Best Leigh And Lori Podcasts (2025)

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The Hidden Emotional Roots of Chronic Pain: Neuro-Affective Touch with Liz Wong 1:11:57

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Struggling with chronic pain that won’t shift? In this episode, Leigh speaks with Liz Wong, whose work in Neuro-Affective Touch reveals how pain can be a communication tool from the body — and why healing often requires more than stretching, strengthening, or managing symptoms. Liz shares how touch, presence, and relational safety can help release …

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Making It Up with Aime Austin, author of the Casey Cort series 54:38

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“The muse days and the slog days look the same on the page, but they feel completely different when you’re writing them.” —Aime Austin Aime Austin is the author of the Casey Cort and Nicole Long legal thriller series, weaving sharp social commentary into gripping crime fiction. Born in Brooklyn, Aime graduated from Smith College and Cornell Law Sch…

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The Fearless Fela Kuti, with Jad Abumrad 1:56:37

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Writer, composer, and Peabody Award-winning podcaster Jad Abumrad joins Kirk to talk about Fela Kuti: Fear No Man, his new 12-part series on the life, music, and legacy of Afrobeat superstar Fela Kuti. DISCUSSED/REFERENCED: “Miryea’s Death” by Jack Nitzche from Revenge, 1990 “Prologue” by Alexandre Desplat from Birth, 2004 Excerpt from Port(al), mu…

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Healing Chronic Pain with Hypnotherapy – How Rewiring the Mind Can Ease Pain Naturally 54:26

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After months of debilitating migraines and post-concussion syndrome, Ethan Reisboard discovered an unexpected path to recovery — hypnotherapy. In this episode of Beyond the Pain, Ethan shares how he went from chronic pain and frustration to complete healing by working with the subconscious mind. We explore how hypnotherapy helps reprogram pain resp…

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Making It Up with Scott Graham, author of Grand Canyon Sacrifice 50:24

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“Don’t be afraid of the fact that pretty much every first draft is a failure. Just get the thing out.” —Scott Graham Scott Graham is the author of the National Park Mystery Series, which includes nine books and counting. In addition to his mysteries, Scott is the author of five nonfiction books, including Extreme Kids, winner of the National Outdoo…

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Pain Relief Through Cold Therapy: The Healing Power of Cold Plunging with Kris Rice 1:09:44

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In this episode, Leigh Brandon speaks with Kris Rice, founder of ChillPod, about the surprising power of cold therapy to transform both body and mind. Kris takes us through her journey from avoiding cold water to embracing it as a daily tool for recovery, resilience, and emotional balance. Together they explore: The science of cold exposure and its…

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Ep 97: You You're Husband and his Mother - Dr. TracyD 47:15

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Book: https://www.drtracyd.com/you-your-husband-and-his-mother Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drtracyd/ Zach and Dr. TracyD explore the intricate dynamics between mothers-in-law and daughters-in-law, emphasizing the importance of understanding family roles, setting boundaries, and effective communication. Dr. Dalgleish shares insights from he…

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Super Mario Bros: Koji Kondo's 8-Bit Masterpiece [Twenty Thousand Hertz] 33:03

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This episode of Twenty Thousand Hertz originally ran in August 2025. Kirk's 2020 episode of Strong Songs about the music of Super Mario TWENTY THOUSAND HERTZ SHOW NOTES: This episode was written & produced by Casey Emmerling. From the springy jump sound to the iconic Overworld Theme, the sound of Super Mario Bros. is instantly recognizable. With ju…

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Making It Up with Andrea Bartz, author of The Last Ferry Out 48:34

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“Nothing guarantees anything. A breakout book doesn’t mean your next one won’t flop—and that’s just the reality.”—Andrea Bartz Andrea Bartz is a reporter, consultant, and New York Times bestselling author. Her third novel, WE WERE NEVER HERE, was a Reese’s Book Club pick and an instant New York Times bestseller; it was optioned by Berlanti Producti…

