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In this brutally honest episode, Amas Tenumah sits down with Dan Mannion, CEO of Spark CX, to unpack one of the industry’s most embarrassing truths: most contact centers still have no idea why customers are contacting them.

They dive into:

  • Why decades of dashboards and speech analytics failed to deliver real insight.

  • How Spark CX is using generative AI to turn unstructured call data into actual understanding.

  • Why “automating empathy” is nonsense — and what AI can do right.

  • The hilarious (and horrifying) true stories of AI hallucinations in customer service, including one that ended with a 911 call.

  • What it really takes to build a startup from scratch in an industry addicted to inertia.

If you care about customer experience, leadership, or the future of AI in service — this one will both shock and inspire you.

🎙️ Hosted by Amas Tenumah — calling bullshit on corporate fairy tales and fighting for the humans on both sides of the headset.

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