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This is Bricks & More, the podcast dedicated to reimagining what real estate value truly means. How it is generated, unlocked, unleashed and calculated. Hosted by Adrian Strittmatter, CEO and co founder of Saentys, a global creative consultancy specialising in destinations, real estate and the hospitality sector. Adrian and his team have worked on some of the world's most iconic destinations in over 35 countries. Each week, we'll be bringing you a conversation with top industry leaders chall ...
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Investing in Age: Unlocking Value in the Later Living Sector with Henry Lumby
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54:20In this insightful episode of Bricks & More, Adrian Strittmatter sits down with Henry Lumby, Chief Commercial Officer at Auriens, to explore one of real estate’s most untapped frontiers: later living. As populations age and expectations evolve, Henry argues that the UK’s senior living market is lagging far behind its peers – not because of lack of …
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Remodelling Office Assets for a Flexible Future with Natasha Morris
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49:50In this episode of Bricks & More, Adrian Strittmatter sits down with Natasha Morris, Director of Flex Offices at Landsec, to unpack the unstoppable rise of flexible workspaces and what it really means for real estate value. From MYO – Landsec’s premium flex brand – to the evolution of the landlord’s role, Natasha shares how customer-centric design …
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Wired for Value: Digital Infrastructure as a Market Differentiator | Tom Vaughan-Fowler, WiredScore
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45:25In this episode of Bricks & More, Adrian Strittmatter is joined by Tom Vaughan Fowler, Regional Director at WiredScore, to explore how digital infrastructure has become a cornerstone of modern real estate value. From office towers in Mayfair to industrial parks in the Middle East, Tom has seen first-hand how connectivity, resilience, and smart tech…
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Crafting Destinations and Brands for Commercial success and Lasting Value with Emma Collings
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52:50In this insight-packed episode of Bricks & More, Adrian Strittmatter sits down with Emma Collings – Group Head of Marketing at British Land – to explore how brand and marketing can transform bricks and mortar into living, breathing destinations. With a career spanning retail, real estate, finance, and social enterprise, Emma brings a rare cross-sec…
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Bricks & More is back for Season 2! This season, Adrian Strittmatter is bringing you even more – more guests, more insights, more discoveries across more locations – all focused on one thing: creating more value for more people. If you’re passionate about building places that truly perform, you won’t want to miss what’s coming. New episodes drop ve…
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Season 1 of Bricks & More is a wrap! From game-changing insights to bold conversations with industry leaders, this first season has been all about reimagining what real estate value really means. A huge thank you to our brilliant guests and to everyone who tuned in, subscribed, shared, and joined the conversation. Season 2 kicks off in September – …
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Deploy Tech & Fund the Operator to Supercharge Your Assets with Rebekah Tobias
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49:51In this bold and forward-looking episode of Bricks & More, Adrian Strittmatter is joined by Rebekah Tobias – co-founder of Propela Ventures and a veteran of capital markets, venture capital, and operational real estate – to explore what makes a real estate platform investable in 2025 and beyond. With institutional capital ready to deploy billions, …
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Rethinking Risk: The Value-Add Strategy Rooted in Discipline with Charles Tarriere
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41:21In this episode of Bricks & More, Adrian is joined by Charles Tarriere — investor, strategist, and co-founder of Evonite — to explore how value is created in today’s real estate market when risk is high, data is scarce, and cycles move fast. Charles shares how Evonite’s independent, risk-based investment model challenges the status quo, and why und…
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Building Value That Lasts: The Four Seasons Way with James Price
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50:03In this episode of Bricks & More, Adrian Strittmatter is joined by James Price – Senior Vice President Residential at Four Seasons Hotels and Resorts – to unpack what it really takes to deliver long-term value in branded real estate. Branded residences aren’t just about prestige. They’re about performance, property management, and experience – ever…
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The formula for driving office value with Louise Ioannou
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42:15In this insightful episode of Bricks & More, Adrian Strittmatter is joined by Louise Ioannou — Head of Workspace at HB Reavis UK — to explore what truly makes a modern office irresistible in 2025 and beyond. Drawing on her journey from branding to leasing, Louise shares how HB Reavis has reimagined office space as a holistic product: one shaped by …