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UBMC 233: ARMY OF DARKNESS (LIVE FROM ROCHESTER, NY) 30:49

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Hail to the king, baby! In this week’s very special episode, Lor and Leigh join you live from The Little Theatre in Rochester, New York for a deep dive on 1992’s Army of Darkness and the Danse Macabre, a medieval artistic concept that reminds us all of the universality of death. Thank you to everyone at The Little for helping UBMC feel right at hom…

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Healing Pain with Breathwork and Fascia with Brooke McPoyle 1:46:46

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Former collegiate golfer and musician Brooke McPoyle joins me to share her journey from living in pain to helping others heal through breathwork and fascia. We dive into the powerful link between breath and brain function, the role of fascia in pain and recovery, and why stress and emotions can keep you stuck in pain. Brooke also introduces her fas…

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Making It Up with Lindy Ryan, author of Dollface 42:11

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“I always say that both horror and romance are genres of hope.” —Lindy Ryan Lindy Ryan is an award-winning author, anthologist, and short-film director whose books and anthologies have received starred reviews from Publishers Weekly, Booklist and Library Journal. She was named a Publishers Weekly Star Watch Honoree in 2020, and in 2022, she was nam…

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UBMC 232: EVIL DEAD (1981) & EVIL DEAD 2 (1987) 1:40:15

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Since we're cracking open the doors to our first-ever live show watching Army of Darkness, we thought it was time for a refresher. In place of the usual magic lessons, Leigh and Lori walk through the bloody and bizarre plots of The Evil Dead (1981) and Evil Dead 2 (1987). Join in as we celebrate the legacy of Ash Williams, get a little handsy, and …

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Escaping the Hamster Wheel: Mind–Body Solutions for Pain with Rob Brinded 1:27:36

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This week on Beyond The Pain, I’m joined by Rob Brinded, a movement specialist and coach who has dedicated his career to helping people overcome pain and performance challenges. Rob introduces the concept of the “hamster wheel” — those repetitive cycles of thought and behavior that can keep us trapped in suffering. We dive into the connection betwe…

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Our Favorite TV Themes, with Leigh Sales 1:18:05

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It's fun to talk about TV theme songs, so that's what Kirk and special guest Leigh Sales did. Does this episode need any more introduction than that? Probably not. Check out Leigh's wonderful podcast Chat 10 Looks 3 A YouTube Playlist of many of the themes discussed (and some they didn't get to) DISCUSSED/REFERENCED: The Office Theme - “Handbags an…

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Cold Atmospheric Plasma Technology for Pain Relief & Healing | Helen Hindley Interview 1:08:28

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In this episode of Beyond the Pain, Leigh Brandon sits down with Helen Hindley, who shares her remarkable journey from the world of finance into nutrition and cutting-edge Cold Atmospheric Plasma technology. Helen introduces the Human Regenerator, a pioneering device designed to enhance the body’s natural healing processes. She explains how it work…

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UBMC 231: LILY DALE '25 RECAP 2:06:18

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Surprised to see us? Things may have seemed a bit quiet, but we’ve been BUSY behind the scenes. Listen as we recap Lily Dale ‘25, get a little bit emotional, and yap like we never left. We’re glad to be back, friends. COME SEE OUR VERY FIRST LIVE SHOW AT THE LITTLE IN ROCHESTER, NEW YORK! LINKS: WEBSITE PATREON UBMC IG LEIGH’S IG LORI’S IG THE RIGH…

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Making It Up with Jeffrey Konvitz, author of The Circus of Satan 43:24

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"The only way your journey ends is if you stop trying—and I wasn’t done." —Jeffrey Konvitz Jeffrey Konvitz is the author of the New York Times bestseller The Sentinel. He also wrote its bestselling sequel, The Guardian, and a third bestselling novel Monster: A Tale of Loch Ness. Konvitz is an entertainment attorney, screenwriter and producer. In th…

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From Root Cause to Relief: A Holistic Approach to Pain with Jason Gilbert 1:08:25

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Making It Up with Michelle Jabès Corpora, author of His Face is the Sun 55:38

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It is the 200th episode of Making It Up! “Every huge risk I’ve ever taken has led to another step toward what I always wanted to do with my life.” – Michelle Jabès Corpora Michelle Jabès Corpora received her Bachelor's Degree in English and Theatre from UMBC, then went on to earn a Master's degree in Children's Literature from Hollins University. S…

