The Enneagram and Marriage Podcast, hosted by Christa Hardin, MA, is rooted in two decades of experience counseling and coaching couples. On top of her expert marriage advice, Christa uses the Enneagram to add another layer of understanding in how we work as individuals and gives us deeper insight into how we connect and shine together in marriage and relationships across the collective community.
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Who are we? Why do we act, think and feel the way we do? How can we become our best, most authentic selves? Welcome to Typology, a podcast that explores the mystery of the human personality and how we can use the Enneagram typing system as a tool to become our best, most authentic selves. Hosted by author, speaker and counselor, Ian Morgan Cron, Typology features interviews with thought leaders from every sphere of life, including renowned Enneagram authors and teachers, psychologists, theol ...
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From Conflict to Connection: Transforming Relationships Through the Enneagram with Christa Hardin, MA
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59:34In this episode of Typology, we take a look at the fascinating intersection of the Enneagram and relationships with our special guest, Crista Hardin, a relationship expert and author of "The Enneagram in Marriage." Christa, an Enneagram 7, brings her vibrant energy and insights to the conversation, discussing how her type influences her marriage an…
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AI in Your Marriage: For Better or for Worse
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28:02Is artificial intelligence becoming the third party in your marriage? In this timely episode, we explore the growing trend of couples turning to AI for relationship advice, planning, and emotional processing. Based on survey data from real couples, Christa unpacks three major benefits AI brings to marriage—from vacation planning to communication to…
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Special: Author Kristen Strong (2-5 Pairing) on Friendship, Loneliness & the Courage to Try Again
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50:09In this special Memorial Day episode, Enneagram Type 2 Kristen Strong shares her powerful journey as a social Enneagram 2 giver and also military wife who spent two decades moving across the world, constantly rebuilding friendships and community. Author of "Desperate Woman Seeks Friends," Kristen offers vulnerable insights into the acute loneliness…
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Dr. Morgan Cutlip on Tackling the Invisible Burden of the Mental Load Among Couples
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48:09Have you ever felt overwhelmed in your relationships or struggled with the mental load? If yes, this episode is a must-listen! In this episode, Dr. Morgan Cutlip, an Enneagram 9 and author of the new book, A Better Share reveals how understanding her Enneagram type has shaped her approach to relationships, especially with her husband, who is a Type…
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To Wholly Love Someone: The Healthy Practices We Need to Love More Fully
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28:47What does it truly mean to love someone with your whole being? In this transformative episode, we explore the essential practices needed to move beyond surface-level connection into profound, soul-nourishing love. Drawing from both Enneagram wisdom and practical relationship insights, we unpack how your personality type influences your capacity for…
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Embracing Adventure & Partnership in Marriage w/Hillary McCaskey (8-9 Pairing)
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54:06Influencer and Coach (Enneagram & Coaching) Hillary McCaskey, 9w8 joins Christa to explore how her Enneagram type shapes her marriage to an 8. Together they discuss how Hillary's 972 Tritype influences her ability to support her Type 8 husband's dreams while finding her own voice—culminating in both a healthier and more attuned marriage as well as …
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Enneagram Wing Influence: Understanding Subtle Differences
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25:01Christa takes you on a journey through the subtle influences of Enneagram wings in marriage relationships. In this illuminating episode, she explores how our wing tendencies can sometimes take over our interactions with our spouse without us even realizing it. From the silent withdrawal of a 1w9 to the stubborn resistance of a 9w8, Christa breaks d…
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When Addiction Enters the Marriage: Jimmy & Irene Rollins (7-9) on Breaking Cycles & Finding Healing
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52:52In this powerful episode, former megachurch pastors Jimmy and Irene Rollins share their raw journey from a marriage that was "surviving, not thriving" to genuine transformation after addiction threatened everything they'd built. For fifteen years, the couple maintained a thriving public ministry while privately struggling—Irene battling alcohol add…
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A Mother's Day Special: When You Thought It Would Be Better Than This w/Jessica Turner, Author, 8
