In this conversation, Kamilah Paden interviews Kem-Laurin Lubin as she discusses her book 'Design Heuristics for Emerging Technologies' and the critical importance of addressing algorithmic bias in AI systems. She emphasizes the need for ethical design practices that prioritize human dignity and representation, particularly for marginalized groups such as women. The discussion also highlights the gaps in current policies regarding data governance and the necessity for a user-centric approach in technology design.