear a detailed story of a Southwest pilot transitioning to American Airlines and learn what decisions made the biggest impact. Whether …
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#109 - The Flight Plan for Syndications: Risk, Returns, and Real Wealth
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39:19In this episode, hosts Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson deliver an in-depth, pilot-friendly primer on syndications and passive real estate investing. They break down the risk spectrum from core to opportunistic deals, while sharing real-world analogies and experiences from their own projects, like the Canyon City land entitlement. Learn how to properly …
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#108 - Case Study: Real Estate Professional Status That Held Up in Court with Brandon Hall
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21:04In this episode, Tait Duryea flies solo to spotlight a powerful tax strategy many high-income earners overlook: real estate professional status. Featuring Brandon Hall from Hall CPA, this episode breaks down a real tax court victory by a harbor pilot who leveraged a flexible W-2 job schedule to claim REP status and unlock massive tax savings. Disco…
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#107 - Take Control of Your Capital: Infinite Banking Strategy With Brent Kesler
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38:43Host Tait Duryea sits down with Brent Kesler, a seasoned life insurance strategist, to explore how pilots and high-income earners can build wealth by turning whole life insurance into a personal banking system. Brent breaks down the misunderstood "infinite banking" concept and how it can be used for real estate, debt payoff, or high-return lending—…
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#106 – Time Freedom and Cash Strategies with Brian Herriot
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39:31Hosts Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson welcome financial strategist Brian Herriot for a thought-provoking conversation on redefining retirement and wealth. Explore the power of time freedom, why cash might be your most underappreciated asset, and how to build passive income streams that work for pilots and professionals alike. Brian shares practical tac…
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#105 - Buying and Building a Profitable Aviation Business with James Spearman
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46:05In this episode, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson are joined by James Spearman, owner of Spearman Aircraft and Iconic Rides. James walks through his journey of acquiring and scaling an aircraft maintenance business through seller financing, boosting its value through streamlined systems and strategic marketing. He shares the mindset and steps that helpe…
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#104 - Active vs. Passive: Storage Strategies from the Flight Deck with Michael Meylor
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49:01In this episode, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with Michael Meylor, a seasoned pilot and self-storage investor who has built an impressive portfolio without raising outside capital. Michael shares how he transitioned from military to commercial flying, how he and his wife started investing in single-family rentals, and why they pivoted to co…
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#103 - Multifamily Mastery: Building Cashflow and Legacy with Gino Barbaro
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45:35In this episode, Tait Duryea welcomes Gino Barbaro of Jake & Gino to unpack the mindset and mechanics behind building lasting wealth through multifamily real estate. Gino shares his journey from running a family restaurant to becoming a real estate investor with over 1,800 units. They explore topics like values-based decision-making, creating "happ…
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#102 - Creating True Passive Income Through Note Investing with Tom Force
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49:39In this episode, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson sit down with retired airline captain and seasoned investor Tom Force to discuss a real estate strategy many overlook—note investing. They cover tax strategies, risk management, and how to get started in note investing. If you’re tired of tenant headaches and want to invest like a bank, this episode is f…
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#101 - Airbnb for Aircraft: Hangar Investing & Aviation Real Estate with Trenton Ray
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41:21Hangar space is in short supply, but Trenton Ray is changing that. In this episode, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson chat with Trenton about Hangar Direct, his platform that’s like Airbnb for hangars—making it easier for pilots to find and rent space. They dive into the supply shortage, investment potential, and what to know about leasing, financing, or…
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In this special 100th episode of Passive Income Pilots, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson take listeners behind the scenes of the podcast, sharing how it all started and what goes into creating each episode. They also dive into their personal journeys in aviation, investing, and entrepreneurship. From buying their first rental properties to scaling multi…
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#99 - Turnkey Real Estate: Passive or Problematic? A Deep Dive with Zach Lemaster
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52:24In this episode, Tait Duryea and Ryan Gibson connect with Zach Lemaster to explore the world of turnkey real estate and build-to-rent properties. They discuss the benefits and challenges of owning physical real estate, the tax advantages of rental properties, and how busy professionals can invest without becoming full-time landlords. Zach shares in…
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