The Camino Podcast is a program focused on pilgrimage. We talk about major pilgrimage routes, like Spain's Camino de Santiago, we share stories from the road, and we talk about more technical aspects of pilgrimage. Whether you're planning your first pilgrimage, processing your latest one, or just an armchair traveler, we hope you find this to be a good listen! (Soundtrack features "Walking in the Country" by David Mumford.) Follow Dave's walks and learn about his guidebooks here: https://dav ...
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2 Many Cooks combines the worlds of food and comedy in an entertaining podcast and live event series. Hosted by comedians and food enthusiasts; Rick Shaw, known for his comedic restaurant reviews on various platforms and who has shared stages with comedy legends like Tony Hinchcliffe, Joey Diaz, Doug Stanhope, Eddie Pepitone and Dave Attel. And seasoned comedian C.R. Parsons, known for appearances on ‘Tulsa King’ and ‘Reservation Dogs.’
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Episode 95 - Victoria Keynote: The Reconciliatory Potential of Pilgrimage
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46:25On Saturday, 8 February 2025, Dave spoke at the Spring Gathering of the Canadian Company of Pilgrims' Victoria Chapter, about the reconciliatory potential of pilgrimage, building around the three definitional forms of reconciliation: 1) To restore to friendship or harmony, 2) To cause to submit to or accept something unpleasant, and 3) To make cons…
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Episode 94 - El Cid: The Man, the Myth, and the Legacy
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50:40Dr. Nora Berend's newly-published El Cid: The Life and Afterlife of a Medieval Mercenary (tinyurl.com/elcidcampeador) offers an updated study of the (in)famous epic hero, more myth than man at this point, and his ongoing relevance to Spanish history and politics. In this episode, Dr. Berend discusses what we actually know about the man's life, his …
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Rick and CR "Like" and comment to find out more about the social media influencer Tarra Quinn. Known on social channels as HighItsTarra tells the boys how she went from eyelashes to eating in her car for complete strangers! There was cannabis involved, but it's not what you think. They also found out about her family trip to get tattoos, the origin…
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Chef Kevin Snell brings a bottle of hooch to Kitchen Studios and talks with the 2 Many Cooks boys about his journey from tech school stoner to tech school executive chef! He tells how setting fires in his back yard lead to a James Beard nomination in the year of covid and how covid lead to rearranging his priorites. Rick shares a story of Chef Snel…
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Episode 93 - The Camino del Norte, Part 4 - Discovering Cantabria
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1:05:17The Camino del Norte offers some of the most spectacular scenery of any pilgrimage, combining rugged coastal hills, sandy beaches, spectacular cities and small fishing villages. In this series, we will virtually walk the Norte together, bringing together experienced pilgrims and relevant experts in each episode. In this fourth part of the series, w…
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Episode 15 - Naan Stop Tyler Whitson All Day
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1:09:30Chef Tyler Whitson never landed a coveted line cook job at Garfield's, but he has cooked in some very impressive kitchens. He sets down with Rick and CR to spill the beans on how a marathon of "Unwrapped" set fire to his culinary career. His troubles with driving to work and staying awake at The Pioneer Woman's popular mercantile, and the joys of h…
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Episode 14 - Talkin' Bout Nate Christenson
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1:04:52After knowing Chef Nate Christenson for several years Rick and CR learn of his outlaw youth, how it lead him to chilly reception from Alaskan locals, and how he escaped the frigid North with only the "Theme From Shaft" to keep him company. Nate tells of the generosity he witnessed from Weird Al and paints a colorful portrait of his culinary career …
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Episode 92 - Two Pilgrimages Through Canada's Histories
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1:31:00Why not consider Canada for your next pilgrimage? In this episode, two pilgrimage leaders discuss how the country can be seen, and its histories more richly accessed, on paths bridging the past and present. Brad Aaron Modlin (www.bradaaronmodlin.com) shares insights from his semester abroad program in Quebec, following the Chemin des Outaouais (www…
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Episode 13 - Sheamus Feeley's Buenos Encharito from an Italian Restaurant
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1:06:50It's the Season 2 Premier, and who better to have on the show than Rick Shaw's lifelong best friend of like 6 months, Sheamus Feeley! The 2 Many Cooks guys explain that inside joke and find out Chef Feeley is just a humble kid from Arkansas that grew up to kick ass in the culinary world. They find out how he decided to open Noche, one the "New York…