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Strategy, Value & Growth: The unstoppable rise of branded residential with Rico Picenoni
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41:05In this episode of Bricks & More, Adrian Strittmatter speaks with Rico Picenoni – a hospitality leader who’s shaped over 500 hospitality and real estate projects globally. Together, they unpack what really drives long-term value in branded residences, and why the future of real estate lies in smart partnerships, local market knowledge, and global b…
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Experience x Efficiency: The New Office Value Equation with Dan Higginson
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52:20In this insight-packed episode of Bricks & More, Adrian Strittmatter speaks with Dan Higginson – Director of Development and Leasing at Greycoat – to explore what makes an office truly valuable in 2025 and beyond. Dan shares why the old rules of office development no longer apply – and how leading landlords are shifting from a cost-per-square-foot …
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Real estate sustainability is all about building future value w/Georgia Elliott-Smith
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54:30In this provocative episode of Bricks & More, Adrian Strittmatter is joined by Georgia Elliott-Smith – engineer, environmental activist, and founder of consultancy Element Four – to explore why sustainability isn’t just a moral imperative, but a commercial one. Georgia argues that real estate’s current approach to ESG is flawed, often more about br…
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Turning assets into priceless canvases and unique destinations
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52:29In this episode of Bricks & More, host Adrian Strittmatter sits down with Calum Hall, founder of Creative Debuts, to explore the evolving role of art in real estate. From office spaces to retail environments, Calum shares how art isn’t just an aesthetic addition—it’s a powerful tool for placemaking, community engagement, and even financial value cr…
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The unrivalled power of real estate branding and marketing with Achelle Hill
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47:38In the debut episode of Bricks & More, Adrian Strittmatter welcomes Achelle Hill, Marketing Director Europe at Lendlease, to explore the power of branding and marketing in real estate. They discuss how marketing is more than just a promotional tool—it’s a fundamental driver of long-term value creation. Key topics include: ✅ Branding as a value mult…
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Hi, I'm Adrian Strittmatter. Welcome to Bricks and More. I'm the CEO and co founder of Saentys, a global creative consultancy specializing in destinations, real estate, and the hospitality sector since 2008. My team and I have worked on some of the world's most iconic destinations across more than 35 countries. My expertise lies in real estate, bra…
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Reducing the environmental impact of the built environment. A discussion with WiredScore's Finance Director.
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14:53Jules Barker, Arie Barendrecht and Charlotte Meara, Finance Director at WiredScore, discuss the key takeaways from the previous three episodes, including the balance between making incremental vs. big bang decisions, long-term investing, and how sharing more information more openly would enable a more sustainable future for us all. If The Walls Cou…
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Reducing the environmental impact of the built environment. A conversation with Jeff Vittorio, Columbia Property Trust.
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13:18Jeff Vittorio, Vice President of Property Management at Columbia Property Trust, explains how they are working to create a more hospitality-focused experience, with tenants being seen as guests, and how Columbia Property Trust is using technology to measure, improve and report against your goals. They also discuss the benefits of using global bench…
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Reducing the environmental impact of the built environment. A conversation with Brendan Wallace, Fifth Wall.
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14:16In the US alone, decarbonizing US assets will cost 18 trillion dollars. That's why, in this episode, we discuss Fifth Wall's climate tech fund, investor returns on climate technology, and the challenges and opportunities for real estate owners. If The Walls Could Talk is a series of conversations about smart buildings, connecting key thinkers in th…
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Reducing the environmental impact of the built environment. A conversation with Doug Stewart, Cushman & Wakefield.
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14:20Doug Stewart from Cushman & Wakefield and Arie Barendrecht, WiredScore's Founder and CEO, discuss the trends driving smart buildings, how landlords could overcome challenges around retrofitting buildings to make them smart and the connection between data and sustainability. If The Walls Could Talk is a series of conversations about smart buildings,…
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Technological foundations: how to create a smart building that works. Key themes and learnings.
