Hg's Martina Sanow - unlocking opportunities to invest in Europe's largest portfolio of software and services businesses
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Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.
Today’s episode is with someone who has successfully built a wealth solutions business tailored to her firm’s unique strengths, expertise, and investment track record.
Martina Sanow is a Partner and Head of Hg Wealth, where she is focused on building the firm’s wealth solutions offering built out of the $85B AUM firm, Hg, that invests in enterprise software.
Hg, one of the top 10 largest PE firms globally based on the PEI 300 ranking, has built an impressive investment engine focused mission-critical enterprise software companies. The firm has built a portfolio that is a “transatlantic ecosystem of software and services businesses” — representing over $180B in collective enterprise value across its 55 portfolio companies.
Martina has been at the firm for almost 16 years. She has been an integral part of building the firm into what it is today, helping Hg grow from $2B in AUM to $85B in AUM, previously as Deputy COO and now building the Hg Wealth business. Hg’s first wealth offering, Fusion, its flagship evergreen fund that provides access to non-US investors to Hg’s private equity funds and co-investment opportunities, has exceeded $1B in NAV just 12 months after its launch.
Martina is thoughtful, strategic, and long-term oriented when it comes to building a solution that amplifies Hg’s strengths and resonates with the wealth channel.
We had a fascinating discussion about how a scaled specialist like Hg can stand out in the wealth channel, unpacking the essence of who Hg is as a firm and how they’ve expressed who they are as they’ve built their wealth business.
We covered:
- Hg’s evolution as a firm.
- Why Hg focuses on mission-critical enterprise software companies and why it’s a compelling investment thesis.
- Building a wealth business that fits the mission, ethos, and strategy of the firm.
- Understanding the complexity of evergreen funds.
- How Martina and team think about managing dealflow and investor demand in their Fusion fund.
- Learnings applied from HgTrust, the publicly listed UK investment trust, to figuring out how to educate and build brand in the wealth channel.
- Why does ownership structure matter when it comes to building a wealth business? How being privately owned informs how Hg builds their wealth business.
- Why Europe, why now?
Thanks Martina for coming on the show to share your wisdom and expertise at the intersection of enterprise software, private equity, and private wealth.
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Show Notes
00:00 Introduction and Message from Ultimus, our Sponsor
01:55 Welcome to the Podcast
01:58 Introducing Martina Sanow
04:36 Martina's Background and Experience
05:10 Hg's Specialization in Software
05:57 Building a Team and Culture
06:54 Importance of Cognitive Diversity
07:26 Building a Diverse Team
09:28 Innovating in Wealth Business
10:14 Hg's Strategic Mindset
11:51 Hg's Entrepreneurial Journey
12:00 Maintaining Entrepreneurial Culture
13:10 Specialization in B2B Software
14:47 Focus on DPI and Cash Back
16:17 Criteria for A-Quality Businesses
16:58 Investing in Mission Critical Software
18:11 Visma Case Study
19:23 Challenges and Opportunities in Europe
33:13 Evergreen Structures: Impact on Investment Teams
33:44 Balancing Capital Raising and Deal Flow
34:13 Investment Strategies and Allocation
34:54 Managing Subscriptions and Demand
35:53 Balancing Wealth and Institutional Demand
36:06 Privately Owned Firm Benefits
36:37 Realization Committee and Evergreen Structures
37:52 Long-Term Company Partnerships
39:11 Liquidity Management Challenges
39:55 Investor Strategies for Evergreen Funds
41:40 Institutional Adoption of Evergreen Funds
42:48 Evolution of Institutional Mindset
43:26 Retail vs. Wealth Investors
44:01 Listed Trust and Wealth Business Insights
45:54 Building the Wealth Business
47:29 Strategic Importance of Wealth Capital
48:54 Innovation in Wealth Management
49:28 Partnerships and Holistic Solutions
50:58 Future of Wealth Management Products
52:44 Brand Building and Education
55:00 Software as a Core Investment
56:19 Community and Founder Investments
59:28 Value Creation and Network Benefits
01:00:15 Portfolio Synergies and Acquisitions
01:01:36 Concluding Thoughts and Favorite Investments
Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.
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