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Episode 91 - The Camino del Norte, Part 3: The Bilbao Effect
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59:08The Camino del Norte offers some of the most spectacular scenery of any pilgrimage, combining rugged coastal hills, sandy beaches, spectacular cities and small fishing villages. In this series, we will virtually walk the Norte together, bringing together experienced pilgrims and relevant experts in each episode. In this third part of the series, we…
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Episode 90 - A Most Interesting Life: Lindsay Teychenné's Year on the Caminos
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1:00:09Lindsay Teychenné wasn't satisfied with his life, so he made a dramatic change. He left his home in Australia, traveled to Europe, and forged a new home on the Camino, spending the last year walking all across Spain and France. In this episode, he offers insights into the many different Caminos and Chemins he has now traversed, unpacks some of the …
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Episode 89 - The Camino del Norte, Part 2: The Heart of the Basque Country
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1:11:07The Camino del Norte offers some of the most spectacular scenery of any pilgrimage, combining rugged coastal hills, sandy beaches, spectacular cities and small fishing villages. In this series, we will virtually walk the Norte together, bringing together experienced pilgrims and relevant experts in each episode. In this second episode, Susan Alcorn…
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Episode 88 - Pilgrims Until We Die: Ian Reader, Shikoku, and Japanese Pilgrimage
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1:12:28For Camino veterans who are considering branching out, not just beyond Spain but beyond Europe entirely, Japan has emerged as the easy entry-point. The Kumano Kodo is super accessible, thanks to Kumano Travel and its compact route length. If you've got more time, though--probably in the six-week range--Shikoku is the most prominent pilgrimage route…
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Episode 12 - The Many Live of Lacee Rains
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1:15:54It's the season finale! Rick and CR wrap things up by talking to the charitable and funny Lacee Rains. She outlines an impressive resume that includes attempted nunnery, attempted sex therapist, certified Dick's Sporting Goods credit card salesperson of the year; twice, and finally comedian. She tells the guys the origin story of her alter ego and …
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Episode 87 - Victoria Preston on Why We Are Pilgrims
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48:25When Victoria Preston reached a transitional point in her life, she decided to go on a pilgrimage. And then she paused and wondered: what was behind that impulse to go on pilgrimage? That set in motion a process that culminated in We Are Pilgrims: Journeys in Search of Ourselves, which explores the central importance of pilgrimage to humans across …
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In honor of this past Veteran's Day the boys revisit Episode 2 with Marine Corp. Veteran and notorious pit master Adam Green from Mac's BBQ. Green a Golden Spatula Winner from 2 Many Cooks Live! A fun trip down memory lane with one of the best dude's around! Enjoy this recast of 2 Many Cooks!By Driller City
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Episode 86 - The Camino del Norte, Part 1: The Old Rocks and the Sea
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1:37:22The Camino del Norte offers some of the most spectacular scenery of any pilgrimage, combining rugged coastal hills, sandy beaches, spectacular cities and small fishing villages. In this series, we will virtually walk the Norte together, bringing together experienced pilgrims and relevant experts in each episode. In this first episode, Dennis Garnhu…
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Episode 85 - Building a Better Pilgrimage Guidebook
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55:17What does a pilgrim need from a guidebook in 2024? Does a pilgrim even need a guidebook? Tim Mathis (www.timmathiswrites.com) set out to answer those questions and the outcome was a different kind of guidebook, The Camino for the Rest of Us: A Comprehensive Guide to a Life-Changing Journey on the World's Most Approachable Pilgrimage. In this discus…
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Episode 11 - 2 Many Cooks Live Post Game Show
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29:40CR and Rick discuss the sold out 2 Many Cooks Live Event at Cain's Ballroom. Thank you to all those involved and all that attended!By Driller City
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Episode 84 - To Go By Asking: Maryjane Dunn's Life on the Camino
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1:05:29The Camino magic struck Maryjane Dunn early in life, when she found herself in David Gitlitz's classroom, the foremost American scholar on the Camino de Santiago. She traveled with him on the Camino Francés as part of a student group in 1979, setting in motion a life's work that resulted in her being awarded the 2024 Aymeric Picaud International Pr…
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Episode 10 - It's Pronounced Bad Mitch!
