Episode Summary:

In this episode of The Alternative Exit, I’m joined by Daniel Goldstein an experienced executive, former CEO of Foliance, and a dedicated advocate for employee ownership. With a career spanning corporate governance, ESOP advocacy, and organizational transformation, Daniel brings a deeply thoughtful and practical lens to how businesses can embrace employee ownership and thrive.

We dive into what happens after the ownership transition — how to ensure long-term sustainability, build buy-in, and drive culture within employee-owned companies. From turning a balance sheet crisis into a holding company opportunity, to creating tangible tools like a "license to act" card that foster true ownership mindset, Daniel shares a masterclass in smart leadership, accountability, and systems that scale.

Key Takeaways:

• The biggest fear in employee ownership isn’t the model — it’s employees undervaluing what they have
• Why shared services and ESOP holding companies simplify transition and scale
• The difference between ownership and entitlement (and how education bridges the gap)
• Why culture change starts with leadership modeling, not employee handbooks
• The “80,000 hours” mindset that makes work about more than just financial rewards
• How governance done well empowers decision-making and accountability at every level
• Why focusing on what’s working — through appreciative inquiry — is more powerful than postmortems
• What’s next in employee ownership: EOTs, sustainability modeling, and cultural storytelling

About Daniel Goldstein:

Daniel Goldstein is the former President and CEO of Foliance, a 100% employee-owned holding company based in Iowa. During his tenure, he transformed the organization through innovative acquisitions, thoughtful governance, and deep cultural investment. Today, he serves as an executive fellow at the Rutgers Institute of Employee Ownership and Profit Sharing, and continues to support the EO community as a speaker, board member, and advisor.

Connect with Daniel Goldstein:
Email: [email protected]
LinkedIn: Daniel Goldstein
Connect with Andy Farquharson:
LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/andyfarquharson/
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/andyfarq
Website - https://abettermonday.me/
Email - [email protected]