Welcome to Living Well (or Trying To), I’m your host Janet—wellness enthusiast, yoga pose outfit-checker, and someone who’s maybe 73% thriving at any given moment. On this show, we talk real-life wellness: the messy, the mindful, and everything in between. This is a place where we love our veggies and meditation, but we also love a good night out dancing, pizza and ramen, and the occasional tequila shot…or 3. And we know that 5am mornings and 20-step routines are for some people, but not I - ...
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The Insight by Oaktree Capital lets you know what Oaktree leaders think are the most important things for investors to focus on today. The Insight provides you with audio versions of many popular Oaktree publications so that you can learn about trends impacting a wide variety of asset classes. And it features conversations with many of Oaktree’s leading experts, including Howard Marks, about relative value, investment theory, and the market environment. The Insight goes beyond today’s market ...
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To celebrate the 35th anniversary of his memos, Howard Marks recently held a fireside chat for Oaktree employees. Listen to an excerpt from the conversation to hear Howard discuss why he started writing and why he’s kept at it, and learn more about the enduring investment truths encapsulated by his memos.…
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In the latest episode of The Insight: Conversations, Oaktree experts assess the bifurcation in equity and credit markets today, examine dislocation in the healthcare sector, and take a closer look at the recent resurgence of activity within commercial real estate. Steve Tesoriere (Co-Portfolio Manager, Value Opportunities), Olivia Guthorn (Managing…
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Episode 54: Brain Fog, Mood Swings & More: Recognizing Perimenopause Symptoms with Dr. Mariza Snyder
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40:03In this second half of my conversation with Dr. Mariza Snyder, we dive deeper into the realities of perimenopause and what it means to truly take ownership of your health. From understanding why so many doctors are still under-trained in menopause care, to learning how to track your cycle and symptoms for better self-advocacy, Dr. Snyder lays out p…
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Episode 53: Perimenopause Decoded with Dr. Mariza Snyder
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32:58Perimenopause is one of the most misunderstood—and often overlooked—stages in a woman’s life. In this conversation, I sit down with Dr. Mariza Snyder, a functional medicine practitioner and women’s hormone expert who has spent over 17 years helping women navigate hormonal changes with science-backed strategies. We break down what perimenopause actu…
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In the latest episode, Armen Panossian (Co-CEO and Head of Performing Credit) and David Rosenberg (Head of Liquid Performing Credit) assess today’s credit markets, including where pockets of relative value may be found, how a global approach can benefit investors, and why public and private credit markets are converging.…
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Episode 52: Cooking as Self-Care: Routines, Trends & Seasonal Tips
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30:38In this second part of my conversation with Kari from Food Friends, we dive deeper into seasonal cooking and everyday meal rhythms. We talk about easy summer hosting ideas, smart farmers market shopping tips, freezer-friendly staples, and what it means to create a “food flow” that fits real life—whether you’re single, partnered, or cooking for a fa…
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Episode 51: Easy Summer Cooking and Hosting Advice with Chef Kari
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33:35I sit down with chef, writer, and podcaster Kari from Food Friends to talk about the art of seasonal home cooking and hosting with ease. Kari shares how she went from cooking Midwest basics to becoming a personal chef in LA for families, producers, and even Barbara Streisand. We get into favorite summer recipes, simple farmer’s market ideas, tips f…
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Episode 50: 3-Day Solo Wellness Retreat - What I Did, Loved & Would Do Differently
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42:45In this episode I talk about why taking a real break—from work, home life, or both—isn’t just a luxury but a wellness essential. From the science-backed benefits of vacationing to the small messy moments we all have (like laundry mishaps), I open up about my own solo mini-retreat experience at a wellness resort near LA. From sound baths and Vinyasa…
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In the latest episode of The Insight: Conversations, Oaktree experts examine the recent volatility in the credit markets, discuss shifting perceptions of European credit, and take a closer look at asset-backed finance. Justin Quaglia (Managing Director, Credit Trading), Madelaine Jones (Portfolio Manager, European High Yield Bonds and Senior Loans)…
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Episode 49: Soft Skills, Strong Impact: Building wildwonder with Rosa Li
