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Road to the Trials

Peter Bromka, Lindsey Hein, and Matt Chittim

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Co-hosts Matt Chittim, Lindsey Hein, and Peter Bromka interview every 2028 Olympic Marathon Trials Qualifier along with a wide-ranging group of industry professionals in preparation for the 2028 Olympics in Los Angeles.
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A running podcast dedicated to conversation, commentary, and fun. Our team has someone for everything, from pros to amateurs, track nerds to ultra athletes, shoe experts, and coaches. We love discussing all-things running with enough hilarious tangents to keep you on your toes. Like being on your favorite group run with friends. The Relay team of contributors includes Kofuzi, Stefanie Flippin, Lindsey Hein, Laura Thweatt, Tommie Runz, Peter Bromka, Marcus Brown, and Matt Chittim.
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Business & Sports Discourse

Matt Chittim and Jason Macaluso

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Join hosts Matt Chittim and Jason Macaluso as they bring you up to speed on the leading stories at the intersection of business and endurance sports. Matt and Jason deliver breaking news, as well as deep dives and guest interviews on the topics that are impacting the endurance sports world. So pour yourself a cup of coffee and plug into the BSD.
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Today on group chat, we have Matt Chittim, Peter Bromka, and Kofuzi. Episode Rundown: Valencia Marathon recap CIM results and Olympic Trials qualifiers TRE (The Running Event) takeaways BU indoor 5K performances NXN and U.S. cross country weekend Western States and HardRock lotteries International racing travel challenges Shoe industry trends and T…
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On this episode of Road to the Trials, Peter Bromka and Matt Chittim sit down with the fourth and fifth place finishers from the Indy Monumental Marathon, teammates and training partners Gabby Hentemann and Alyssa McElheny of Gazelle Elite. They broke the tape just seconds apart in Indianapolis, but arrived there through very different paths. Gabby…
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Kristin Johnson returns to the show for the second time in 2025 after ripping off another seven minute PR with a 2:53 at the Indy Monumental Marathon. Kristin talks about how she's gone from 3:59 to 2:53 in her favorite distance, the changes that were required, and how she doubled-down on what worked. Sponsors ASICS - Explore the METASPEED Edge and…
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Matt Chittim and co-host Peter Bromka sit down with marathoner and coach Andrew Bowman, a new dad who has already punched his ticket to the 2028 Trials. Andrew talks about qualifying again this fall after a tough weather day at Detroit Free Press, turning around quickly to race Indy Monumental, and how he and his wife, marathon standout Sydney Devo…
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Lindsey Hein, Matt Chittim, and Peter Bromka sit down for a California International Marathon preview as CIM hosts the USATF Marathon Championships. They break down the top storylines on the men’s and women’s sides, talk about who might contend for the win, who is chasing OTQs, and what to expect from the Road to the Trials live shows at the expo. …
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Lindsey Hein, Matt Chittim, and Peter Bromka sit down for a California International Marathon (CIM) preview as CIM hosts the USATF Marathon Championships. They break down the top storylines on the men’s and women’s sides, talk about who might contend for the win, who is chasing OTQs, and what to expect from the Road to the Trials live shows at the …
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In this episode, Lindsey Hein and Peter Bromka catch up with newly qualified athlete Lucy Dobbs, who ran a standout 2:32 at the CNO Financial Indianapolis Monumental Marathon, taking second place and earning a four-minute personal best. Lucy shares how she approached race day in Indianapolis, what clicked for her in training, and why Monumental has…
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This week on group chat, we have Erika Kemp, Kofuzi, and Peter Bromka. Episode Rundown: Thanksgiving as the biggest running day and different takes on turkey trots Kofuzi’s Valencia Marathon taper and using a turkey trot as a workout NCAA cross country championships, NC State’s women, and big individual performances What makes great team culture in…
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Road to the Trials brings on marathon workhorse Joe Whelan, also known on this episode as “The Marathon Wolverine.” Joe digs into what it looks like to be incredibly durable in the marathon, as Joe has already raced Berlin, Boston, Grandma’s, Austin, and Indianapolis Monumental in 2025, with California International Marathon circled as his true A-r…
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In this episode of the Rambling Runner podcast, I continue my "How Can I Run Like I Used To?" mini-series. When we restart our running journey we are usually filled with excitement and vigor. That is wonderful! However, we need to balance those emotions with a plan of attack that allows us to build a foundation, identify problem areas we can addres…
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In this special Road to the Trials episode, Peter Bromka and Matt Chittim team up with Brendan Gregg, the Course Director of the California International Marathon and a former CIM champion, for the ultimate 2025 race preview. Brendan brings insider knowledge from both sides of the barriers: years of experience designing and refining the course, and…
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Today on group chat, we have Lindsey Hein, Kofuzi, and Peter Bromka. Topics Discussed: Kofuzi’s Valencia build and recent high-mileage weeks Summer marathon training struggles and preferring winter/spring races Ego, round-number mileage, and listening to an aging body Redefining success when PRs may be behind you Family cost of marathon training an…