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Strong TV Songs: HBO Edition [Recast] 1:08:44

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Originally Aired October 20, 2020 The Wildlings are south of the wall, the robots are rising up, Seventh Kavalry's on the move, and two percent of the world's population has vanished. Time for another edition of Strong TV Songs! This time around the focus is on HBO, a network that has defined much of the broader TV landscape over the past couple of…

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Ep 96: Corinne Low - Women Having it all? 32:10

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https://www.corinnelow.com/book In this conversation, Zach and Corinne delve into the complexities of invisible labor, emotional literacy, and the evolving roles of men and women in domestic settings. They discuss the unrealistic expectations surrounding 'having it all,' the importance of recognizing cognitive and emotional labor, and the need for …

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Concussions, Headaches & Brain Recovery – How Neuroplasticity Heals Chronic Pain with Nate Pope 1:02:57

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Concussion headaches and lingering pain don’t have to be a life sentence. In this episode, neurological occupational therapist Nate Pope reveals how individualized therapy, neuroplasticity, and holistic rehab at NCX Brain Recovery are helping patients overcome post-concussion syndrome and reclaim their lives. You can find Nate @: https://www.ncxbra…

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Making It Up with Joe Hart, author of Wyndclyffe 46:52

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“The best form of marketing is just producing more work—because you never know when the next idea will catch fire.” —Joe Hart Joe Hart is the Edgar Award-winning and Wall Street Journal-bestselling author of seventeen novels, dozens of short stories, and several novellas. His work has been translated into eight languages and optioned for film. His …

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Iron Overload, Copper Deficiency & Chronic Pain: Morley Robbins Explains the Hidden Connection 1:28:47

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What if the root of your chronic pain and fatigue isn’t a structural issue or a lack of iron—but actually too much of it? In this eye-opening episode, Morley Robbins reveals why iron overload and low copper are at the heart of modern chronic health conditions, including persistent pain. We dive into why standard blood tests often miss the real stor…

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Making It Up with Dwayne Goetzel 58:49

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“The desire was always there, but the drive wasn’t. I allowed other things to interfere instead of saying, ‘This is something you really want to do.’" —Dwayne Goetzel Dwayne Goetzel is a lawyer who specializes in trademarks, domain names, copyrights, licensing, and litigation relating to those fields. He is an attorney, father, writer, and someone …

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A Bob Dylan Beginner's Guide, with Matt Sitman and Sam Adler-Bell 1:54:17

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With so many dozens of albums over so many wildly disparate eras, it can take a lifetime to truly get your arms around Bob Dylan. On this episode, Kirk is joined by two guests who have spent their lifetimes doing exactly that. Matt Sitman and Sam Adler-Bell, in addition to co-hosting the terrific political history podcast Know Your Enemy, are both …

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Neural Retraining: A New Path Out of Pain with Lori Clemmons 1:01:59

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In this episode, Lori Clemmons shares her journey from chronic illness to becoming a life coach specializing in helping others with chronic pain. She discusses the impact of chronic pain on daily life, the importance of understanding the limbic system, and how self-compassion plays a crucial role in healing. Lori emphasizes the significance of find…

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Making It Up with Leigh Dunlap, author of Bless Your Heart 41:57

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“It was the craziest overnight five-year success story ever.” —Leigh Dunlap Leigh Dunlap went to film school at the University of Southern California to study screenwriting, which led her to a job selling socks at Fred Segal and eventually to an assistant’s desk at a Hollywood talent agency. That’s where she really learned how to write—while readin…

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Breaking Free from Chronic Pain: A Rockstar’s Journey to Real Healing with Jam Alker 1:07:11

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In this episode of Beyond the Pain, Jam Alker shares his powerful journey from the rock star lifestyle to wellness advocate. He opens up about living with chronic pain, navigating a broken medical system, and the power of self-advocacy. Jam reveals how diet, exercise, sleep, and holistic practices transformed his health, and offers hope, discipline…

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Singing and Songwriting, with The Wailin' Jennys 1:11:03