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29:47In this continuation of my conversation with Rosa Li, founder of gut health tonic brand wildwonder, we get even more personal. She shares how working 100-hour weeks in finance shaped her approach to boundaries, why she believes vulnerability is her greatest asset as a leader, and how she manages energy—not just time—to avoid burnout. Has she ever c…
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Episode 48: Gut Instincts & Grit: Building wildwonder with Rosa Li
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33:40I sit down with Rosa Li, founder and CEO of Wild Wonder, the world’s first sparkling beverage brand to combine both prebiotics and probiotics for gut health—blending ancient Chinese herbal wisdom with modern science. Rosa shares how her grandmother’s traditional tonic recipes shaped her approach to wellness and inspired the brand’s roots, and how a…
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Episode 47: Hot Tea, Heavy Vibes, & Nervous System Tools for a World on Fire
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29:21This week on Living Well (or Trying To), I bring you a solo episode filled with real talk and regulation tools for when the world feels heavy. From the emotional toll of recent events in LA to the everyday overwhelm of being human, I share what’s been actually helping me calm my nervous system—and what hasn’t (sorry, Rumble Boxing and that miso egg…
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Episode 46: Balancing Logic and Fear in Career & Love Transitions
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37:14We explore the powerful symbolism behind your birth chart and what it reveals about navigating fear, logic, and purpose—especially during times of major life transitions. This episode explores the tension between structure and freedom, creativity and stability, and the unique contradictions that make up you. We talk about how to tell the difference…
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Episode 45: Witchy Wisdom with Celebrity Astrologer Aliza Kelly
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33:20Astrology is everywhere these days—from dating profiles to wellness apps—but what is it really, and why are so many of us drawn to it? In this episode, I’m joined by Aliza Kelly, celebrity astrologer, author, and cosmic consultant, to break it all down in a grounded and accessible way. We talk about the roots of astrology, how it’s evolved in pop c…
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Happy Tuesday! Small Announcement & Sending You Good Vibes
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4:04Hello Living Wellers :p This week's release is a short one. I share a little announcement that instead of my original plan to release every other week during the summer, I'm going to aim to release weekly! That means that this week I am taking a little break from publishing in order to ramp up for the coming weeks. In the meantime, you can check ou…
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Episode 44: Tanning Your Taint & Other Wellness WTFs
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32:11In this episode of Living Well (or Trying To) with Janet, we're diving headfirst into the bizarre, bold, and sometimes straight-up bonkers side of wellness. From tanning your perineum to sipping untreated spring water (a.k.a. raw water), the wellness world has taken some wild turns. I’ll break down the most eyebrow-raising trends—like facial cryoth…
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In the latest episode, we assess the state of the public and private credit markets, looking at the current balance of supply and demand and considering the risks and opportunities for investors. Join Wayne Dahl (Co-Portfolio Manager, Global Credit) and Suzana Perić (Managing Director, Sourcing & Origination) as they discuss topics from the recentl…
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Episode 43: 5 Dating Archetypes: Reimagining Modern Dating with Yue Xu
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39:19Let’s be real—modern dating can feel like a chaotic mess of apps, mixed signals, and awkward coffee chats. In this episode, I sit down with dating coach and podcast host Yue Xu (Dateable podcast) to unpack how building a friendship first might be the most underrated—and powerful—strategy in love. We talk about why so many of us perform on dates, ho…
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Episode 42: The 30-Day Relationship Incubator: Reimagining Modern Dating with Yue Xu
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37:03Dating in 2025? Whew. It’s a whole thing. From app fatigue to ghosting to unsolicited advice from well-meaning friends—how do you actually date well these days, especially if you're emotionally exhausted but still believe in love? This week on Living Well (or Trying To), I sit down with Yue Xu, LA-based dating expert and co-host of the Dateable pod…
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Episode 41: A Soft Reentry - Catching Up, Resting, and Reimagining the Show
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31:46After a long-ish pause, I’m back—still living well (or trying to). In this solo episode, I reflect on how life has been after the AsianBossGirl podcast, what rest has looked like lately (spoiler: not just bed-rotting, but also some messy growth), and how I’m redefining wellness for this next chapter. I talk about the challenges of staying creative …