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Kristin Dailey joins hosts Lindsey Hein and Peter Bromka to share her late-blooming rise in the marathon. After years of running for fitness, a stranger encouraged her to try 26.2. She ran her first marathon at the age of 40 in 3:07, then teamed up with Mary Johnson’s Lift Run Perform team to break three hours in Indianapolis. Now training with DW …
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In this episode of the Rambling Runner podcast, I delve into the challenges and mindset required to regain peak fitness after a significant time away from running. I emphasize the importance of a long-term commitment, adopting a beginner's mindset, and the need for self-compassion and realistic goal setting. I share personal insights and strategies…
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Peter Bromka sits down with Makenna Myler, one of the most exciting ascending marathoners in the U.S. right now. Makenna finished 7th at the 2024 Olympic Marathon Trials, proving she can show up on championship day, and she joins the show fresh off her run in Chicago — a performance she calls “a little disappointing,” but only because her trajector…
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Today on the group chat, we have Lindsey Hein, Kofuzi, and Erika Kemp talking about their weekends in running! -Indy Monumental weekend recap and Lindsey's sold-out after-party -Kofuzi’s first true XC 8K with creek crossings in the snow -Erika’s B.A.A. Half takeaways and “thread the needle” race plan -Why the B.A.A. Half feels harder than Boston an…
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In this episode, I sit down with Rachel Schilkowsky to dive into her recent win at the Hartford Marathon, her impressive early morning training schedule, and the challenges she's faced. We discuss her performance at Hartford, how/why a PR can be gratifying yet still feel disappointing, and the crucial role of fueling during races. Rachel opens up a…
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Peter Bromka and Lindsey Hein sit down with Alana Levy, who ran 2:36:53 at the Chicago Marathon and punched her ticket to the 2028 Olympic Trials. Alana’s progression over the past few years has been remarkable: she broke three hours, then 2:50, and now has taken another eight minutes off her time to reach a new level. She reflects on attending the…
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In this episode, I had the pleasure of speaking with Heidi Peoples, a remarkable runner and multiple time Olympic Trials qualifier who recently finished first in her 45-49 age group at the Chicago Marathon. We delved into her journey from being a high school softball player to a marathon runner, her experiences balancing life as a teacher and a mot…
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Lindsey Hein and Matt Chittim chat with Maria Lindberg, the first masters finisher at the 2025 Chicago Marathon, where she ran 2:34 at age 42. A former high school and college All-American, Maria has now completed 21 marathons and is running some of her fastest times ever. She explains how shifting to “intuitive” training without a coach and stacki…
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On this week's group chat, we have Erika Kemp, Lindsey Hein, and Peter Bromka. Episode Rundown: -NYC Marathon week plans (travel, Halloween, where to cheer)' -Course talk: Fifth Ave vs Queensboro + Boston comparisons -Elite preview: American women & major debuts -Men’s field + who to watch -Tommie Runz's Javelina 100 chaos -Ruth Chepng'etich ruling…
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Ryan Ford joins Road to the Trials to talk about his breakout year and his transition to the ON Athletics Club (OAC) in Boulder. After a standout performance at the 2024 Boston Marathon—running 2:08:00 and firmly establishing himself as one of America’s top marathoners—Ryan has quickly become a name to know in U.S. distance running. He is now comin…
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Today on group chat, we have Tommie Runz, Peter Bromka, and Erika Kemp. Episode Rundown: Tommie’s leap from The Speed Project (LA → Vegas) to saying yes to Javelina 100—and how trail culture replaced marathon pressure. Tommie's loop plan, pacing, heat management, and staying “locked in.” Crew strategy and gear: the “sundress” shirt, hydration vest,…
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In this episode, I have the pleasure of speaking with Ashley Mateo about her new venture, RUNHER Magazine. We delve into the inspiration behind the magazine, the challenges of launching a print publication in a digital age, and the importance of storytelling in women's running. Ashley shares her journey from frustration with the male-dominated medi…
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Will Norris joins Road to the Trials after winning the Twin Cities Marathon and punching his ticket to his third U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials. In this conversation with hosts Peter Bromka and Lindsey Hein, Will shares what it felt like to finally win a race he’s chased for years, what he’s learned through the ups and downs of marathon training, and…
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Gabi Rooker joins Lindsey Hein and Matt Chittim fresh off her ninth-place finish at the 2025 Chicago Marathon, where she was the third American woman and ran a 2:26 marathon to secure her qualifying time for the 2028 U.S. Olympic Trials. Gabi’s rise in the sport has been nothing short of incredible. She ran her first marathon in 2021, clocking 2:54…
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The Relay crew is back recapping everything from the 2024 Chicago Marathon weekend — from Conner Mantz’s near-perfect American record run to the grin heard ‘round the world from Jacob Kiplimo. The crew also covers: What it’s like spectating when your videos look like found-footage horror films The announcer pronunciation debacles (Tosh vs. Tosh!) M…
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In this episode, I sit down with Lauren Floris, head coach at Pepperdine University, to explore her journey in balancing coaching, family, and personal running goals. Lauren shares her ambitions to set personal records from the mile to the marathon and discusses the challenges and strategies involved in training, fueling, and maintaining motivation…