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The Wailin' Jennys have been singing together for more than two decades - recording albums, touring the world, and filling venues large and small. After all these years, the trio—Ruth Moody, Heather Masse, and Nicky Mehta—have reached both a plateau and an inflection point. What's it like for a musical group that's been together for that long; for …

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Making It Up with Lori Roy, author of The Final Episode 48:36

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“I don’t know what it’s about until it’s done—and sometimes it’s on a shelf before I realize what certain things mean.” – Lori Roy Lori Roy’s debut novel, Bent Road, was awarded the Edgar Allan Poe Award for Best First Novel by an American Author. Her work has been twice named a New York Times Notable Crime Book. Until She Comes Home was a New York…

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Understanding Chronic Pelvic Pain: Tanya Borowski on Endometriosis 1:19:51

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In this episode, I speak with Tanya Borowski and we delve into the complexities of women's health, focusing on chronic pelvic pain and endometriosis. In this episode, you’ll discover insights into integrative approaches, the role of environmental factors, and the importance of understanding hormonal health. This episode is a must-listen for anyone …

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Making It Up with Robert Bailey, author of The Boomerang 42:39

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Robert Bailey is the Wall Street Journal bestselling author of THE BOOMERANG, the Jason Rich series, the McMurtrie and Drake legal thrillers, the Bocephus Haynes series, and the inspirational novel, THE GOLFER’S CAROL. Robert’s novels draw inspiration from his decades as a civil defense trial lawyer in his hometown of Huntsville, Alabama. Robert ob…

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Ep 95: Clare Brown talks reversed micro-agressions and sarcasm 54:02

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Get her fantastic audiobook that I loved!!: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/New-Nigeria-County/Clare-Brown/9781797170626 In this engaging conversation, Zach Watson and Clare discuss the intersection of language, microaggressions, and comedy. Clare shares her insights on how language shapes societal norms and the importance of addressing micr…

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Pain Isn’t the Problem—It’s the Signal: Why I Went All-In on Chronic Pain 1:59:21

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In this very first episode of Beyond The Pain, I flip the script and share my story through the lens of a powerful conversation with Stretch Rainer on his Midlife Mavericks podcast. Together, we explore the real reason I’ve rebranded the podcast and why chronic pain deserves to take centre stage. I open up about my personal journey from partying in…

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Talkin' Tower of Power, with Adam Maness and Peter Martin [You'll Hear It] 1:12:30

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Back in May, Kirk joined pianists Adam Maness and Peter Martin of the You'll Hear It podcast to talk about what makes Tower of Power great. It was a very fun conversation, so he asked if he could run their episode in the Strong Songs feed. And here we are! Listen to You'll Hear It anywhere you find podcasts, and find both Adam and Peter (and many o…

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Making It Up with Mailan Doquang, author of Blood Rubies 58:12

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“There are no shortcuts, right? It doesn't matter what you're writing—you just have to do it.” — Mailan Doquang Mailan Doquang is an architectural historian turned thriller writer. Mailan received her Ph.D. from the Institute of Fine Arts, New York University. She has published extensively on the art and architecture of medieval France, in addition…

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170 - Rethinking Germ Theory, Parasites, Fungus & the Microbiome with Daniel Roytas 2:24:26

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In this thought-provoking episode of The Radical Health Rebel Podcast, I welcome back author and health researcher Daniel Roytas for a deep dive into some of the most foundational – and controversial – beliefs in modern health. We explore the origins and flaws of germ theory, the misunderstood roles of mold, fungus, and parasites, and why the terra…

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Making It Up with Kaira Rouda, author of We Were Never Friends 43:59

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"The only way your journey in publishing ends is if you stop trying." – Kaira Rouda Kaira Rouda is a USA TODAY, Amazon #1 and international bestselling author. She has worked in marketing, real estate, and other career fields, including being the society columnist for the Columbus Dispatch for ten years. Kaira’s work has been translated into more t…

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169 - Healing Sjogren's Disease: Divya's Journey with Divya Dhawan 59:07