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14:12Arie Barendrecht, Jules Barker and Sanj Ranasinghe discuss the key themes and learnings from the previous episodes, including the value of data, how it's important to get the balance of infrastructure and experience right and why a building should stand for something before it can be built. If The Walls Could Talk is a series of conversations about…
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Technological foundations: how to create a smart building that works. A conversation with Marc Gille, Thing-it.
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14:55We discuss how landlords should focus on the stakeholders and work out what's needed by each user before deploying technologies, big data and today’s digitalisation requirements. If The Walls Could Talk is a series of conversations about smart buildings, connecting key thinkers in the property world with each other, and you. The series delves deepe…
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Technological foundations: how to create a smart building that works. A conversation with Martin Frohock, ARM.
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14:43Hear how ARM are pioneering a data-driven experience in the workplace to deliver a people-first occupancy strategy, with a holistic approach to measuring the value of their worldwide real estate footprint. If The Walls Could Talk is a series of conversations about smart buildings, connecting key thinkers in the property world with each other, and y…
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Technological foundations: how to create a smart building that works. A conversation with Silvia Llanes, Gmp.
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13:14Listen to find out how Gmp ensure their buildings are fit for the future, the importance of the new generation entering the workplace and how they use existing data from across their portfolio to develop new buildings. If The Walls Could Talk is a series of conversations about smart buildings, connecting key thinkers in the property world with each…
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User-first design: how to create a smart building that delivers. Our learnings.
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14:25In the episode, Jules, Arie and Tommy summarize the themes from the previous three conversations, highlighting learnings such as the importance of getting the foundations right in order to create a technologically flexible building, how the interoperability of systems can generate data that's truly valuable and why collaboration between systems and…
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User-first design: how to create a smart building that delivers. A conversation with Anthony Morgado, JLL.
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14:01In this episode, we find out how existing buildings can retrofit and become smart, how consultants like JLL help their clients choose the best technologies for their users and the value of data in smart buildings. If The Walls Could Talk is a series of conversations about smart buildings, connecting key thinkers in the property world with each othe…
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User-first design: how to create a smart building that delivers. The importance of user-first design.
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14:50Our conversation is with Dan Drogman, the CEO of Smart Spaces, the organization behind a smart building operating system, that brings together all the base-build systems (HVAC, indoor air quality, lighting control, CCTV, etc) under one platform, and is used by landlords all over the world. We discuss their work with the iconic 22 Bishopsgate, what …
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User-first design: how to create a smart building that delivers. With a focus on 22 Bishopsgate.
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14:31In this episode, we find out how 22 Bishopsgate was brought to life for its occupiers, what were their first steps in creating a smart building and how they ensure their building continues adapting to new technologies and remains future-proof. If The Walls Could Talk is a series of conversations about smart buildings, connecting key thinkers in the…
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How to approach creating a smart building. The importance of an outcome-driven approach.
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14:05In this episode, Arie Barendrecht chats to Jules Barker and Dave Miller from WiredScore, as they discuss the importance of having an outcome-driven approach as a driver for guiding a smart building journey, converged networks and finally, data. If The Walls Could Talk is a series of conversations about smart buildings, connecting key thinkers in th…
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How to approach creating a smart building. A consultant's perspective.
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12:37Listen to find out what the process of creating a smart building looks like from the eyes of a consultant, how a landlord, who doesn’t have a history of creating smart buildings, should start creating one and what the most frustrating challenges are that Deerns face when advising their clients through their smart journey. If The Walls Could Talk is…
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How to approach creating a smart building. A conversation with David Armour, Siemens.
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14:27David and Jules, Global Director of Product at WiredScore, discuss the role of Siemens in the process of creating a smart building, the best way for landlords to procure tech for a building and how landlords can plan for tenants that they don’t yet have when committing to technologies. If The Walls Could Talk is a series of conversations about smar…
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How to approach creating a smart building. A conversation with John Gilbert, Rudin Management Company
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14:24Listen to find out how Rudin Management Company makes decisions around what to include and what not to from a tech perspective, how they think about the returns of a smart building, and what lessons they have learned on their “smart” journey. If The Walls Could Talk is a series of conversations about smart buildings, connecting key thinkers in the …
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