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27:05Just in time for Mother's Day, this special episode features Wall Street Journal bestselling author Jessica Turner sharing hard-earned wisdom about rebuilding when life veers dramatically off-script. Whether you didn't get to have kids, your marriage is different than what you wanted, or like Jessica, your marriage took a turn in a different direct…
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Underestimated: Mary Marantz on Embracing Fear and Moving Forward
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56:14This week we welcome the incredible Mary Marantz, an Enneagram 4 and author of the new book, Underestimated: The Surprisingly Simple Shift to Quit Playing Small, Name the Fear, and Move Forward Anyway. In this episode, we dive deep into the transformative power of understanding our Enneagram types and how they shape our narratives. Mary shares her …
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From Codependency to Self-Discovery: Thais Gibson on the Path of an Enneagram Two
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51:08In this episode of Typology, we dive deep into the world of the Enneagram with our special guest, Thais Gibson, an Enneagram Two with a Three wing. Thais is a counselor, best-selling author, and co-founder of the Personal Development School, bringing a wealth of knowledge and experience to our conversation. Join Ian Cron and co-host Anthony Skinner…
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Strength in Surrender: A Type Eight's Guide to Vulnerability and Connection
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14:51In this illuminating mini-episode for anyone who finds themselves in a reactive Enneagram Eight space, Christa unveils tools for finding and accessing the hidden vulnerability healthily beneath the Eight armor. Whether you're an Eight, have an Eight wing or arrow connection, or love someone with Eight energy, this episode offers crucial insights in…
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Beyond Stereotypes: Understanding The Higher-Desire Wife w/Author & Speaker J. Parker
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47:24In today's episode, we challenge the common assumption that men always want more sex than women in marriage. Join us as we speak with J. Parker, author of "The Higher-Desire Wife," about the estimated 25% of marriages where wives have a higher sex drive at various seasons of marriage. We explore multiple causes of mismatched desire beyond stereotyp…
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The Dance of Connection: How Emotional Regulation Transforms Your Marriage
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24:21In this stance episode, Christa helps you to explore how our emotional regulation patterns impact our closest relationships through the lens of stances. This episode dives into the three stress stances—moving against, moving away, and moving toward—and how understanding these unconscious reactions can transform your marriage. Whether you're caught …
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Underestimated: The Surprisingly Simple Shift to Quit Playing Small w/Mary Marantz, Type 4 (4-9 Pairing)
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46:14It's all been done. I can't start until it's perfect. What if the critics come? In this episode, Christa talks with Mary Marantz, Enneagram 4, about her journey from growing up in a trailer in rural West Virginia to becoming a Yale Law graduate, successful entrepreneur, and author, only to learn she was still underestimating herself. This empowerin…
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The Audacity to Be You: Embracing Your True Self, feat. Dr. Brad Reedy
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51:07In this powerful episode of Typology, I’m honored to sit down with Enneagram 8, Dr. Brad Reedy, co-founder and chief clinical officer of Finding You Therapy Programs, Together, we explore the profound impact of therapy and self-acceptance on the transformative journey of self-discovery and healing. Brad opens up about his journey as a therapist and…
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Why Great Relationships Still Get Stuck: Moving Around the Enneagram
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12:48Ever wonder why personal growth seems to follow predictable patterns of progress and plateau? In this illuminating episode, we dive into one of the Enneagram's most fascinating but rarely discussed aspects: moving around the whole Enneagram system. Learn how this powerful concept applies to everything from skill-building to relationship development…
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Engaging in Personal & Relationship Bible Study w/Philip Nation, VP & Publisher, Thomas Nelson , 4
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35:27In this illuminating episode of the Enneagram and Marriage Podcast, we welcome Philip Nation, Vice-President/Publisher of Thomas Nelson Bibles and acclaimed author (Enneagram 4) to explore the powerful intersection of faith, scripture study, and marital connection. Philip shares his expertise on making the Bible accessible in relationships, offerin…
