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In For Scores, host Jon Burlingame takes listeners on a magical journey into the world of film and television composers, revealing never-before-heard special moments behind many of today's most beloved scores. This season, you'll hear personal stories from the composers of Marvel Studios Avengers and Pixar's Toy Story films, Captain Marvel, Coco, Ralph Breaks the Internet, and so much more!
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“You part the crowd like the Red Sea, don't even get me started.” This week, we're deep diving "Now That We Don't Talk" from 1989 (Taylor's Version). This vault track is lyrically dense, structurally complex, and emotionally devastating in its exploration of uncertainty, insecurity, and the relationships that leave us wanting more. We analyze biblical references, rhetorical questions, enjambment, and why this song was ultimately too insecure to make the original 1989 album. Join us as we unpack how Taylor uses poetic devices to create a haiku-like meditation on the aftermath of an intimate relationship—whether romantic, platonic, or something in between.
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Mentioned in this episode:
Wicked, the book, movie, and musical
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Episode Highlights:
[01:53] “Now That We Don’t Talk”
[05:06] “You went to a party/I heard from everybody”
[10:25] “And from the outside/ It looks like you're tryin' lives on”
[15:38] “I call my mom, she said that it was for the best”
[25:47] “Truth is I can't pretend it's platonic, it's just ended”
[37:00] “I don't have to pretend I like acid rock”
[42:48] “And the only way back to my dignity”
[49:02] The purpose of “Now That We Don’t Talk”
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