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1:04:14After debating the pronunciation of their guest's last name Rick and CR get the story and DNA make up of "Bad" Mitch Gilliam from the US power metal band Blind Oath. He talks about growing up in Coweta with field trips to the ice cream plant and turning his back on youth sports in favor of music. He gives the guys his impressive resume; which inclu…
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Episode 9 - I Can Get Fuller On Shrimp!
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1:08:52Bass player, bartender, human banana, and general man of mischief, Jacob Fuller from Blind Oath rolls into Kitchen Sink Studios. He regales Rick and CR of his humble beginnings as a Sallisaw Black Diamond and how following his heart brought him to Tulsa. We find out the many ways he has celebrated his birthday, and how being talked into dropping ou…
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Episode 8 - Kels Yeah I Was a Sh*t A**!
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1:31:49Comedian, show promoter, fashion designer, the one and only Lady Landback aka Kels Cooper join Rick and CR in Kitchen Studios. Kels talks Blue Whale Comedy Festival, meeting The Fonz and Marlee Matlin, being one of the boys, and her parents origin story. She also throws a chapstick lesbian under the bus about taco salad. All this and more on the 8t…
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Episode 7 - It’s Brent, not Ronnie James!
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1:24:11Fresh off his Blue Whale Comedy Festival Cain's Ballroom main stage debut Brent Deo joins CR & Rick for an equally impressive debut on the mics at Kitchen Sink Studios. The guys talk comedy shop and other chuckle engineering aspects. They break big, big news about "Crunchies" after finding out Brent is previously employed by none other than the not…
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After five episodes CR & Rick finally bring in a therapist! This one just happens to be a food critic and author of the recently published book "A Feast for the Senses." Jared Gleaton sits on the couch, okay, futon of Kitchen Sink Studios for a talk. The fellows unpack some of their many issues including the goos and seeds of life. They run down th…
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Episode 5 - Chris West & 45 Gallons of Red Beans
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1:13:11Don't worry! He didn't eat' em! Chris West with Lassalle's French Market & Farm, OklaNola Pepper Co., & the indigenous sludge metal band Medicine Horse made the trek to Kitchen Sink Studios after a long day of farmin' and a cookin'. Chris talks to CR & Rick about making Oklahoma his new home after Hurricane Katrina and the natural disasters awaitin…
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Finally, a female joins the boys in Kitchen Sink Studios. Chef Nico Williams from Burning Cedar Sovereign Wellness and the sludge metal band Medicine Horse discusses her journey through the culinary world, music, film, and television. Rick fanboy's out by reminding her of her greatest dishes and CR attempts a "non racist" question. Also we get a ju…
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Episode 3 - Chuck and Cheese and Cannibal Sandwiches
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1:18:15A Tulsa radio legend, Chuck Stikl aka Chuck The Sports Guy from 104.5 The Edge, joins the guys in Kitchen Sink Studios. They discuss his 30 plus years in the rado business, how he lived near Jeffrey Dahmer, and ironically his home state's wild ass tradition of Cannibal Sandwiches. Talk of Edgefests past, eggs, and which Mexican food is the buenoest…
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Recorded over Memorial Day Weekend in Kitchen Sink Studios, CR and Rick hang out with Marine Corp. Veteran and Mac's BBQ owner Adam Green! Hear how Adam escaped becoming a pilot to do bootleg catering and eventually be given his own day in the town of Skiatook. Find out where Green eats lunch every Friday and details on the documentary "Make Peace …
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Rick and CR welcome social media mad man Steve Pisonero to Kitchen Sink Studios. They talk Burger charts, Long John Silver Crunchies and of course Pineapple on Pizza! All that and more, on this first episode of 2 Many Cooks!By Driller City
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By design, the Camino of the present is a remarkably inclusive pilgrimage. All are welcome. Encouraged even. For many, this is one of its most cherished qualities. Inclusion does, however, bring certain complications. While cultural appropriation is a phenomenon that is much discussed, religious appropriation receives far less consideration, and Li…
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Episode 82 - The Camino Primitivo, Part 4: From Lugo to the Francés
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1:33:50Well before the Camino Francés was considered safe to walk, there was the Camino Primitivo, linking Oviedo--the center of a small, Christian enclave that was holding out in the northwest corner of the Iberian peninsula--with Santiago de Compostela and the recently rediscovered relics of St. James. In this four-part series, we will virtually walk th…
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Episode 81 - The Camino Primitivo, Part 3: What Shines Atop Alto del Acebo?