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The Soul Beneath the Symptoms, feat. Michael J. Cusick
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39:40This week on Typology, I sat down with my dear friend, therapist and spiritual director, Michael Cusick for a raw, wise, and deeply compassionate conversation about the connection between attachments and our path to healing. Michael—founder of Restoring the Soul and a true guide for the journey inward—helps us unpack the idea that our symptoms (anx…
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Holy Lament: Creating Space with God in Holy Week
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10:53In this special mid-week mini episode, Christa explores the ancient practice of biblical lament as a pathway to deeper intimacy with God and our spouses. Discover why expressing honest sorrow and questions to God isn't just permitted but modeled throughout scripture—from the Psalms to Jesus himself on the cross. Learn how each Enneagram type bypass…
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Building a Thriving Marriage & Business with Brad and Sarah Johnson, 7-6
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1:01:41In this engaging episode, Brad and Sarah Johnson, Triad Partners, reveal how life as an entrepreneurial couple (Brad is the co-founder of Triad Partners) creates both unique challenges and extraordinary strengths in their marriage, family, and business. Brad and Sarah (types 7 and 6 pairing) share candidly about their journey and deep dive with us …
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An Enneagram Six's Journey to Open-Heartedness, feat. Jeff Chu
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41:49How do you cultivate open-heartedness? Tune in as the insightful Jeff Chu, author of the new memoir, Good Soil: The Education of an Accidental Farmhand and a self-identified Enneagram Six, shares what he learned on his journey from a successful career in journalism to the unexpected life of a farmhand at Princeton's Farminary. We explore the fascin…
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Holding Vigil: The Sacred Arts of Prayer and Presence in Marriage
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17:37In this heartfelt episode, discover the transformative power of "holding vigil" for your spouse through prayer and presence in a way that reallly costs, but also really gives, both to you and your spouse. Learn both general tips and how each Enneagram type uniquely supports their partner during difficult times and what challenges they face in stayi…
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When Both Partners Carry the Mental Load: A Better Share with Dr. Morgan Cutlip
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48:35Who can get in a sexy state of mind when they're dealing with the triple threat of emotional load, cognitive load, and the physical demands of partnership and parenting, too. Mental load inequity is now recognized as the leading source of relationship tension through research, but what can we do about that when not one but both partners feel equall…
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Smart, Not Loud: Strategies for Getting Noticed at Work with Jessica Chen
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36:33Today on Typology, we dig into the Enneagram with our special guest, Jessica Chen, an Enneagram 3 and author of the insightful book Smart, Not Loud: How to Get Noticed at Work for All the Right Reasons. Join us as we explore the unique challenges faced by quieter personality types in the workplace, particularly those identified as Enneagram 4s, 5s,…
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Beyond the Box: When You Don't Fit Just One Enneagram Type
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22:18When your personality seems to straddle multiple Enneagram types, it can feel confusing or even invalidating. In this illuminating episode, we explore what it means when you identify strongly with two or more Enneagram patterns, referencing insights from Dr. Dan Siegel's previous conversation on the show. Discover why this "multi-type resonance" is…
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Finding Grace in the Mess: Dana K. White on Home Management and Spiritual Freedom
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42:26Is a clean house a spiritual obligation? In this liberating conversation, Dana K. White, author of the brand new book, "Jesus Doesn't Care About Your Messy House," challenges the shame and spiritual baggage many attach to home management. This book is for you, if no matter how competent you feel in other parts of your life, you still feel overwhelm…
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How to Cultivate a Deep-Rooted Marriage, feat. Dr. Dan Allender and Dr. Steve Call
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46:58Join us for an enlightening episode of the Typology Podcast as we dive deep into the complexities of marriage through the lens of the Enneagram with our special guests, Dr. Dan Allender and Dr. Steve Call. In this episode, we explore insights from their book, The Deep-Rooted Marriage: Cultivating Intimacy, Healing, and Delight. Discover how the Enn…
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When Anxiety Takes the Wheel: Understanding Your Type's Relationship with Fear