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In celebration of Oaktree’s 30th anniversary on April 10, 2025, cofounders Howard Marks (Co-Chairman), Bruce Karsh (Co-Chairman and Chief Investment Officer), and Sheldon Stone (Principal and Co-Portfolio Manager, High Yield Bonds) held a fireside chat for employees where they shared stories about Oaktree’s origins and the firm’s journey over the l…
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Living Well (or Trying To) with Janet - Podcast Relaunch
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2:40Living Well (or trying to) with Janet which will be relaunching in May! A couple of new things, it will now be on video 😲 tempered expectations though, I’m a 1 WOman team now. And will continue to be a combo of solo and guest conversations - I share more in the 1st episode dropping on May 6 - so be sure to head to Living Well (or trying to) with Ja…
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What do elevated interest rates mean for private equity? Why is demand for junior capital solutions growing? What is the impact of the current supply/demand imbalance in asset-backed finance? In the latest episode of The Insight: Conversations, Matt Wilson (Co-Portfolio Manager, Special Situations), Christina Lee (Co-Portfolio Manager, U.S. Private…
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Navigating LMEs with Armen Panossian, Ronnie Kaplan, and Ross Rosenfelt
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36:49Why have liability management exercises (LMEs) soared in prominence? What are the risks and opportunities associated with these transactions? And what factors determine successful navigation of the LME wave? Join Armen Panossian (Co-CEO and Head of Performing Credit), Ronnie Kaplan (Portfolio Manager, U.S. Senior Loans), and Ross Rosenfelt (Managin…
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Episode 40: Do I have a Hormone Imbalance? Hormone & Gut Health with Dr. Paria Vaziri
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42:15How do you know if you have a hormone imbalance? What's the one supplement that will likely noticeably improve your mood? Does intermittent fasting affect my hormones? Join me for a conversation with Dr. Paria Vaziri, a licensed naturopathic doctor who specializes in hormonal health and gut health and came to naturopathic medicine from a personal h…
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Conversations: Recalibration with Danielle Poli, Julio Herrera, Mark Jacobs, and Todd Molz
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35:20Why have Treasury yields remained higher for longer and what does this mean for credit investors? What are the potential impacts of the historic stimulus recently announced in China? And what is the current outlook for income-generating real estate? In the latest episode of The Insight: Conversations, Danielle Poli (Assistant Portfolio Manager, Glo…
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Episode 39: How to Heal from Back-to-Back Breakups
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42:42I recently went through a breakup, again. Heartbreak is never easy, and when you're dating with the intention to find your life partner while trying to beat a biological clock, it involves a new level of hurt, grief, and sense of urgency to move on. How do we know when we've healed? How do we approach asking for support from friends and family? How…
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The Roundup: Top Takeaways from Oaktree’s Quarterly Letters – December 2024 Edition
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15:39Amid a strong U.S. economy and potentially inflationary policies from the incoming administration, yields may remain higher for longer. High-income assets will likely benefit, but investors should avoid complacency, particularly given the unpredictability of macroeconomic factors. In the current installment of The Roundup, Oaktree experts examine t…
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Episode 38: Winter Skin, Hair, and Nail Care with Dr. Joyce Park, Dermatologist of @TeamwithMD
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55:39How can I keep my skin barrier healthy during cold months? Should I wear sunscreen even when I don’t get sun exposure? What do I do about frizzy hair - thoughts on gummies and supplements? I’ve invited Dr. Joyce Park, otherwise known as Tea with MD (@teawithmd) to answer these questions and more. She is a board-certified dermatologist based in Wash…
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Conversations: The Evolution of Asset-Backed Finance with Armen Panossian, Brendan Beer, and Jennifer Marques
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34:34In the latest episode of The Insight: Conversations, Armen Panossian (Co-CEO and Head of Performing Credit), Brendan Beer (Co-Portfolio Manager, Structured Credit and Asset-Backed Finance) and Jennifer Marques (Head of Strategy and Structuring, Asset-Backed Finance) discuss topics from the recently published Performing Credit Quarterly 3Q2024: Who …
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Episode 37: Real Life Connections over Digital Noise with Palak Dave
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47:01One of the biggest challengers to living in the present moment are digital distractions. The advancement of consumer technology has resulted in a lot of habits and behaviors that are detrimental to our health - negative effects on our brains, our ability to focus, our ideas about ourselves, and the quality of our social skills and relationships whi…
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Performing Credit Quarterly 3Q2024: Who Are the Lenders Now?