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1:06:53Well before the Camino Francés was considered safe to walk, there was the Camino Primitivo, linking Oviedo--the center of a small, Christian enclave that was holding out in the northwest corner of the Iberian peninsula--with Santiago de Compostela and the recently rediscovered relics of St. James. In this four-part series, we will virtually walk th…
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Episode 80 - Keynote from the 2024 American Pilgrims Annual Gathering of Pilgrims
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52:20What makes the Camino special? We are often advised today to embrace the fact that it’s “your Camino,” to do it “your” way. While there is certainly some legitimacy to that perspective, it also risks diminishing some of the most meaningful and potent qualities of the experience, qualities that are embedded in the communal nature of pilgrimage. By t…
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Episode 79 - The Camino Primitivo, Part 2: Asturias, Never Defeated!
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1:25:01Well before the Camino Francés was considered safe to walk, there was the Camino Primitivo, linking Oviedo--the center of a small, Christian enclave that was holding out in the northwest corner of the Iberian peninsula--with Santiago de Compostela and the recently rediscovered relics of St. James. In this four-part series, we will virtually walk th…
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Episode 78 - The Camino Primitivo, Part 1: Walking the First Camino
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1:30:44Well before the Camino Francés was considered safe to walk, there was the Camino Primitivo, linking Oviedo--the center of a small, Christian enclave that was holding out in the northwest corner of the Iberian peninsula--with Santiago de Compostela and the recently rediscovered relics of St. James. In this four-part series, we will virtually walk th…
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If you have walked the Camino, you've encountered donkeys. Sometimes they're looming on a field's far end, watching the world go by, a presence immediately recognizable even from a hundred meters. Sometimes, they're pressed against the barbed wire fence, curious and eager for engagement. And very, very occasionally, you'll see a pilgrim walking wit…
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Episode 76 - Starting the Camino in England, Florida, and Texas
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1:23:20Over the last few years, there has been an exciting development, wherein the Santiago archdiocese has collaborated with other routes outside of Spain to offer official "alternative" starting points for the Camino de Santiago, allowing pilgrims to begin their journey closer to home, earn some kilometers towards the 100km requirement, and then pick u…
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Episode 75 - The Year in Camino 2023
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1:01:41If you want to know what's happening on the Camino, ask a group or forum moderator. Those tireless, kind-hearted shepherds of Camino discourse perform one of the most thankless tasks of the online world, helping to ensure that new pilgrims can hit the Camino with confidence, and that experienced pilgrims can have a place to connect with a shared co…
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Episode 74 - Following the Old Way to Canterbury
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1:03:20Beyond Jerusalem, Rome, and Santiago de Compostela, Canterbury stands out as perhaps the most significant pilgrimage destination for Christians in the Middle Ages. While Chaucer famously commemorated the route from London in the Canterbury Tales, pilgrims of course traveled from their homes, following a network of different trails. For centuries, o…
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Episode 73 - Our Body Is a Healing Machine
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1:07:3279 rounds of chemotherapy. 4 radical surgeries. 60% of her liver, ten inches of her colon, 2 inches of her stomach, her right lung, and part of her throat--all gone. And yet, however one measures it, Edie Littlefield Sundby (www.themissionwalker.com), author of The Mission Walker, is a living miracle. After being diagnosed with stage 4 cancer in 20…
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Episode 72 - The Via Podiensis, Part 10: Pushing on to Saint-Jean