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Jane Bareikis joins Road to the Trials fresh off her win at the Twin Cities Marathon, becoming the first female qualifier of this Olympic Trials window. A 2:29 marathoner (Berlin 2023), Jane is a mother and coached by her husband. She grew up in Kenya and didn’t start running until 2017, after having her son. Jane competed in her first U.S. Olympic…
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Hosts Lindsey Hein and Peter Bromka welcome Nick Hauger—pro marathoner, coach, and newly minted 2028 U.S. Olympic Trials qualifier—fresh off his 2:11:48 at the Berlin Marathon, good for 15th overall. Hauger explains why the result is both “objectively his best marathon” and a touch bittersweet: he trained with a clear eye on 2:09, adjusted on race …
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In this episode, I dive into the importance of strength training for runners with Brodie Sharpe. We explore how strength training can enhance running performance and discuss the balance between injury prevention and performance improvement. Brodie shares insights from research and personal experience, emphasizing the role of strength training in im…
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This week on group chat, we have Lindsey Hein, Matt Chittim, and Peter Bromka. Episode Rundown: Boulderthon recap Travel-to-race vs PR-chasing mindset Boston Marathon cutoff talk and tightening standards Chicago Marathon expo plans and live show plug Trail and Ultra World Championships VKs, 200-mile races, and why they’re surprisingly watchable Roa…
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As Relay's first-ever Team USA competitor, we couldn't resist the chance to dive deep with Erika into the whole experience, including the heat, humidity, ice hats, and pacing strategies. Sunglasses, after parties, and all things Tokyo. Running in the heat is TOUGH! But this was a fun one. If we missed anything leave a question in the comments and w…
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In this episode, hosts Matt Chittim, Peter Bromka, and Lindsey Hein sit down with legendary coach James McKirdy, the founder of McKirdy Trained. Over the past decade, McKirdy has built one of the most recognizable and influential coaching groups in the U.S., guiding dozens of athletes to Olympic Trials Qualifiers and shaping the way amateur runners…
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This week on group chat, we have Tommie, Kofuzi, Peter, Erika, and Marcus. Episode Rundown: The extreme Tokyo heat and humidity and how it affected athletes and fans Marathon experiences, aid station violations, and Susanna Sullivan’s race Standout events: men’s and women’s steeplechase, women’s 800m, men’s 1500m, men’s 400 hurdles Mondo Duplantis …
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Charlie Watson shares her exhilarating experience at the Sydney Marathon, highlighting her unique racing strategy that led to a surprisingly fast finish. She discusses the importance of mindset, strength training, and nutrition in her preparation, and how letting go of expectations allowed her to enjoy the race and perform beyond her goals. Charlie…
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In this motivating conversation, Molly Huddle shares how she cultivated a racing mindset that helped her become one of the fiercest racers, and best runners, of her generation. Sponsors ASICS - Check-out the new METASPEED Edge and Sky Tokyo along with the newly released Megablast and Sonicblast at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.asics.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠…
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Today on group chat, we have Lindsey Hein and Peter Bromka. Episode Rundown: Erika Kemp in Tokyo — Lindsey and Peter hyping up Erika’s marathon and her confidence, calling her a “crusher” and “pleasant surprise” on the show. Brooks’ identity shift — the back-and-forth about Brooks trying to go from “run happy” to “we’re serious now,” with the high …
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On this episode of Road to the Trials, Olympian Dakotah Popehn shares her journey from Division II walk-on to placing third at the 2024 Olympic Trials and finishing 12th in Paris. She talks about the belief and consistency that carried her rise, the heat prep that made Orlando feel almost routine, and the big goals she’s chasing next—including a PR…
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In this episode, I had the incredible opportunity to sit down with one of my running heroes, Hillary Allen. Her story is one of resilience, determination, and the power of the human spirit. From a life-threatening fall to becoming a world-class athlete again and qualifying for the World Championships, Hillary's journey is nothing short of inspiring…
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Road to the Trials welcomes Olympian Jared Ward, fresh off a year in the UK completing an MBA, for a focused conversation on sustainable high-performance training and mindset. Jared explains how he’s reframed workouts as stimulus for long-term adaptation, what he learned from the 2016 Trials and sixth place in Rio, and why he’s still chasing meanin…
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Join us as we dive into the inspiring journey of Theresa Hailey, a dedicated marathoner who has qualified for the Olympic Trials twice. In this episode, Theresa shares her experiences overcoming injuries, her mental strategies for racing, and her goals for the future. Discover how she balances her passion for running with her new role as a foster p…
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Welcome to Season Four of Road to the Trials! This will be the most epic season yet as we look to interview every qualifier to the 2028 Olympic Marathon Trials in Los Angeles as well as plenty of industry professionals along the way. Our expanded goal is matched by our expanding team! We now have three co-hosts - Matt Chittim, Lindsey Hein, and Pet…
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