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43:46In the latest Performing Credit Quarterly, Armen Panossian (Co-CEO and Head of Performing Credit) and Danielle Poli (Assistant Portfolio Manager, Global Credit) explore the next frontier of private credit: asset-backed finance. They discuss how major regulatory changes are causing traditional lenders to retrench from the space, leaving a significan…
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Birthdays are an interesting time to reflect and evaluate, and honestly, it’s been one of the harder years of my life. It was the perfect storm - a cataclysm of many things being upheaved, in transition, unsettled, or in flux. Moreover, I turned 39 this year. It’s the year before I enter a new decade - pretty much midlife - and when we are at this …
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Conversations: Looking Beyond the Headlines with Robert O’Leary, Steve Tesoriere, Kenya Williams, and Nicole Adrien
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38:45Where are we currently in the credit cycle? Why might issuers be delaying their day of reckoning? And how are investors using demographic shifts to find new opportunities in the real estate market? In the latest episode of The Insight: Conversations, Robert O’Leary (co-CEO), Steve Tesoriere (Co-Portfolio Manager, Value Opportunities), Kenya William…
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The Roundup: Top Takeaways from Oaktree’s Quarterly Letters – September 2024 Edition
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16:02The Federal Reserve’s highly telegraphed interest rate cut in September has created a new market dynamic: interest rates are set to moderate, but perhaps not enough to help many companies still facing extraordinary debt burdens. In the current installment of The Roundup, Oaktree experts, including co-CEO Robert O’Leary, explore various topics relat…
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Episode 35: Botox for Teeth Grinding? Oral Health Best Practices with @joycethedentist
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52:58Did you know that botox can be a treatment for teeth grinding? Or that your oral health needs may change during pregnancy? Ever heard of minimally invasive veneers? Curious about teeth whitening best practices? I chat with @joycethedentist about all of this and more. Dr. Joyce Kahng is a cosmetic & restorative dentist and the owner of Orange + Magn…
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Conversations: The Changing Face of Private Credit at Oaktree Conference 2024
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39:37In this special edition of The Insight: Conversations, we’re airing an excerpt from the private credit panel held at Oaktree’s recent biannual client conference in London on May 15, 2024. Key members of Oaktree’s private credit platform discuss how the asset class has evolved in recent years and where it may be heading next. They explore the dramat…
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Episode 34: How to Transform Your Life with Charles Chen of 888 Process
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46:24If you've ever felt that you needed to turn your life around, Charles Chen is someone you must know about. He is a yoga teacher, holistic chef, and the creator of 888 Process - a wellness community and collective that promotes transformation as a collective experience. He shares his message about the transformative power of holistic health and well…
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From nutrition and morning rituals to beauty and fashion, I share my current summer wellness practices. Let me know which of these practices you also do, are interested in trying, or other wellness practices you're currently into! Become an ABG Bestie to get new audio episodes ad-free, monthly “Dear ABG” AMA sessions, discounts on merch, and shout-…
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Conversations: Dissecting the Dual Economy with Armen Panossian and Wayne Dahl
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36:06The disparity between the haves and the have-nots has widened meaningfully in the U.S. economy over the last year. As a result, healthy aggregate macroeconomic indicators have often obscured the weakness building among pockets of the population. In the latest episode of The Insight: Conversations, Armen Panossian (Co-CEO and Head of Performing Cred…
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Performing Credit Quarterly 2Q2024: The Dual Economy
