DEI After 5 is where inclusion meets real life. Hosted by Sacha Thompson, this weekly podcast explores how current events shape our workplaces and communities—with practical insights and honest reflection. deiafter5.substack.com
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Finding Your Community: The Key to Overcoming Isolation and Burnout
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7:04We talk a lot about burnout, disconnection, and disengagement at work—but we don’t talk enough about how community can be the antidote. In this episode of DEI After 5, I share some reflections on how easy it is—especially for middle managers—to feel like you're carrying the load alone. You're expected to show up for everyone else, but who’s holding…
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Middle Managers Hold the Line—But Who’s Supporting Them?
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36:32In this re-release of my conversation with Amy Waninger, we’re revisiting a topic that’s even more urgent today than when we first recorded it: the vital role middle managers play in building inclusive, psychologically safe workplaces—and the real cost when they’re left out of the conversation. The Reality Behind the Rhetoric It’s easy to talk abou…
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Beyond the Office Doors: How External Events Impact Our Work Lives
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9:27Let’s be real—what’s happening in the world doesn’t stop at the office door. We don’t get to hang our worries on a hook next to our coats and step into a perfectly insulated work bubble. And yet, too often, that’s exactly what workplaces expect us to do. In this week’s episode of DEI After 5, I’m talking about the impact of external events—whether …
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Middle Managers Are Burning Out—and It’s Time to Pay Attention
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1:02Welcome to this week's episode of DEI After 5. Today, I decided to shift our focus slightly while still staying within the realm of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI). Specifically, I want to delve into the inclusion aspect and address a pressing issue I've been noticing: burnout among first-line and middle managers. Through my recent webinars,…
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In this episode of DEI After 5, we celebrate the return of the podcast after a brief hiatus. Sacha reflects on the importance of continuing discussions around diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) in the workplace and beyond. While the podcast name remains the same, the focus has expanded to encompass how DEI practices influence our lives, communi…
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What does it mean to embody inclusion and belonging in your everyday life? How can community shape our success? By exploring these questions, Nancy and I uncover the importance of intentionally living out our beliefs, not just displaying them. It’s about setting the standard for behavior and modeling a culture that nurtures understanding and accept…
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Bridging the Generational Gap: Insights on Age Diversity in the Workplace
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34:39In this episode of DEI After 5, host Sacha Thompson welcomes Dr. Daniel Jolles, a behavioral scientist and research officer at the London School of Economics. They explore the often-overlooked topic of age diversity in the workplace, discussing the generational miscommunications and differing values that can arise in diverse work environments. Dr. …
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The Future of DEI in a Contentious Political Landscape
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44:17In this episode of DEI After 5, host Sacha Thompson welcomes Sara Taylor from Deep Sea Consulting to discuss the impact of election season on workplace dynamics, particularly regarding diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI). As the political landscape becomes contentious, DEI initiatives are increasingly under attack, leading to a critical examinat…
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