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12:41How does your Enneagram type influence your experience of anxiety? In this insightful episode, we explore the unique ways each type encounters, processes, and responds to fear. Discover why Head types (5,6,7) intellectualize anxiety, Heart types (2,3,4) emotionalize it, and Body types (8,9,1) somaticize it—creating entirely different anxiety experi…
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Addiction in Relationships: How We All Heal Together w/Best-Selling Author Ian Cron, 4
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46:14In this compelling conversation, bestselling author Ian Cron discusses his new book "The Fix," revealing how addiction in its many forms affects us all. Ian moves beyond stereotypical views of addiction to show how everyone struggles with attachments that promise fulfillment but ultimately leave us empty. With wisdom and compassion, he explains how…
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How to Transform Shame into Empowerment through Storytelling, feat. ESPN reporter Lauren Sisler
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1:05:39Is she an Enneagram Two, the Helper, or an Enneagram Three, the Achiever? Find out in today's episode with Emmy award-winning sports broadcaster, ESPN sideline reporter, author, keynote speaker, and someone known for her sideline shimmy, Lauren Sisler. Through insightful typing questions, Ian guides Lauren on an exploration of her core motivations,…
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Building Internal Validation in Your Marriage: An E + M Mini
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11:55In this transformative and quick episode, we walk together through several powerful practices to develop genuine internal validation. If you constantly seek others' approval or question your decisions, this episode is for you! Learn practical techniques to strengthen your self-trust and break the cycle of external validation right here. YouTube the…
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Beyond Self-Pres, Social & Sexual: A Fresh Take on Instincts That Drives You Forward w/Joel Hubbard & Jim Zartman w/Joel Hubbard & Jim Zartman, Art of Growth
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1:05:13In this captivating episode, we're joined by Jim Zartman (Type 8) and Joel Hubbard (Type 7), creators of the groundbreaking Hunters, Farmers, and Teamers framework and book. This innovative lens reveals our survival instincts as well as helps us adapt in them, speaking of how our core drives shape everything from our leadership styles to our marria…
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Jason Wahler's Recovery Journey: Navigating Codependency and Self-Discovery
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55:32This week we welcome the incredible Jason Wahler, a passionate advocate for addiction education and recovery. You may recognize Jason from shows like Laguna Beach, The Hills, and Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew. His journey through addiction and recovery is both inspiring and enlightening. In this episode, we discuss Jason's Enneagram type, which he …
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Your 30 Min E + M Monthly Relationship Blueprint
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15:36Many couples avoid "relationship check-ins" because they feel awkward or turn into criticism sessions. This episode offers a completely different approach - a structured 30-minute blueprint that creates safety, deepens understanding, and builds practical solutions together that Christa shares both here and in this mini-episode. You'll learn: The re…
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The Space Between Us: Why Decentralizing Your Partner Creates Healthier Love
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18:11What happens when we make our partners the center of our emotional universe? In this insightful episode with Christa walking us through the concept of decentralization, we explore the delicate art of "decentralizing" your partner—a powerful practice that counterintuitively strengthens intimate connections. Through the lens of marriage theory, inclu…
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The One-to-One Seven: Unpacking the Unique Landscape of Enneagram 7s w/Justin Heap
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46:57In this episode of Typology, host Ian Cron welcomes Enneagram 7, Justin Heap, a creative consultant, certified Enneagram coach, and author. Together, they dive deep into the unique inner world of the Enneagram 7, particularly focusing on the one-to-one subtype, which often resembles the emotional depth of a four. Join Ian and Justin as they explore…
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Living a Life of Radical Generosity with Craig & Laura Cooper, 3-9
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56:58What happens when we open our hearts and homes to others? Craig and Laura Cooper join us to share their extraordinary journey of faith and generosity that inspired MercyMe's song and Walker Hayes' music video "Craig." The Coopers discuss how their Type 3w4 and Type 9 Enneagram dynamics shape their approach to hospitality, and how a simple act of gi…
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