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41:37In the latest Performing Credit Quarterly, Armen Panossian (Co-CEO and Head of Performing Credit) and Danielle Poli (Assistant Portfolio Manager, Global Credit) discuss how conflicting trends in the bifurcated U.S. economy are sending mixed signals and creating challenges for both central bankers and investors. They discuss the potential implicatio…
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I’ve spoken often and at length about my love for yoga. In this episode I talk about how I got into yoga, why I love it so much, details about my current practice, and tips for anyone who wants to get into yoga (especially in the LA area). If you enjoyed this episode, leave your favorite yoga pose in the comments! Become an ABG Bestie to get new au…
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Episode 31: Midlife Non-Malaise with Mimi of @heymiddleage
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1:05:04Middle age is usually defined as age 40-60. Some say it begins as early as our mid-30s. I am at the beginning of that period - this year I turn 39 and I’m on the precipice of my 4th decade. As I contend with midlife and all it means in relation to my health, my relationships, and my purpose in life - I’ve been referencing how others have navigated …
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Conversations: Oaktree Conference 2024 Edition
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39:14In a special edition of The Insight: Conversations, you’ll hear excerpts from multiple sessions held during Oaktree’s recent biannual client conference. Oaktree co-chairman Howard Marks does a deep dive into his sea change thesis, members of Oaktree’s Global Credit team examine the most significant trends impacting the high yield bond and leveraged…
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The Roundup: Top Takeaways from Oaktree Conference 2024
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19:44Oaktree recently held its biennial client conference featuring presentations from co-chairman Howard Marks, co-CEOs Robert O’Leary and Armen Panossian, and many other key Oaktree thought leaders. In a special edition of The Roundup, we’ve highlighted various topics discussed at Oaktree Conference 2024, including the next frontier of private credit,…
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Episode 30: Am I a Highly Sensitive Person?
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28:22I’ve been feeling really sensitive lately and got curious about this quality. I went down a rabbit hole of research, and it turns out that there is such a thing as highly sensitive people, or HSPs. In this episode, I talk about examples of sensitivity, explore a framework from psychologist Elaine Aron, and share ways I manage sensitivity. And yes, …
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Episode 29: Food Therapy and Nutrition with Chinese Medicine Food Therapist, Zoey Gong RD
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43:25I am a big believer that food is medicine. Growing up in a Chinese household, my mother often told me (and still tells me) to eat certain foods based on Eastern philosophies of health. Once I went to college, I was more exposed to Western ways of thinking about healthy eating, which sometimes conflicted with what I was taught growing up. Through th…
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Conversations: Volatility Ahead? Featuring Howard Marks, Armen Panossian, and David Rosenberg
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31:12Where are we in the market cycle? Why is it healthy to be uncertain? And what does it mean to actually “be opportunistic”? In the latest episode of The Insight: Conversations, Howard Marks (Co-Chairman), Armen Panossian (Co-CEO), and David Rosenberg (Head of Liquid Performing Credit) discuss these and other topics from the recently published Perfor…
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Episode 28: Purposeful Living with Essentialist, Sung Yoo
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51:39I really love minimal living. Whether it’s from moving around and traveling a lot in my adult years sampling life in different cities, a desire to leave less of a negative footprint on the planet, a real resonance with the Marie Condo mindset, or a combination of all of the above - the less stuff, the better, and the more minimal and efficient the …
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