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1:38:44Let's walk the Via Podiensis together! Whereas many of the pilgrim interviews on the podcast take a thematic approach, focusing on a few big picture issues, this series of episodes will dig more into the specifics of walking. In this tenth and final episode in the series, we finally make it to Saint-Jean-Pied-de-Port, thanks to the combined wisdom …
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Episode 71 - The Via Podiensis, Part 9: Roman Ruins, If You Want To
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58:41Let's walk the Via Podiensis together! Whereas many of the pilgrim interviews on the podcast take a thematic approach, focusing on a few big picture issues, this series of episodes will dig more into the specifics of walking. In this ninth episode in the series, the Pyrenees are finally breaking the horizon as we continue southward from Condom to A…
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Episode 70 - The Via Podiensis, Part 8: Duck!
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1:13:03Let's walk the Via Podiensis together! Whereas many of the pilgrim interviews on the podcast take a thematic approach, focusing on a few big picture issues, this series of episodes will dig more into the specifics of walking. In this eighth episode in the series, we carry on southward from Moissac with pilgrims Dennis and Laurie Brooke of Tacoma, W…
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Episode 69 - The Via Podiensis, Part 7: Kill Them All, Let the Historians Sort It Out
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1:24:38Let's walk the Via Podiensis together! Whereas many of the pilgrim interviews on the podcast take a thematic approach, focusing on a few big picture issues, this series of episodes will dig more into the specifics of walking. In this seventh episode in the series, we finally leave Cahors in the rearview mirror and cross the halfway point en route f…
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Episode 68 - The Via Podiensis, Part 6: Superlative Overload in the Célé Valley
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1:28:18Let's walk the Via Podiensis together! Whereas many of the pilgrim interviews on the podcast take a thematic approach, focusing on a few big picture issues, this series of episodes will dig more into the specifics of walking. In this sixth episode in the series, we make our third and final walk between Figeac and Cahors, this time following the GR6…
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Episode 67 - Three Decades of Pilgrim Stories
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1:01:05Dr. Nancy Louise Frey was looking for a topic for her doctoral research when she stumbled into Santiago de Compostela around Saint James Day and discovered a very different sort of pilgrimage than she had previously considered. This set in motion a complicated and extensive process of field work, and ultimately culminated in one of the essential Ca…
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Episode 66 - The Via Podiensis, Part 5 - Rocamadour
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1:34:24Let's walk the Via Podiensis together! Whereas many of the pilgrim interviews on the podcast take a thematic approach, focusing on a few big picture issues, this series of episodes will dig more into the specifics of walking. In this fifth episode in the series, we find ourselves back in Figeac, for the second of three route options leading pilgrim…
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Episode 65 - The Via Podiensis, Part 4: The Price of Wine Is Eternal Vigilance
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1:17:22Let's re-walk the Via Podiensis together! Whereas many of the pilgrim interviews on the podcast take a thematic approach, focusing on a few big picture issues, this series of episodes will dig more into the specifics of walking. In this fourth episode in the series, we arrive at the major decision that pilgrims face on the Via Podiensis: which rout…
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Episode 64 - A Way of Traveling Without Moving
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48:32Imagine that it is your dream to run an albergue, and then that opportunity comes knocking in the middle of COVID. Do you make the leap? And then imagine that you dive in headfirst, alive with all of the dreams and possibilities of what will be. Even as the pandemic ebbs, though, your reopening is first delayed by family obligations, and then thwar…
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