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In this episode of 25minutes, cybersecurity expert John returns to discuss the lessons he has learned over two decades in IT and OT security, focusing on the realities of risk management, leadership and the evolving threat landscape. We explore why common sense in security is often an illusion, what Zero Trust really means beyond the buzzword and how the OT security landscape has shifted with emerging threats. John shares insights on DeepSeek and AI-driven threat detection, the persistent challenges in bridging IT and OT security and why businesses must rethink their approach to cybersecurity as a strategic advantage rather than a compliance requirement. This conversation offers valuable perspectives on how to future-proof security strategies, mitigate risks before they escalate and ensure resilience in an increasingly complex digital world.

Our Guest:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sjkingsley/

https://industrialcyber.co/features/industrial-cybersecurity-coalitions-rise-to-meet-growing-ot-ics-cyber-threats-build-awareness-take-action/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp6F90MH48U

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/ot-cybersecurity-resources-kickstart-your-learning-today-kingsley/

25 Minutes Podcast

Hostey by: Eliel Mulumba

Audio editing & mastering: Michael Lauderez

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Chapters

1. 6 - John Kingsley: Why common sense isn’t common – Lessons-learned, Zero Trust, DeepSeek & the future of OT Security (00:00:00)

2. Recap of our last session with John (00:00:03)

3. John intro and background (00:02:01)

4. Key lessons learned in cybersecurity (00:04:43)

5. Realizations and career reflections (00:13:43)

6. Zero trust architecture in OT security (00:16:15)

7. DeepSeek - adapting to rapid technological changes (00:19:45)

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