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In this episode of the Radical Health Rebel podcast, Divya Dhawan shares her personal journey with Sjogren's disease and how it led her to become a functional health practitioner. She discusses the importance of gut health, the role of diet and lifestyle in managing autoimmune conditions, and the need for movement in maintaining joint health. Divya…

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A Song For My Father 39:33

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THE APOCALYPSE WERE: Tony Capuano - Guitar, Lead Vocals John Shorb - Alto Sax Gene Meros - Tenor Sax Greg Novik - Bass, Backing Vocals (guitar on Stormy Monday) Oggie Hamilton - Drums, Backing Vocals Featuring The Apocalypse playing: “Good Good Lovin’” and “Try Me” by James Brown “Hi-Heel Sneakers" by Tommy Tucker “The Shadow of Your Smile” by Mand…

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168 - The Mind-Body Connection in Pain Management with Ben O'Loghlin 1:09:15

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In this episode of the Radical Health Rebel podcast, Leigh Brandon interviews Ben O'Loghlin, an expert in the Alexander Technique. They discuss Ben's personal journey with chronic pain and how he discovered the Alexander Technique as a solution. The conversation delves into the role of the brain in muscle tension, the importance of active engagemen…

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Making It Up with Laura Resau, author of The Alchemy of Flowers 46:42

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"I just don’t buy into the whole failure thing—you either succeed or you learn." – Laura Resau Laura Resau is the author of The Alchemy of Flowers, her debut novel for adults, and eleven acclaimed books for young people. Her books have won five Colorado Book Awards and spots on “best-of” booklists from Oprah, the American Library Association, and m…

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167 - From Eczema to Empowerment: Leeza's Holistic Journey with Leeza Tekeste 1:13:17

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In this conversation, Leigh Brandon and Leeza discuss Leeza's journey into holistic health, her personal experiences with eczema, and the importance of diet, detoxification, and emotional well-being in skin health. They explore the role of boundaries in health, the challenges of navigating the medical system, and the significance of patience and pe…

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Making It Up with Bryan Gruley, author of Bitterfrost 48:29

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“I got 26 rejections, and I’d kind of given up. Then Simon & Schuster gave me a three-book deal. And I thought, oh, this is awesome—then, oh shit, I have to write the other two.” – Bryan Gruley Bryan Gruley is the award-winning, critically acclaimed author of the forthcoming thriller BITTERFROST. Gruley is also the author of the Starvation Lake tri…

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166 - What Your Fascia Is Trying to Tell You About Pain with Margarita Bennett 1:40:24

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In this episode of the Radical Health Rebel podcast, I interview Margarita Bennett, a medical intuitive and craniosacral therapist. We discuss Margarita's extensive journey in health and wellness, focusing on the importance of fascia, the psoas muscle, and the biofield in relation to emotional and physical health. The conversation delves into how u…

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Ep 94: Moms letting go of guilt | No Guilt Mom - Joann Crohn 29:59

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No Guilt Mom - IG - https://www.instagram.com/noguiltmom/ In this episode, Zachary Watson engages in a deep conversation with JoAnn Crohn, the founder of No Guilt Mom, about the challenges of motherhood, particularly the pervasive issue of mom guilt. They explore the origins of this guilt, the importance of self-care, and the need for emotional reg…

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Making It Up with Ellen Birkett Morris, author of Beware the Tall Grass 40:39

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“Writing it was like chipping away at a mountain with a pair of nail scissors.” —Ellen Birkett Morris Ellen Birkett Morris is the author of Beware the Tall Grass, winner of the Donald L. Jordan Award for Literary Excellence. She is also the author of Lost Girls: Short Stories, winner of the Pencraft Award and finalist for the Clara Johnson, IAN and…

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165 - Escape the Aisles, Heal Your Gut: The Homesteading Solution with Elizabeth Bruckner 1:22:10

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In this episode of the Radical Health Rebel podcast, Leigh Brandon interviews Elizabeth Bruckner, an acupuncturist and author, who shares her journey into acupuncture and Chinese medicine, her experiences with chronic illness, and the importance of gut health. They discuss the concept of homesteading as a modern approach to self-sufficiency and emp…